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14. Read this (they must be a real astute bunch)

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=38934

Gaffes hamper Minuteman kickoff
By Le Templar, Tribune
TOMBSTONE - The first volunteers for the Minuteman Project arrived before 8 a.m. Friday, eager to be part of a civilian campaign seeking to discourage illegal immigration and highlight the porous nature of the U.S. border.
But they didnt get within 30 miles of Mexico, as project organizers struggled throughout the day with a rash of equipment failures and a crush of state and national media that threatened to outnumber the volunteers.

Confused and sometimes overwhelmed, leaders of the Minuteman Project provided incomplete or conflicting information to supporters and observers alike. Most volunteers left the first days briefings without a clear idea of how or where they will be assigned to watch for illegal migrants walking north.

Still, the Minuteman Project registered more than 200 volunteers in Tombstone on Friday, much higher numbers than previous attempts in Arizona to gather everyday people for a task normally associated with the U.S. Border Patrol. Several volunteers said they would be patient.
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  -Minutemen Prepare to Lay Down the Law (rally coverage) Rose Siding  Apr-02-05 09:06 AM   #0 
  - Where are the DUer supporters of the Minutemen .... ?  Trajan   Apr-02-05 09:08 AM   #1 
  - I agree with them that the pResident has failed us  ixion   Apr-02-05 09:14 AM   #3 
  - I think INS doesn't have the budget or the agents  alarimer   Apr-03-05 04:40 PM   #77 
     - Bush budget scraps 9,790 border patrol agents  Zorra   Apr-03-05 08:25 PM   #106 
  - Now if they were raiding the headquarters of wealthy agribusinesses  DBoon   Apr-02-05 09:45 AM   #13 
  - Solution to this problem:  CheshireCat   Apr-04-05 01:14 PM   #142 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-02-05 02:31 PM   #22 
  - mr triumph  cleofus1   Apr-02-05 02:39 PM   #24 
  - For Cleofus-  MrTriumph   Apr-02-05 04:39 PM   #29 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-02-05 04:41 PM   #30 
     - It was your cowchip, Tajan. You made the case...  MrTriumph   Apr-02-05 04:56 PM   #33 
  - I have yet to see the Minutemen break any law.  Walt Starr   Apr-02-05 07:01 PM   #39 
  - Lets see the papers that the indigenous people of north America...  NNN0LHI   Apr-03-05 04:18 PM   #76 
  - Anyone born in this country is automatically a citizen  Freddie Stubbs   Apr-03-05 07:00 PM   #94 
  - Was that rule around in 1492 when Columbus came to America?  NNN0LHI   Apr-03-05 07:17 PM   #96 
     - The indigenous people had no immigration laws  Freddie Stubbs   Apr-03-05 07:20 PM   #97 
        - How do you know that for sure? n/t  NNN0LHI   Apr-03-05 07:27 PM   #98 
           - If they did, they certainly didn't have the ability to enforce them  Freddie Stubbs   Apr-03-05 07:32 PM   #99 
  - Nobody has standing to argue that point in a court of law  Walt Starr   Apr-04-05 11:00 AM   #136 
  - They have no authority to do this  alarimer   Apr-03-05 04:43 PM   #78 
  - Political issue, not a funding problem.  MeinaShaw   Apr-03-05 04:50 PM   # 
  - You're right of course  alarimer   Apr-03-05 04:57 PM   #83 
     - Yes, that is correct  MeinaShaw   Apr-03-05 05:09 PM   #85 
  - Is there any law which prohibits them from doing what they are doing?  Freddie Stubbs   Apr-03-05 07:02 PM   #95 
  - EVERYBODY has authority to do this  Walt Starr   Apr-04-05 11:01 AM   #137 
  - If we are going to let that many in, then do it legally  MeinaShaw   Apr-03-05 04:43 PM   #79 
     - BINGO! Don't like how imigration works now?  Walt Starr   Apr-04-05 11:03 AM   #138 
  - I do support them, in a way. Realistically, one of the very first things  Zorra   Apr-03-05 05:45 PM   #87 
  - minutemen, feh!  xchrom   Apr-02-05 09:13 AM   #2 
  - 200 showed up  AZDemDist6   Apr-02-05 09:14 AM   #4 
  - that'll actually be fun to watch happen. fat guys with mustaches and  colonel odis   Apr-02-05 09:19 AM   #5 
     - Or...  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Apr-02-05 09:33 AM   #9 
        - Tandalayo, you sure nailed it...  Redstone   Apr-02-05 04:49 PM   #32 
  - And now the Reichwing has identified 200 founding members...  Cerridwen   Apr-02-05 09:20 AM   #6 
  - I think these people are despicable but it was worth a few minutes  Democrat 4 Ever   Apr-02-05 09:27 AM   #7 
     - She is a nasty hack  MessiahRp   Apr-02-05 09:36 AM   #11 
  - Hmmm..seems the carefully crafted Neocon coalition...  Minnesota_Lib   Apr-02-05 09:29 AM   #8 
  - leave mexico alone for christ sake  pretzel4gore   Apr-02-05 09:33 AM   #10 
  - Water obligation  MrTriumph   Apr-02-05 02:35 PM   #23 
  - hard...to get...real!  pretzel4gore   Apr-02-05 02:51 PM   #25 
     - Mexico disregarded the treaty to share water  MrTriumph   Apr-02-05 04:35 PM   #28 
        - Bullshit. Absolute bullshit.  Redstone   Apr-02-05 04:47 PM   #31 
        - Redstone, here's proof (BTW, it took only 3 seconds to find on the net)  MrTriumph   Apr-02-05 05:04 PM   #34 
        - And here's more proof, Redstone (took 20 seconds)  MrTriumph   Apr-02-05 05:13 PM   #35 
        - he's right. i'm from the Rio Grande Valley and it was a HUGE story  AgadorSparticus   Apr-03-05 10:56 PM   #124 
        - It was the Dams that the US insisted on building that  unsavedtrash   Apr-04-05 11:52 AM   #140 
        - Glenn Canyon Dam did more to hurt Mexico's farm communities  0007   Apr-03-05 12:32 PM   #63 
           - Hey, 0007- As we say in Texas, "No blab, just fact."  MrTriumph   Apr-03-05 01:34 PM   #66 
           - Your propaganda sure isn't a concern of mine!  0007   Apr-03-05 01:36 PM   #67 
           - Mexico did hoard water, that's a fact.  MrTriumph   Apr-03-05 01:41 PM   #69 
              - I propbably know more what these Texans are crying about than YOU  0007   Apr-03-05 01:54 PM   #70 
              - Slanted Links? Get real.  MrTriumph   Apr-03-05 06:15 PM   #90 
                 - Obviously you haven't read too many of them!  0007   Apr-03-05 06:23 PM   #92 
              - You know what?  sendero   Apr-03-05 09:13 PM   #111 
           - Wow you are full of it  LoganW   Apr-03-05 01:58 PM   #72 
              - But the water issue was a real thing here  alarimer   Apr-03-05 04:50 PM   #81 
              - LoganW- It was pun. Blab/Brag. Get it? Nah, forget it.  MrTriumph   Apr-03-05 06:18 PM   #91 
           - The Glen Canyon Dam is on the Colorado River  alarimer   Apr-03-05 05:00 PM   #84 
  - Migrant workers send a lot of money back home  alarimer   Apr-03-05 04:45 PM   #80 
  - we really need to find a cure for premature ejaculation  Strawman   Apr-02-05 09:36 AM   #12 
  - Send them porn!  DBoon   Apr-02-05 09:46 AM   #15 
     - None, though...  Orsino   Apr-02-05 04:24 PM   #26 
  - Read this (they must be a real astute bunch)  AnnInLa   Apr-02-05 09:46 AM   #14 
  - Hah! Identified: the only real threat from US media...  Rose Siding   Apr-02-05 10:02 AM   #19 
  - Got any photos of this group?  0007   Apr-03-05 04:10 PM   #74 
     - found one...in a 3-20 second search  dweller   Apr-03-05 10:06 PM   #114 
  - It's about time Bush beefed up security for the borders and ports.  barb162   Apr-03-05 06:04 PM   #89 
  - pRes has failed us  obxhead   Apr-02-05 09:48 AM   #16 
  - Getting strip searched and groped should make you feel secure.  Doremus   Apr-03-05 08:56 PM   #110 
  - And when they get their asses kicked by MS-13  Zerex71   Apr-02-05 09:49 AM   #17 
  - Is * afraid of these nuts?  randr   Apr-02-05 10:01 AM   #18 
  - "Since when did enforcing the laws of the land become a radical idea"  Toots   Apr-02-05 10:04 AM   #20 
  - Since the Border Patrol stopped effectively doing it.  BillySherm   Apr-02-05 10:28 AM   #21 
  - "This isn't much different than a neighborhood watch program"  RetroLounge   Apr-03-05 01:54 PM   #71 
     - If your house was on the border  MeinaShaw   Apr-03-05 04:52 PM   #82 
        - "Those people there have been overrun"  RetroLounge   Apr-03-05 06:03 PM   #88 
           - The hired help  MeinaShaw   Apr-03-05 11:50 PM   #128 
  - Pre-emptive law suits! lol Good one toots! n/t  icymist   Apr-03-05 09:54 PM   #112 
  - This is a stew none of us should be in, Terri, the Pope and now this.  anarchy1999   Apr-02-05 04:28 PM   #27 
  - Reading the rest of this article, its hard to stereotype the Minutemen  DeaconBlues   Apr-02-05 06:02 PM   #36 
  - They should be called the Klan...Not minutemen  greatbubba   Apr-02-05 06:26 PM   #37 
  - Gaffes hamper Minuteman kickoff  struggle4progress   Apr-02-05 06:56 PM   #38 
  - kick to combine  Moderator   Apr-03-05 07:45 AM   #40 
  - Immigrant Spotters Rally on U.S.-Mexico Border  Steve_DeShazer   Apr-03-05 07:45 AM   #41 
  - I hope all they do is 'report illegal aliens'.  babylonsister   Apr-03-05 07:45 AM   #42 
  - They sound like vigilantes to just everyone else, too...  Redstone   Apr-03-05 07:45 AM   #43 
  - I see you agree with Bush's judgement of these people.  DeaconBlues   Apr-03-05 07:45 AM   #46 
  - I do agree with Bush  Steve_DeShazer   Apr-03-05 12:12 PM   #61 
  - Agree...  rayofreason   Apr-03-05 12:51 PM   #64 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-03-05 07:33 PM   #100 
  - So let's see, if I say the sky is blue, and Bush says  Redstone   Apr-03-05 05:21 PM   #86 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-03-05 07:40 PM   #101 
        - OK, I won't make a dumb statement...  Redstone   Apr-03-05 08:03 PM   #105 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-03-05 10:11 PM   #116 
              - You're the onewho made the statement, so  Redstone   Apr-03-05 10:23 PM   #119 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-03-05 10:27 PM   #121 
                    - Oh, no. You dont' get to weasel out of this one.  Redstone   Apr-03-05 10:34 PM   #123 
  - oops..  rayofreason   Apr-03-05 12:57 PM   #65 
  - I'm gettin' a bad feelin' on this eom  Geo55   Apr-03-05 07:45 AM   #44 
  - Limp-dick wussies trying to prove their manhood....  Webster Green   Apr-03-05 07:45 AM   #45 
  - "Limp-dick wussies"  DeaconBlues   Apr-03-05 07:46 AM   #50 
     - Whatever.....thats my take on it. (n/t)  Webster Green   Apr-03-05 07:46 AM   #52 
     - Don't look like peaceful protestors when they're packing guns!  djmaddox1   Apr-03-05 07:46 AM   #57 
  - Mark my words.. there will be unmarked graves in the desert  SoCalDem   Apr-03-05 07:45 AM   #47 
  - There are already probably a good many unmarked graves  DeaconBlues   Apr-03-05 07:45 AM   #48 
  - You are right..there will be even more now:(  SoCalDem   Apr-03-05 07:45 AM   #49 
  - yeah, but whose?  DoNotRefill   Apr-03-05 07:46 AM   #53 
     - A return to the Old West....  SoCalDem   Apr-03-05 07:46 AM   #56 
     - That's exactly what I've been thinking  liberalla   Apr-03-05 07:46 AM   #58 
  - I say to them "Then stop eating!" because guess what you dumbasses  noahmijo   Apr-03-05 07:46 AM   #51 
  - You are right about businesses supporting the exploitation  MrTriumph   Apr-03-05 01:38 PM   #68 
  - The other day I pulled into a local gas station/  LibDemAlways   Apr-04-05 02:27 PM   #144 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-03-05 07:52 PM   #103 
  - Gee, it's a crying shame that you have to go to all the trouble  Redstone   Apr-03-05 08:52 PM   #108 
  - noahmijo, there's someone here who wants you to  Redstone   Apr-03-05 08:56 PM   #109 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-03-05 10:09 PM   #115 
        - I am loyal to my country. It's called America.  Redstone   Apr-03-05 10:14 PM   #117 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-03-05 10:24 PM   #120 
              - "people like me" being...who?  Redstone   Apr-03-05 10:32 PM   #122 
  - I wonder how many of these vigilantes  LibDemAlways   Apr-03-05 07:46 AM   #54 
  - I think your post is a premise of a comedy movie  Lucky Luciano   Apr-03-05 07:46 AM   #60 
  - Spot on  Steve_DeShazer   Apr-03-05 12:25 PM   #62 
  - Ummm...  DoNotRefill   Apr-04-05 12:34 AM   #130 
  - What do you think of that?  libodem   Apr-03-05 07:46 AM   #55 
     - Illegals do not get paid minimum wage...  readmylips   Apr-03-05 07:46 AM   #59 
        - I've heard of places in Arizona where the Mexicans were paid $4.50 a day  0007   Apr-03-05 04:18 PM   #75 
  - Like them or not, you have to admire that they fight for their beliefs.  Doremus   Apr-03-05 04:06 PM   #73 
  - I Agree....  K8-EEE   Apr-03-05 08:38 PM   #107 
     - Very True.  TheGoldenRule   Apr-04-05 08:55 AM   #132 
        - Fox & * Are On The Side Of Exploitation  K8-EEE   Apr-04-05 09:25 AM   #133 
  - Who would build our houses? Mow our lawns? Phoenicians concerned  Neshanic   Apr-03-05 06:50 PM   #93 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-03-05 07:45 PM   #102 
     - "No room in this country?  Redstone   Apr-03-05 10:04 PM   #113 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-03-05 10:20 PM   #118 
  - this sounds like a bad movie... and it's sure as heck causing a lot of  truthisfreedom   Apr-03-05 07:57 PM   #104 
  - I think we can all agree that the president has failed America  IronLionZion   Apr-03-05 11:13 PM   #125 
  - Border Carnival side-show  GoldenOldie   Apr-03-05 11:26 PM   #127 
  - I have a whole different way I see the issue.  Kerrytravelers   Apr-03-05 11:22 PM   #126 
  - Shades of the KKK!!!!  NVMojo   Apr-04-05 12:17 AM   #129 
  - Yessir, the KKK was NOTORIOUS for calling the cops when....  DoNotRefill   Apr-04-05 05:17 AM   #131 
     - Yea. They just called the cops who also belonged to the KKK n/t  NNN0LHI   Apr-04-05 10:00 AM   #135 
        - From my reading....  DoNotRefill   Apr-05-05 04:06 PM   #145 
  - These threads are all good  NNN0LHI   Apr-04-05 09:59 AM   #134 
  - Were the bagpipe players and the jugglers for Christ there? n/t  NNN0LHI   Apr-04-05 11:44 AM   #139 
  - egad!!!!!!!!! how can you all stand yourselfs  kybob   Apr-04-05 12:47 PM   #141 
  - Confederate Flag is missing from the onlne version of the article  BadGimp   Apr-04-05 01:20 PM   #143 
 

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