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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 07:47 PM
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16. I watched this today on C-Span
and the press knows there is a problem. I think they have been taken by surprise at how aggressively this White House has spun them, and lied to them. Mike McCurry (Clinton's press secretary) defended the White House, saying that they are putting out their point of view and it is up to the press corp to challenge it. But they did not seem to be buying.

A few newspapers said that they are going to try to put on a reporter for the "truth squad."(my words, not their's) They spoke of some very important stories, and how there has been no interest - such as torture. The woman who was head of CBS in Washington was whining: But there's no interest in stories about process. Another reporter contradicted her, saying that when the stories were put in the perspective of citizens' rights, that the White House was trying to lie or spin the citizens, they got a huge response. They have to write the stories that way, because the people don't like to be lied to, and really pay attention when that happens.

They agreed to do more to show how this WH spins. My opinion: this administration has embarrassed and scared them, and now many of them are pissed. I think we will see more real journalism in the next few months. I know, in their shoes, I would be pissed.
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  -WaPo: What's a Press Corps To Do? (press considering revolt against WH) grasswire  Mar-18-05 07:06 PM   #0 
  - and here's what Froomkin's boss says...  grasswire   Mar-18-05 07:08 PM   #1 
  - well that sure put a corker on any of idea of a press revolt!!  rodeodance   Mar-18-05 07:16 PM   #4 
  - Rots o Ruck you sycophantic  zidzi   Mar-18-05 07:14 PM   #2 
  - Here is an interesting part  Pirate Smile   Mar-18-05 07:14 PM   #3 
  - I agree  JerseygirlCT   Mar-18-05 07:26 PM   #9 
  - Exactly. The WH Correspondents job now is to simply repeat  Pirate Smile   Mar-18-05 07:36 PM   #11 
  - Is that what they learned in J-school?  Demgirl   Mar-19-05 10:33 AM   #61 
     - That isn't what they were teaching a decade ago when I got my  Pirate Smile   Mar-19-05 10:56 AM   #63 
  - YES!!!!: the news ought to report on those machinations  chomskysright   Mar-18-05 07:55 PM   #21 
     - Agreed but at best we will only get the newspapers and magazines  BrendaStarr   Mar-18-05 09:01 PM   #30 
  - They think it, but don't write it  MsMagnificent   Mar-18-05 10:46 PM   # 
  - only a SMALL part of their income comes from subscribers  Stephen The Liberal   Mar-19-05 07:42 AM   #50 
     - Good point, thanks  MsMagnificent   Mar-19-05 02:56 PM   #69 
  - This is so long overdue.  Dulcinea   Mar-20-05 05:19 AM   #78 
  - A revolt of some kind is long overdue  Jack Rabbit   Mar-18-05 07:16 PM   #5 
  - Mainstream news has missed too many Bush scandals --  JDPriestly   Mar-18-05 07:27 PM   #10 
  - you are right  Stephen The Liberal   Mar-19-05 07:49 AM   #51 
  - Actually, "follow-up" questions - repeated till a satisfactory answer is  TankLV   Mar-20-05 01:32 PM   #81 
  - They need to make a decision: Are they journalists or carrier pigeons?  havocmom   Mar-18-05 07:17 PM   #6 
  - Funny, I got a call today from a local community paper editor.  Liberty Belle   Mar-18-05 07:26 PM   #8 
  - I believe this story is just cover. The press is trying to convey it has  Robbien   Mar-18-05 07:50 PM   #18 
  - Bingo. Playing to the interneters who KNOW THEY ARE CIA'S LIARS.  JohnOneillsMemory   Mar-18-05 08:42 PM   #28 
  - Sadly, you are correct.............  ClintonTyree   Mar-18-05 09:20 PM   #33 
     - It is the political Donner class that control the government  Stephen The Liberal   Mar-19-05 08:13 AM   #54 
     - Government controlled media.  saskatoon   Mar-19-05 04:33 PM   #75 
  - My thoughts exactly. I call bullshit on this "rebellion"  Mandate My Ass   Mar-18-05 09:40 PM   #35 
  - No, my local editor is a liberal.  Liberty Belle   Mar-19-05 04:06 PM   #72 
  - Congrats Liberty Belle! I hope you stepped up to the plate!  peacebird   Mar-18-05 07:51 PM   #19 
  - Yep! I'm even getting paid a token amount, and will be  Liberty Belle   Mar-19-05 04:08 PM   #73 
  - If they have an online edition, make sure you post a link.  djmaddox1   Mar-18-05 07:52 PM   # 
     - Thanks! I'll post, but unfortunately they don't have a website.  Liberty Belle   Mar-19-05 04:09 PM   #74 
        - Always happy to encourage an editor for good coverage.  djmaddox1   Mar-20-05 02:52 AM   #77 
  - "carrier pigeons"!  troubleinwinter   Mar-18-05 07:37 PM   #12 
  - "Carrier pigeons..." exactly! Love your line. I would be happy  rzemanfl   Mar-19-05 05:20 AM   #46 
  - A Journalist's Craft.. Read on WJ C-Span yesterday....  leftchick   Mar-19-05 07:56 AM   #53 
  - Awwwwwww ... "Daddy Dubya" ain't treatin' you 'hos right?  FlemingsGhost   Mar-18-05 07:25 PM   #7 
  - DING DING DING! FlemingsGhost, you're our grand prize winner!  rocknation   Mar-18-05 09:05 PM   #31 
  - I suspect many of the journalists prefer it this way  creeksneakers2   Mar-18-05 07:44 PM   #13 
  - it might be time to write to Len Downie  grasswire   Mar-18-05 07:46 PM   #14 
  - well hey publish your battle plan then so the WH can see it.  chimpsrsmarter   Mar-18-05 07:46 PM   #15 
  - ...which is why this is all for show and to be consumed by us in an attemp  Al-CIAda   Mar-19-05 03:23 PM   #71 
  - I watched this today on C-Span  adigal   Mar-18-05 07:47 PM   #16 
  - Orginally posted by Adigal  rocknation   Mar-18-05 10:46 PM   #38 
  - Janet Leissner, CBS Washington chief  realFedUp   Mar-19-05 10:19 AM   #58 
  - What really has them worried - $$  Demgirl   Mar-19-05 10:42 AM   #62 
  - poodle pup press  AZDemDist6   Mar-18-05 07:49 PM   #17 
  - Yep. And they were probably ordered to print stories such as this  Robbien   Mar-18-05 07:52 PM   #20 
     - Heh. Interesting, but I'll be skeptical until I see action. n/t.  BlueIris   Mar-18-05 08:10 PM   #23 
        - I meant to say stories such as this WaPo one which says reporters  Robbien   Mar-18-05 08:25 PM   #26 
           - Yeah, a "false dawn"  confludemocrat   Mar-18-05 10:43 PM   #37 
              - As said above, if this was on the level,  confludemocrat   Mar-18-05 10:47 PM   #39 
  - a combative clip from yesterday's briefing  grasswire   Mar-18-05 07:59 PM   #22 
  - David Gregory has been one to press McClellan (not physically) more than  tater_salad   Mar-18-05 08:33 PM   #27 
  - Oh, but David speaks FRENCH  MADem   Mar-19-05 01:58 PM   #66 
  - "Render"? "Rendition"? What the fuck is it with all these euphemisims?  TankLV   Mar-20-05 01:49 PM   #82 
  - glad to see there are some journalists left who know what their job is ...  NVMojo   Mar-18-05 08:18 PM   #24 
  - An astrological pattern: US will see more press revolt  SpiralHawk   Mar-18-05 08:23 PM   #25 
  - As a former adherent to astrology  Spiffarino   Mar-19-05 02:08 PM   #67 
  - I think the media, in general, are panicking over blogs,....  Robeson   Mar-18-05 08:45 PM   #29 
  - The media HAS TO start embarrassing the White House.................  ClintonTyree   Mar-18-05 09:07 PM   #32 
  - I saw part of this forum and was impressed and depressed....  higher class   Mar-18-05 09:33 PM   #34 
  - I cant imagine that meeting as being anything other than a buncha phonies.  Harlequin   Mar-18-05 10:05 PM   #36 
  - Well at least they are admiting there's a problem with this WH!  napi21   Mar-18-05 10:49 PM   #40 
  - But are we hearing about this forum on the teevee?? 24/7??? Nope!  loudsue   Mar-18-05 11:21 PM   #41 
  - in this era of spin and misinformation, it's time to head to the ramparts  paineinthearse   Mar-18-05 11:26 PM   #42 
  - Ain't it interesting how the rest of the world's media has had no problems  LynnTheDem   Mar-19-05 02:22 AM   #43 
  - Wow they all talked about how to handle being kicked in the ass  Rex   Mar-19-05 03:23 AM   #44 
  - You all kick ass here!!!  gtar100   Mar-19-05 03:33 AM   #45 
  - There are no Reporters anymore....Just...Repeaters.  Gin   Mar-19-05 05:41 AM   #47 
  - I like that phrase....  realFedUp   Mar-19-05 10:21 AM   #59 
  - Hi gtar !  Catchawave   Mar-19-05 07:54 AM   #52 
  - The BFEE uses the WH press corps as part of their "perception  bobthedrummer   Mar-19-05 06:24 AM   #48 
  - The Press Corps is revolting?  ClintonTyree   Mar-19-05 07:27 AM   #49 
  - press corps  90-percent   Mar-19-05 08:42 AM   #55 
  - "Surrender your independence"  athenap   Mar-19-05 09:15 AM   #56 
  - When monkeys fly out of my ass...  Enraged_Ape   Mar-19-05 09:26 AM   #57 
  - Watch the CIA move into the blogsphere  glitch   Mar-19-05 10:28 AM   #60 
  - So, we're supposed...  DirtyDawg   Mar-19-05 11:32 AM   #64 
  - It begins--look at this snippet on a report about Schiavo  pacoyogi   Mar-19-05 11:48 AM   #65 
  - Is anyone else disturbed by the idea of a MSM revolt?  deadparrot   Mar-19-05 02:09 PM   #68 
  - We shouldn't :(  MsMagnificent   Mar-19-05 02:59 PM   #70 
  - Almost none of you  Oeditpus Rex   Mar-20-05 12:25 AM   #76 
  - and a public welcome to DU, oedit  grasswire   Mar-20-05 01:15 PM   #80 
  - Like this is going anywhere? NO!  PROGRESSIVE1   Mar-20-05 06:47 AM   #79 
  - The only kind of revolt that will work is. . .  leanin_green   Mar-20-05 03:28 PM   #83 
  - The key: that enough of the press act together with integrity rather than  Nothing Without Hope   Mar-20-05 09:40 PM   #84 
  - Never give up.Never give in.  The Kicker   Mar-20-05 11:14 PM   #85 

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