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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 03:02 PM
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70. Oh my God, please!
Do you know why they fall apart?

Because people like you don't want to admit (for whatever reason, sometimes I wonder) that child sexual abuse really happens, so you scramble and confuse everyone who doesn't know any better to try to prove the accusations are wrong, which you cannot because your own opinion is fucking speculation!!!

"Obvious to everyone he was lying to get the money"???

Don't even get me started on this one! :grr:
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  -Trial starts for 66 accused of child rape and sex abuse emad  Mar-02-05 09:07 AM   #0 
  - Ick.  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Mar-02-05 09:08 AM   #1 
  - Double ick. (nt)  missb   Mar-02-05 02:06 PM   #31 
  - And most likely like all the other cases like this  Tempest   Mar-02-05 11:00 AM   #2 
  - hm...sounds like they were found out to me. n/t  kk897   Mar-02-05 11:21 AM   #3 
  - They weren't found out  Tempest   Mar-02-05 11:38 AM   #4 
     - Franklin Cover-Up. Google.  kk897   Mar-02-05 12:29 PM   #6 
     - Tin foil hat time  Tempest   Mar-02-05 12:56 PM   #9 
        - Ex Senator DeCamp won a million dollar lawsuit on behalf of one of  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 01:26 PM   #15 
           - The only lawsuit I can find was one he filed for libel  Tempest   Mar-02-05 01:37 PM   #18 
           - Listen to the MP3 he mentions the libel case, (he brought) AND the..  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 01:45 PM   #22 
           - Found it  Tempest   Mar-02-05 01:42 PM   #20 
              - You want government ties?  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 11:34 AM   #158 
     - Bullshit!  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 03:16 PM   #77 
        - Again I ask  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:28 PM   #84 
           - It would take me some time to look it up  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 03:41 PM   #90 
           - Yes, I can prove they lied  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:56 PM   #97 
              - Okay, but that is not proof that everyone is lying in every case.  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 04:14 PM   #104 
           - Here's your answer, CONVICTION LIST:  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 11:10 AM   #157 
  - Here's your logical fallacy:  Minstrel Boy   Mar-02-05 12:42 PM   #7 
  - Being found out means it has been witnessed  Tempest   Mar-02-05 01:01 PM   #10 
     - And who would be a witness besides the abuser and the abused....  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 01:09 PM   #11 
     - We'll have to wait to see what proof the prosecution has  Tempest   Mar-02-05 01:16 PM   #12 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-02-05 03:12 PM   #74 
        - Timeline of the Ritual Abuse Panic  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:33 PM   #87 
           - Tempest....can you help me to understand...  TwoSparkles   Mar-02-05 04:01 PM   #101 
              - No case with a large number of defendants has ever held up  Tempest   Mar-02-05 04:19 PM   #106 
              - It isn't just the satanic ritual cases that have been debunked.  girl gone mad   Mar-02-05 06:00 PM   #134 
        - Don't tell me, let me guess......  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 03:32 PM   #86 
           - Cold as ice  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:34 PM   #88 
              - You wish!  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 03:48 PM   #93 
                 - I did answer your question  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:57 PM   #100 
                    - If I am cold as ice, then  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 04:17 PM   #105 
                       - Because it's none of your business  Tempest   Mar-02-05 04:20 PM   #107 
                          - Okay,  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 04:27 PM   #110 
     - wow, are you some kind of child hater?  jdj   Mar-03-05 04:42 PM   #167 
  - Here's some more  yodermon   Mar-02-05 03:57 PM   #99 
     - Excellent post, Yodermon!  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 04:26 PM   #109 
     - I don't think that charactizes Tempest fairly at all...  Solon   Mar-02-05 04:27 PM   #111 
        - I don't mind being seen as the bad guy  Tempest   Mar-02-05 04:36 PM   #113 
           - Some of the cases haven't held up  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 04:53 PM   #117 
              - In the vast majority of the cases, the victims have recanted  Tempest   Mar-02-05 04:58 PM   #121 
                 - You say the vast majority of the cases?  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 05:08 PM   #125 
                    - See, that's the thing...  Solon   Mar-02-05 07:36 PM   #144 
                       - I addressed this issue on another thread  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 12:27 AM   #149 
  - Elch!  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 11:44 AM   #5 
  - Every time i see something like this I WANT TO SCREAM.WHY DO PEOPLE CREATE  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 12:46 PM   #8 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-02-05 07:34 PM   #143 
     - They may happen but this is no reason to calm down. IMO that is...  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 08:59 PM   #147 
  - Tempest speaks with wisdom here . .  msmcghee   Mar-02-05 01:17 PM   #13 
  - Except that some of us KNOW for a fact that this stuff occurs.  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 01:27 PM   #16 
     - I guess it's possible that at some time in history . .  msmcghee   Mar-02-05 01:36 PM   #17 
     - Are you Christian too? Is this the new dem way? I thought religion was...  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 01:43 PM   #21 
        - I have to suspect that someone who believes . .  msmcghee   Mar-02-05 01:51 PM   #25 
        - The funny thing is  Tempest   Mar-02-05 01:59 PM   #27 
        - Yes, the wonderful old testament . .  msmcghee   Mar-02-05 02:02 PM   #28 
        - Ah i see, that makes it ok.  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 02:05 PM   #30 
        - Are you saying it's okay???!!! That's just sick.  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:17 PM   #36 
           - No i never SAID i was religious. The other poster suggested i was.  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 02:28 PM   #42 
              - I misread what you posted  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:38 PM   #52 
        - And God is a child killer.  girl gone mad   Mar-02-05 06:06 PM   #135 
        - You make an assumption of the validity of my BELIEF...  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 02:03 PM   #29 
           - I never denied child sexual abuse occurs . .  msmcghee   Mar-02-05 02:17 PM   #35 
              - Mordarlar likes to set up strawmen  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:19 PM   #37 
              - I am female.  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 02:33 PM   #48 
              - At ten yrs old i sat on a couch while my mothers boyfriend told a group of  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 02:33 PM   #46 
              - Once again you stray far from the topic  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:40 PM   #54 
                 - ...  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 03:05 PM   #71 
                 - But she was a CHILD  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 04:57 PM   #120 
                 - I think you may need some education  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 12:23 PM   #161 
              - "Hysteria"? Seriously, that is totally uncool,  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 04:42 PM   #115 
        - Yes, sex abuse of children occurs  Tempest   Mar-02-05 01:56 PM   #26 
           - Oh my God, please!  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 03:02 PM   #70 
              - If you're so certain  Tempest   Mar-02-05 05:07 PM   #124 
              - I don't understand, Tempest,  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 05:26 PM   #126 
              - Do you enjoy setting up strawmen?  Tempest   Mar-02-05 05:50 PM   #129 
                 - I'm not building any "strawmen"  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 07:50 PM   #145 
              - Here's your answer CONVICTION LIST:  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 12:09 PM   #159 
              - Utter nonsense.  girl gone mad   Mar-02-05 06:13 PM   #136 
                 - I will look into this case, but seriously,  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 07:57 PM   #146 
                    - The children who testified against the Friedmans..  girl gone mad   Mar-02-05 09:53 PM   #148 
                       - Please read my post #149.  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 12:33 AM   #151 
     - Not the way the police make it out to be  Tempest   Mar-02-05 01:46 PM   #23 
        - I was not SPEAKING specifically of this case....  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 02:14 PM   #33 
           - Then what are you doing jumping into the conversation?  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:23 PM   #39 
  - We should wait for the verdict before passing any judgement  Rush1184   Mar-02-05 01:20 PM   #14 
  - Sometimes people get away with murder in a court trial,  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 05:02 PM   #122 
     - That is besides the point...  Rush1184   Mar-03-05 07:13 AM   #155 
  - Why the hell are people on DU defending these monsters?  Ripley   Mar-02-05 01:41 PM   #19 
  - Why the hell are people on DU condemning these people?  Tempest   Mar-02-05 01:50 PM   #24 
  - Welcome to BushAmerica: You are guilty until proven innocent.  Conservativesux   Mar-03-05 12:34 AM   #152 
  - Child abuse ring hoaxes....  western mass   Mar-02-05 02:11 PM   #32 
     - For one thing, this case is in Europe, not the US.  Ripley   Mar-02-05 02:16 PM   #34 
     - "I can only come to one conclusion when people protest a little too much"  Bridget Burke   Mar-02-05 02:21 PM   #38 
     - That's what he seems to be saying  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:31 PM   #45 
     - Where did I once say that?  Ripley   Mar-02-05 02:36 PM   #51 
        - You made it very clear  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:42 PM   #55 
        - It belittles the crime when prosectors perpetrate and . . .  msmcghee   Mar-02-05 03:56 PM   #98 
     - I'm with you on that one.  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 12:15 PM   #160 
     - of course....  western mass   Mar-02-05 02:27 PM   #41 
     - I never said hoaxes don't happen.  Ripley   Mar-02-05 02:29 PM   #43 
     - THEN WHERE IS THE PROOF???!!!  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:34 PM   #49 
        - There is no hardcore "proof"  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 03:08 PM   #72 
        - Proof not needed?  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:41 PM   #91 
           - I know for a fact that things like this DO happen  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 04:03 PM   #103 
        - CONVICTION LIST:  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 05:04 PM   #169 
     - HI, western mass.  intheflow   Mar-02-05 02:45 PM   #56 
     - There's one problem with your contention  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:29 PM   #44 
        - So you don't think that large group of PRIESTS existed?  Ripley   Mar-02-05 02:33 PM   #47 
           - There is NO evidence any of the priests worked together as a group  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:36 PM   #50 
           - So if you didn't read about it , it didn't happen?  Ripley   Mar-02-05 02:39 PM   #53 
           - Yet again another request goes unfullfilled  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:46 PM   #58 
              - Did you see the link?  Ripley   Mar-02-05 02:50 PM   #62 
                 - Just like your Wonderland link...  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:55 PM   #64 
           - Do you know of the current Toledo case?  Minstrel Boy   Mar-02-05 03:13 PM   #76 
              - Investigation stage  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:38 PM   #89 
              - Read the whole article...  Solon   Mar-02-05 03:55 PM   #96 
                 - The nun had stab marks in the pattern of a cross, was laid on the altar  Minstrel Boy   Mar-02-05 05:57 PM   #133 
                    - No I said to describe the murder as ritualistic...  Solon   Mar-02-05 07:18 PM   #140 
           - International child trafficking rings do exist...  Solon   Mar-02-05 02:45 PM   #57 
              - Good post  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:47 PM   #59 
              - No problem...  Solon   Mar-02-05 02:57 PM   #65 
              - Perhaps.  Ripley   Mar-02-05 02:49 PM   #61 
              - You can't be serious  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:57 PM   #66 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-02-05 02:59 PM   # 
                    - Don't go away mad  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:01 PM   #69 
              - Stretching credibility to the breaking point?  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 12:33 PM   #162 
     - Another case, close to home  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:26 PM   #40 
     - Ahh, I remember reading about that  lolly   Mar-02-05 03:01 PM   #68 
     - You do bring up a good point there...  Solon   Mar-02-05 03:09 PM   #73 
     - Okay, you explained it a little further  lolly   Mar-02-05 03:21 PM   #81 
        - Actually it could be much simpler than that...  Solon   Mar-02-05 04:03 PM   #102 
     - Timeline of the Ritual Abuse Panic  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:26 PM   #83 
        - Thanks for the info  lolly   Mar-03-05 12:29 AM   #150 
     - Here's info close to home:  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 12:41 PM   #163 
     - The McMartin case is a shame  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 05:30 PM   #127 
        - The McMartin case is just one of many  Tempest   Mar-02-05 05:51 PM   #130 
        - You cannot PROVE IT!  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 12:40 AM   #153 
        - Oops, TYPO. Meant to say SHAM.  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 12:43 PM   #164 
  - I don't understand the defensiveness on this issue...  TwoSparkles   Mar-02-05 02:48 PM   #60 
  - Thank you for "getting it."  Ripley   Mar-02-05 02:53 PM   #63 
  - Of course it is obvious from my posts here i do not understand it either.  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 03:13 PM   #75 
  - History has shown  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:59 PM   #67 
  - I hear what you are saying...  TwoSparkles   Mar-02-05 03:18 PM   #80 
  - Here is a BBC link:  Ripley   Mar-02-05 03:23 PM   #82 
  - Something else research has shown  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:46 PM   #92 
  - CONVICTION LIST:  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 05:00 PM   #168 
  - "the outraged disbelief"  Minstrel Boy   Mar-02-05 03:17 PM   #79 
  - I do understand the "outraged disbelief"...  TwoSparkles   Mar-02-05 03:30 PM   #85 
  - Umm...  girl gone mad   Mar-02-05 06:28 PM   #137 
  - As myself and others have clearly pointed out  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:50 PM   #94 
     - But, this wasn't "ritualistic child abuse...as you keep saying!  TwoSparkles   Mar-02-05 04:30 PM   #112 
        - The word ritual is appropriate  Tempest   Mar-02-05 04:54 PM   #118 
           - I'm getting you now---  TwoSparkles   Mar-02-05 05:06 PM   #123 
              - It's not just the Stoll/Modall case  Tempest   Mar-02-05 05:47 PM   #128 
  - This doesn't raise any suspicions in your mind:  girl gone mad   Mar-02-05 06:45 PM   #138 
  - Could you please tell me if THIS article mentions Satanic rituals or...  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 03:16 PM   #78 
  - No, it doesn't  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:52 PM   #95 
     - But you can't dismiss the validity of these allegations...  TwoSparkles   Mar-02-05 04:39 PM   #114 
        - I was not INSISTING the allegations are false.  Bridget Burke   Mar-02-05 04:47 PM   #116 
        - I think we all understand that the case is incomplete...  TwoSparkles   Mar-02-05 04:56 PM   #119 
           - You can't be talking about me  Tempest   Mar-02-05 05:56 PM   #132 
              - so you say there are organized child sex rings,  retnavyliberal   Mar-02-05 07:08 PM   #139 
                 - This may help you to understand why:  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 12:46 PM   #165 
        - Unlike some here, I'm not going to convict them before the trial  Tempest   Mar-02-05 05:54 PM   #131 
           - Here are some facts, government ties:  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 04:21 PM   #166 
  - WTF is up with these people?  kilgore65   Mar-02-05 04:22 PM   #108 
  - man...i wish i didn't read that  Blue_Tires   Mar-02-05 07:20 PM   #141 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-02-05 07:32 PM   #142 
  - two cents here, excuse me...  roscoeroscoe   Mar-03-05 01:23 AM   #154 
  - please weigh the fact that a tragically low number of these  jdj   Mar-03-05 05:08 PM   #170 
     - You bet they're not reported!  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 07:20 PM   #171 
        - So once again a poster decides to imply that..  girl gone mad   Mar-03-05 07:25 PM   #172 
  - Today's BBC News update:Child sex trial opens in France  emad   Mar-03-05 07:30 AM   #156 
  - In analyzing this case...  kilgore65   Mar-03-05 07:26 PM   #173 
 

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