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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:50 PM
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62. Did you see the link?
I edited one in.
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  -Trial starts for 66 accused of child rape and sex abuse emad  Mar-02-05 09:07 AM   #0 
  - Ick.  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Mar-02-05 09:08 AM   #1 
  - Double ick. (nt)  missb   Mar-02-05 02:06 PM   #31 
  - And most likely like all the other cases like this  Tempest   Mar-02-05 11:00 AM   #2 
  - hm...sounds like they were found out to me. n/t  kk897   Mar-02-05 11:21 AM   #3 
  - They weren't found out  Tempest   Mar-02-05 11:38 AM   #4 
     - Franklin Cover-Up. Google.  kk897   Mar-02-05 12:29 PM   #6 
     - Tin foil hat time  Tempest   Mar-02-05 12:56 PM   #9 
        - Ex Senator DeCamp won a million dollar lawsuit on behalf of one of  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 01:26 PM   #15 
           - The only lawsuit I can find was one he filed for libel  Tempest   Mar-02-05 01:37 PM   #18 
           - Listen to the MP3 he mentions the libel case, (he brought) AND the..  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 01:45 PM   #22 
           - Found it  Tempest   Mar-02-05 01:42 PM   #20 
              - You want government ties?  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 11:34 AM   #158 
     - Bullshit!  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 03:16 PM   #77 
        - Again I ask  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:28 PM   #84 
           - It would take me some time to look it up  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 03:41 PM   #90 
           - Yes, I can prove they lied  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:56 PM   #97 
              - Okay, but that is not proof that everyone is lying in every case.  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 04:14 PM   #104 
           - Here's your answer, CONVICTION LIST:  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 11:10 AM   #157 
  - Here's your logical fallacy:  Minstrel Boy   Mar-02-05 12:42 PM   #7 
  - Being found out means it has been witnessed  Tempest   Mar-02-05 01:01 PM   #10 
     - And who would be a witness besides the abuser and the abused....  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 01:09 PM   #11 
     - We'll have to wait to see what proof the prosecution has  Tempest   Mar-02-05 01:16 PM   #12 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-02-05 03:12 PM   #74 
        - Timeline of the Ritual Abuse Panic  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:33 PM   #87 
           - Tempest....can you help me to understand...  TwoSparkles   Mar-02-05 04:01 PM   #101 
              - No case with a large number of defendants has ever held up  Tempest   Mar-02-05 04:19 PM   #106 
              - It isn't just the satanic ritual cases that have been debunked.  girl gone mad   Mar-02-05 06:00 PM   #134 
        - Don't tell me, let me guess......  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 03:32 PM   #86 
           - Cold as ice  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:34 PM   #88 
              - You wish!  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 03:48 PM   #93 
                 - I did answer your question  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:57 PM   #100 
                    - If I am cold as ice, then  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 04:17 PM   #105 
                       - Because it's none of your business  Tempest   Mar-02-05 04:20 PM   #107 
                          - Okay,  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 04:27 PM   #110 
     - wow, are you some kind of child hater?  jdj   Mar-03-05 04:42 PM   #167 
  - Here's some more  yodermon   Mar-02-05 03:57 PM   #99 
     - Excellent post, Yodermon!  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 04:26 PM   #109 
     - I don't think that charactizes Tempest fairly at all...  Solon   Mar-02-05 04:27 PM   #111 
        - I don't mind being seen as the bad guy  Tempest   Mar-02-05 04:36 PM   #113 
           - Some of the cases haven't held up  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 04:53 PM   #117 
              - In the vast majority of the cases, the victims have recanted  Tempest   Mar-02-05 04:58 PM   #121 
                 - You say the vast majority of the cases?  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 05:08 PM   #125 
                    - See, that's the thing...  Solon   Mar-02-05 07:36 PM   #144 
                       - I addressed this issue on another thread  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 12:27 AM   #149 
  - Elch!  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 11:44 AM   #5 
  - Every time i see something like this I WANT TO SCREAM.WHY DO PEOPLE CREATE  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 12:46 PM   #8 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-02-05 07:34 PM   #143 
     - They may happen but this is no reason to calm down. IMO that is...  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 08:59 PM   #147 
  - Tempest speaks with wisdom here . .  msmcghee   Mar-02-05 01:17 PM   #13 
  - Except that some of us KNOW for a fact that this stuff occurs.  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 01:27 PM   #16 
     - I guess it's possible that at some time in history . .  msmcghee   Mar-02-05 01:36 PM   #17 
     - Are you Christian too? Is this the new dem way? I thought religion was...  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 01:43 PM   #21 
        - I have to suspect that someone who believes . .  msmcghee   Mar-02-05 01:51 PM   #25 
        - The funny thing is  Tempest   Mar-02-05 01:59 PM   #27 
        - Yes, the wonderful old testament . .  msmcghee   Mar-02-05 02:02 PM   #28 
        - Ah i see, that makes it ok.  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 02:05 PM   #30 
        - Are you saying it's okay???!!! That's just sick.  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:17 PM   #36 
           - No i never SAID i was religious. The other poster suggested i was.  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 02:28 PM   #42 
              - I misread what you posted  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:38 PM   #52 
        - And God is a child killer.  girl gone mad   Mar-02-05 06:06 PM   #135 
        - You make an assumption of the validity of my BELIEF...  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 02:03 PM   #29 
           - I never denied child sexual abuse occurs . .  msmcghee   Mar-02-05 02:17 PM   #35 
              - Mordarlar likes to set up strawmen  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:19 PM   #37 
              - I am female.  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 02:33 PM   #48 
              - At ten yrs old i sat on a couch while my mothers boyfriend told a group of  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 02:33 PM   #46 
              - Once again you stray far from the topic  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:40 PM   #54 
                 - ...  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 03:05 PM   #71 
                 - But she was a CHILD  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 04:57 PM   #120 
                 - I think you may need some education  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 12:23 PM   #161 
              - "Hysteria"? Seriously, that is totally uncool,  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 04:42 PM   #115 
        - Yes, sex abuse of children occurs  Tempest   Mar-02-05 01:56 PM   #26 
           - Oh my God, please!  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 03:02 PM   #70 
              - If you're so certain  Tempest   Mar-02-05 05:07 PM   #124 
              - I don't understand, Tempest,  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 05:26 PM   #126 
              - Do you enjoy setting up strawmen?  Tempest   Mar-02-05 05:50 PM   #129 
                 - I'm not building any "strawmen"  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 07:50 PM   #145 
              - Here's your answer CONVICTION LIST:  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 12:09 PM   #159 
              - Utter nonsense.  girl gone mad   Mar-02-05 06:13 PM   #136 
                 - I will look into this case, but seriously,  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 07:57 PM   #146 
                    - The children who testified against the Friedmans..  girl gone mad   Mar-02-05 09:53 PM   #148 
                       - Please read my post #149.  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 12:33 AM   #151 
     - Not the way the police make it out to be  Tempest   Mar-02-05 01:46 PM   #23 
        - I was not SPEAKING specifically of this case....  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 02:14 PM   #33 
           - Then what are you doing jumping into the conversation?  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:23 PM   #39 
  - We should wait for the verdict before passing any judgement  Rush1184   Mar-02-05 01:20 PM   #14 
  - Sometimes people get away with murder in a court trial,  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 05:02 PM   #122 
     - That is besides the point...  Rush1184   Mar-03-05 07:13 AM   #155 
  - Why the hell are people on DU defending these monsters?  Ripley   Mar-02-05 01:41 PM   #19 
  - Why the hell are people on DU condemning these people?  Tempest   Mar-02-05 01:50 PM   #24 
  - Welcome to BushAmerica: You are guilty until proven innocent.  Conservativesux   Mar-03-05 12:34 AM   #152 
  - Child abuse ring hoaxes....  western mass   Mar-02-05 02:11 PM   #32 
     - For one thing, this case is in Europe, not the US.  Ripley   Mar-02-05 02:16 PM   #34 
     - "I can only come to one conclusion when people protest a little too much"  Bridget Burke   Mar-02-05 02:21 PM   #38 
     - That's what he seems to be saying  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:31 PM   #45 
     - Where did I once say that?  Ripley   Mar-02-05 02:36 PM   #51 
        - You made it very clear  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:42 PM   #55 
        - It belittles the crime when prosectors perpetrate and . . .  msmcghee   Mar-02-05 03:56 PM   #98 
     - I'm with you on that one.  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 12:15 PM   #160 
     - of course....  western mass   Mar-02-05 02:27 PM   #41 
     - I never said hoaxes don't happen.  Ripley   Mar-02-05 02:29 PM   #43 
     - THEN WHERE IS THE PROOF???!!!  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:34 PM   #49 
        - There is no hardcore "proof"  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 03:08 PM   #72 
        - Proof not needed?  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:41 PM   #91 
           - I know for a fact that things like this DO happen  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 04:03 PM   #103 
        - CONVICTION LIST:  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 05:04 PM   #169 
     - HI, western mass.  intheflow   Mar-02-05 02:45 PM   #56 
     - There's one problem with your contention  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:29 PM   #44 
        - So you don't think that large group of PRIESTS existed?  Ripley   Mar-02-05 02:33 PM   #47 
           - There is NO evidence any of the priests worked together as a group  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:36 PM   #50 
           - So if you didn't read about it , it didn't happen?  Ripley   Mar-02-05 02:39 PM   #53 
           - Yet again another request goes unfullfilled  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:46 PM   #58 
              - Did you see the link?  Ripley   Mar-02-05 02:50 PM   #62 
                 - Just like your Wonderland link...  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:55 PM   #64 
           - Do you know of the current Toledo case?  Minstrel Boy   Mar-02-05 03:13 PM   #76 
              - Investigation stage  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:38 PM   #89 
              - Read the whole article...  Solon   Mar-02-05 03:55 PM   #96 
                 - The nun had stab marks in the pattern of a cross, was laid on the altar  Minstrel Boy   Mar-02-05 05:57 PM   #133 
                    - No I said to describe the murder as ritualistic...  Solon   Mar-02-05 07:18 PM   #140 
           - International child trafficking rings do exist...  Solon   Mar-02-05 02:45 PM   #57 
              - Good post  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:47 PM   #59 
              - No problem...  Solon   Mar-02-05 02:57 PM   #65 
              - Perhaps.  Ripley   Mar-02-05 02:49 PM   #61 
              - You can't be serious  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:57 PM   #66 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-02-05 02:59 PM   # 
                    - Don't go away mad  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:01 PM   #69 
              - Stretching credibility to the breaking point?  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 12:33 PM   #162 
     - Another case, close to home  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:26 PM   #40 
     - Ahh, I remember reading about that  lolly   Mar-02-05 03:01 PM   #68 
     - You do bring up a good point there...  Solon   Mar-02-05 03:09 PM   #73 
     - Okay, you explained it a little further  lolly   Mar-02-05 03:21 PM   #81 
        - Actually it could be much simpler than that...  Solon   Mar-02-05 04:03 PM   #102 
     - Timeline of the Ritual Abuse Panic  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:26 PM   #83 
        - Thanks for the info  lolly   Mar-03-05 12:29 AM   #150 
     - Here's info close to home:  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 12:41 PM   #163 
     - The McMartin case is a shame  Megahurtz   Mar-02-05 05:30 PM   #127 
        - The McMartin case is just one of many  Tempest   Mar-02-05 05:51 PM   #130 
        - You cannot PROVE IT!  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 12:40 AM   #153 
        - Oops, TYPO. Meant to say SHAM.  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 12:43 PM   #164 
  - I don't understand the defensiveness on this issue...  TwoSparkles   Mar-02-05 02:48 PM   #60 
  - Thank you for "getting it."  Ripley   Mar-02-05 02:53 PM   #63 
  - Of course it is obvious from my posts here i do not understand it either.  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 03:13 PM   #75 
  - History has shown  Tempest   Mar-02-05 02:59 PM   #67 
  - I hear what you are saying...  TwoSparkles   Mar-02-05 03:18 PM   #80 
  - Here is a BBC link:  Ripley   Mar-02-05 03:23 PM   #82 
  - Something else research has shown  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:46 PM   #92 
  - CONVICTION LIST:  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 05:00 PM   #168 
  - "the outraged disbelief"  Minstrel Boy   Mar-02-05 03:17 PM   #79 
  - I do understand the "outraged disbelief"...  TwoSparkles   Mar-02-05 03:30 PM   #85 
  - Umm...  girl gone mad   Mar-02-05 06:28 PM   #137 
  - As myself and others have clearly pointed out  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:50 PM   #94 
     - But, this wasn't "ritualistic child abuse...as you keep saying!  TwoSparkles   Mar-02-05 04:30 PM   #112 
        - The word ritual is appropriate  Tempest   Mar-02-05 04:54 PM   #118 
           - I'm getting you now---  TwoSparkles   Mar-02-05 05:06 PM   #123 
              - It's not just the Stoll/Modall case  Tempest   Mar-02-05 05:47 PM   #128 
  - This doesn't raise any suspicions in your mind:  girl gone mad   Mar-02-05 06:45 PM   #138 
  - Could you please tell me if THIS article mentions Satanic rituals or...  mordarlar   Mar-02-05 03:16 PM   #78 
  - No, it doesn't  Tempest   Mar-02-05 03:52 PM   #95 
     - But you can't dismiss the validity of these allegations...  TwoSparkles   Mar-02-05 04:39 PM   #114 
        - I was not INSISTING the allegations are false.  Bridget Burke   Mar-02-05 04:47 PM   #116 
        - I think we all understand that the case is incomplete...  TwoSparkles   Mar-02-05 04:56 PM   #119 
           - You can't be talking about me  Tempest   Mar-02-05 05:56 PM   #132 
              - so you say there are organized child sex rings,  retnavyliberal   Mar-02-05 07:08 PM   #139 
                 - This may help you to understand why:  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 12:46 PM   #165 
        - Unlike some here, I'm not going to convict them before the trial  Tempest   Mar-02-05 05:54 PM   #131 
           - Here are some facts, government ties:  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 04:21 PM   #166 
  - WTF is up with these people?  kilgore65   Mar-02-05 04:22 PM   #108 
  - man...i wish i didn't read that  Blue_Tires   Mar-02-05 07:20 PM   #141 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-02-05 07:32 PM   #142 
  - two cents here, excuse me...  roscoeroscoe   Mar-03-05 01:23 AM   #154 
  - please weigh the fact that a tragically low number of these  jdj   Mar-03-05 05:08 PM   #170 
     - You bet they're not reported!  Megahurtz   Mar-03-05 07:20 PM   #171 
        - So once again a poster decides to imply that..  girl gone mad   Mar-03-05 07:25 PM   #172 
  - Today's BBC News update:Child sex trial opens in France  emad   Mar-03-05 07:30 AM   #156 
  - In analyzing this case...  kilgore65   Mar-03-05 07:26 PM   #173 
 

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