| 85. Unfortunately, this is yet another development that favors Bush... |
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........and the Repukes just as the scenes of the purple-fingered citizens of Iraq gave him and his cabal of commercial criminals a big boost.
He'll take credit for what appears to be a sea-change now occurring in the Middle East.
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| -Lebanon's government is to resign - BBC |
peacebird |
Feb-28-05 11:25 AM |
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No don't give into Bush |
ECH1969 |
Feb-28-05 11:27 AM |
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What does that mean? |
Bleachers7 |
Feb-28-05 11:33 AM |
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Your probably right |
ECH1969 |
Feb-28-05 11:35 AM |
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Wasn't that an eye-opening yet obvious statement he made? |
Roland99 |
Feb-28-05 11:49 AM |
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"after the Syrians killed a Lebanese leader." Hope you're never a judge. |
LynnTheDem |
Feb-28-05 02:15 PM |
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Thanks for proving me wrong. |
Bleachers7 |
Feb-28-05 02:57 PM |
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Feb-28-05 03:02 PM |
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Where's your proof? |
Bleachers7 |
Feb-28-05 03:09 PM |
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There have only been speculation and assertions about Syria,... |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 03:11 PM |
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Feb-28-05 03:33 PM |
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Well, we've got pro-bush, get on board with PNAC stuff on this thread. |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 03:43 PM |
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Yes I saw the PNAC posts. |
LynnTheDem |
Feb-28-05 03:47 PM |
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There is a difference between a being guilty without a shred of proof |
Bleachers7 |
Feb-28-05 04:02 PM |
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Why don't you detail the difference between assertions, process,... |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 08:35 PM |
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lol |
Bleachers7 |
Feb-28-05 04:00 PM |
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You haven't showed a shred of evidence of your point of view |
Bleachers7 |
Feb-28-05 04:00 PM |
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NO dear. |
LynnTheDem |
Feb-28-05 04:09 PM |
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Where is YOUR proof that Syrians did it? |
LynnTheDem |
Feb-28-05 03:18 PM |
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It's weak but it's something |
Bleachers7 |
Feb-28-05 03:54 PM |
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Feb-28-05 04:05 PM |
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You said that you don't agree with my assertion. |
Bleachers7 |
Feb-28-05 04:06 PM |
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Good fucking grief. I DID NOT say Syria didn't do it. |
LynnTheDem |
Feb-28-05 04:17 PM |
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well, sinc e this isn't a court of law who do you think did it? |
VirginiaDem |
Feb-28-05 06:15 PM |
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The RULE OF LAW still applies. Or,...are you against the RULE OF LAW? |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 06:24 PM |
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Call me whatever you want but I just read your posts |
VirginiaDem |
Feb-28-05 09:48 PM |
#191 |
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You're so sweet. Do you support the "rule of law" or not? |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 10:38 PM |
#196 |
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What is the "rule of law" and how does it apply to the current |
VirginiaDem |
Mar-01-05 06:08 AM |
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Without making flat assertions... |
LynnTheDem |
Feb-28-05 06:53 PM |
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Good lawd,...Syria has been walking on eggshells knowing PNAC. |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 08:59 PM |
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I'll take the Syrians over the man in the moon anyday and I don't |
VirginiaDem |
Feb-28-05 09:58 PM |
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Absolutely agree. Thank you... |
Colorado Blue |
Feb-28-05 04:30 PM |
#157 |
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??? Side with Syria because Bush doens't like them?? |
underthedome |
Feb-28-05 11:33 AM |
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The Lebanese government is a puppet |
Poppyseedman |
Feb-28-05 11:38 AM |
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Lebanese people: see below |
Capt_Nemo |
Feb-28-05 11:43 AM |
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You may be right about civil war |
Poppyseedman |
Feb-28-05 11:49 AM |
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yeah rogue states like the Aggressor States of America |
Capt_Nemo |
Feb-28-05 11:55 AM |
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"Rogue states" is definitely a quote from the Chimp in chief. |
The Stranger |
Feb-28-05 12:22 PM |
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a bit of good luck |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 12:51 PM |
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The Neocons are using this against Syria. |
The Stranger |
Feb-28-05 12:19 PM |
#54 |
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a bit of good luck |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 12:50 PM |
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Not sure if you are implying anything |
Poppyseedman |
Feb-28-05 02:13 PM |
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fucking amazing |
agitpropagent9 |
Feb-28-05 11:58 AM |
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PNAC, PNAC, PNAC, PNAC, PNAC, PNAC, PNAC, PNAC, PNAC. |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 12:12 PM |
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well i can see you've thought this through. |
agitpropagent9 |
Feb-28-05 12:16 PM |
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Yep. For several years I have been thinking this through. |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 12:18 PM |
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i think we can agree on that. however... |
agitpropagent9 |
Feb-28-05 12:22 PM |
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What I see is an assassination by an unknown assailant leading to,... |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 12:28 PM |
#63 |
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Hariri was the opposition |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 12:47 PM |
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Not from what I am reading. What I am reading is that Hariri's,... |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 12:50 PM |
#83 |
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popular, and the opposition |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 12:54 PM |
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Five minutes ago, you said you had no idea whether he was popular. |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 01:00 PM |
#90 |
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Bear in mind that Karimi is/was pro-Syrian |
Vladimir |
Feb-28-05 12:50 PM |
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Thank you for the additional information. |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 12:58 PM |
#88 |
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Sometimes people benefit from good luck |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 12:59 PM |
#89 |
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If they are involved in the assassination of Hariri and the country,... |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 01:03 PM |
#95 |
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From what I hear, the Lebanese feel very united |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 01:07 PM |
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Serbia in 2000? |
Vladimir |
Feb-28-05 01:13 PM |
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80's |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 01:13 PM |
#108 |
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Civil war's possible. |
igil |
Feb-28-05 01:23 PM |
#114 |
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Like the Bob Dylan song "Idiot Wind" says |
daleo |
Feb-28-05 01:24 PM |
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With any luck, the Lebanese |
Vladimir |
Feb-28-05 01:06 PM |
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Sounds like something that happened a couple decades ago. |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 01:08 PM |
#104 |
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Not "who most benefits?", but "Who thought they'd benefit?" |
igil |
Feb-28-05 01:25 PM |
#118 |
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Oh well...in that case I should support puppet dictatorships |
theboss |
Feb-28-05 01:03 PM |
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So Syria should remain in control of Lebanon? |
theboss |
Feb-28-05 01:02 PM |
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Feb-28-05 11:09 PM |
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So, how will this play out? |
chicagojoe |
Feb-28-05 11:28 AM |
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Two words: |
Capt_Nemo |
Feb-28-05 11:31 AM |
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What the hell is happening? |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 11:29 AM |
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The people decided to throw the government out. |
Bleachers7 |
Feb-28-05 11:33 AM |
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May I put it to you |
Capt_Nemo |
Feb-28-05 11:41 AM |
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It appears to me that PNAC is unfolding. |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 11:52 AM |
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errrr, yes. |
rukkyg |
Feb-28-05 11:31 AM |
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Feb-28-05 11:38 AM |
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Yeah but there are some here that still believe all the MSM feeds them |
Capt_Nemo |
Feb-28-05 11:44 AM |
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I wonder what will happen 5 or 10 years from now when US still occupies,. |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 11:56 AM |
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Well before that the US will be bankrupt... |
Capt_Nemo |
Feb-28-05 11:57 AM |
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And you can't fotget the tinfoil hat wackos running theories. |
Bleachers7 |
Feb-28-05 12:00 PM |
#28 |
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Are you implying |
Poppyseedman |
Feb-28-05 11:52 AM |
#18 |
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Yes, it has their footprints all over |
Capt_Nemo |
Feb-28-05 11:56 AM |
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Who really murdered Rafik Hariri? Who did it most benefit? |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 11:59 AM |
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It Would Seem, Ma'am |
The Magistrate |
Feb-28-05 12:41 PM |
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I think they will try to take advantage of this to further their agenda. |
Bleachers7 |
Feb-28-05 12:01 PM |
#29 |
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That's open to speculation... |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 12:11 PM |
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Quit the dumb conspiracy theories |
simcha_6 |
Feb-28-05 01:18 PM |
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I agree, thank you. nt |
Colorado Blue |
Mar-01-05 12:07 AM |
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Bullshit (nt). |
JohnLocke |
Feb-28-05 11:10 PM |
#199 |
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Why are you guys being so negative??? |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 11:58 AM |
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I have not been attacking but... |
Bleachers7 |
Feb-28-05 11:59 AM |
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I think you meant to say credit |
Norquist Nemesis |
Feb-28-05 12:11 PM |
#42 |
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Look if they want to take credit for this... |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 12:15 PM |
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Don't think I said anything about Iraq. |
Norquist Nemesis |
Feb-28-05 12:17 PM |
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Being realistic and knowledgeable is not being negative. |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 12:00 PM |
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Feb-28-05 12:03 PM |
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Those who didn't believe the truth concerning Iraq were being naive. |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 12:05 PM |
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"Now Christians, Muslims, Druze and Armenians are all united |
Capt_Nemo |
Feb-28-05 12:06 PM |
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True |
tinonedown |
Feb-28-05 12:05 PM |
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Because what you call the lebanese people |
Capt_Nemo |
Feb-28-05 12:02 PM |
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Feb-28-05 12:04 PM |
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no, but I know history |
Capt_Nemo |
Feb-28-05 12:07 PM |
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The country has changed. |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 12:09 PM |
#39 |
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Well, you may excuse me but I'm a bit skeptical of your heresay |
Capt_Nemo |
Feb-28-05 12:15 PM |
#47 |
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My barber is Lebanese |
daleo |
Feb-28-05 01:31 PM |
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Juan Cole has it too. |
seafan |
Feb-28-05 12:06 PM |
#35 |
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Lebanese people changing without "help" from PNAC, good. |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 12:08 PM |
#38 |
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*LOL* your "talking points" are sounding vewy familiar. |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 12:11 PM |
#40 |
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Yea sure |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 12:12 PM |
#43 |
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We have faith in Lebaniese |
Norquist Nemesis |
Feb-28-05 12:15 PM |
#46 |
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Nothing wrong with that.. |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 12:17 PM |
#50 |
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Where did I say ANYTHING about Iraq on this thread? |
Norquist Nemesis |
Feb-28-05 12:19 PM |
#53 |
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Sorry, but... |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 12:20 PM |
#56 |
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No NeoCONS here |
Norquist Nemesis |
Feb-28-05 12:29 PM |
#65 |
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There have been many popular revolts in the Middle East |
Vladimir |
Feb-28-05 12:25 PM |
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xavier86......take heart.. |
pelsar |
Feb-28-05 12:29 PM |
#64 |
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Your profile indicates you live in Israel. |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 12:32 PM |
#66 |
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israel... |
pelsar |
Feb-28-05 12:35 PM |
#67 |
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Is your press as "free" as ours? *smile* eom |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 12:39 PM |
#70 |
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our press |
pelsar |
Feb-28-05 12:42 PM |
#76 |
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We don't have a "press" anymore. Just entertainment, obsession,... |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 01:07 PM |
#101 |
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I live in Cyprus. |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 12:40 PM |
#72 |
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I'm sure you do think you know more and that you do think you are "right". |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 12:16 PM |
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Oh, my,...testy, testy. I'm not an asshole and PNAC is NOT a conspiracy. |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 12:22 PM |
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Feb-28-05 12:24 PM |
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Who assassinated Hariri? |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 12:37 PM |
#68 |
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Syrian intelligence |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 12:40 PM |
#71 |
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Where's the evidence? |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 05:20 PM |
#169 |
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Who killed Hariri? |
AngryAmish |
Feb-28-05 12:21 PM |
#57 |
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Are Democrats not allowed to celebrate this? |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 12:37 PM |
#69 |
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Wasn't Hariri a very popular figure in Lebanon? |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 12:41 PM |
#73 |
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don't know for sure |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 12:42 PM |
#75 |
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Well, geez, you're certain about who's responsible for his death,... |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 12:49 PM |
#80 |
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Are you Greek or Turkish? |
Bleachers7 |
Feb-28-05 12:45 PM |
#77 |
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American |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 12:48 PM |
#79 |
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YES. But sometimes I wonder. I wonder if Democrats, |
Colorado Blue |
Mar-01-05 12:15 AM |
#203 |
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Unfortunately, this is yet another development that favors Bush... |
Blue to the bone |
Feb-28-05 12:52 PM |
#85 |
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So you'd rather there was still dictatorship? |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 12:57 PM |
#87 |
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Where did I say that? |
Blue to the bone |
Feb-28-05 01:01 PM |
#92 |
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xavier..... |
pelsar |
Feb-28-05 01:05 PM |
#99 |
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"that irritates some far more than having a country free.... " |
Minstrel Boy |
Feb-28-05 04:59 PM |
#165 |
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Shhhhh,...we're not supposed to talk about permanent US military presence. |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 05:35 PM |
#172 |
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I think this "sea-change" is quite illusory |
Vladimir |
Feb-28-05 01:00 PM |
#91 |
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You're entitled to your opinion, but I believe that the average.... |
Blue to the bone |
Feb-28-05 01:03 PM |
#96 |
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The M.E. sure as hell didn't tolerate imperialism before,... |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 01:20 PM |
#112 |
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Profound |
magellan |
Mar-01-05 12:20 AM |
#204 |
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change was inevitable |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 01:04 PM |
#97 |
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We can agree to disagree on Lebanon....... |
Blue to the bone |
Feb-28-05 01:07 PM |
#103 |
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Change was not inevitable |
madmom2005 |
Feb-28-05 02:10 PM |
#129 |
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According to Walid Jumblatt, you're wrong Xavier...... |
Blue to the bone |
Feb-28-05 04:24 PM |
#155 |
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some kind of news reporter? |
pelsar |
Feb-28-05 01:10 PM |
#105 |
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Question our previous beliefs?.....EXACTLY!!! |
Blue to the bone |
Feb-28-05 01:11 PM |
#106 |
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Since when does turmoil imply violence exactly? |
Vladimir |
Feb-28-05 01:20 PM |
#111 |
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vladimir |
pelsar |
Feb-28-05 01:24 PM |
#115 |
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I think you are right - some folks don't want to have to |
Colorado Blue |
Mar-01-05 12:22 AM |
#205 |
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This is fucking exciting |
theboss |
Feb-28-05 01:05 PM |
#98 |
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Debkafile says |
simcha_6 |
Feb-28-05 01:14 PM |
#109 |
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Yeah, but, doncha' see: "Freedom is on the march" and all that. |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 01:23 PM |
#113 |
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Actually, yes. Freedom does appear to be on the march.... |
Blue to the bone |
Feb-28-05 01:24 PM |
#117 |
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Democratc/progressives have to stand FOR something |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 01:34 PM |
#120 |
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You have made your pro-Bush stance quite clear in an earlier post. |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 01:35 PM |
#121 |
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Just Me....how about an actual IDEA instead of gloom and doom? |
Blue to the bone |
Feb-28-05 01:38 PM |
#122 |
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I'm too fucking busy fighting the neoCON's DARK WORLD VIEW,... |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 05:57 PM |
#174 |
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You've made your anti-Progressive stance pretty clear too |
xavier86 |
Feb-28-05 01:40 PM |
#123 |
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You're wasting your breath Xavier........ |
Blue to the bone |
Feb-28-05 01:45 PM |
#124 |
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Progressives Pay For Negativity |
madmom2005 |
Feb-28-05 01:54 PM |
#125 |
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There is a lot of skepticism |
Bleachers7 |
Feb-28-05 01:57 PM |
#127 |
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Sorry, we've known Bush too long. |
Bridget Burke |
Feb-28-05 03:39 PM |
#139 |
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Awesome post, thanks. nt |
Colorado Blue |
Mar-01-05 12:24 AM |
#206 |
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Let's just see how it plays out, and hope for the best........ |
grumpy old fart |
Feb-28-05 01:54 PM |
#126 |
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Lebanese BG |
madmom2005 |
Feb-28-05 01:58 PM |
#128 |
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What news have you been raeding? |
plasticsundance |
Feb-28-05 03:38 PM |
#138 |
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What news? |
madmom2005 |
Feb-28-05 03:56 PM |
#145 |
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Not sure you comprehended my post |
plasticsundance |
Feb-28-05 04:09 PM |
#152 |
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and which side would that be? |
Don Claybrook |
Feb-28-05 04:41 PM |
#162 |
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If your question was directed at me.... |
Blue to the bone |
Feb-28-05 04:46 PM |
#163 |
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Aggressive war and murder is progressive or allows self-determination? |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 08:45 PM |
#185 |
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You are right, it is sick and it must be stopped! |
seriousstan |
Feb-28-05 09:16 PM |
#190 |
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It's not my call. I know I don't deserve any value as some "expert". |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 09:53 PM |
#192 |
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I was asking for your opinion as a mortal, "CALM" ?? lol |
seriousstan |
Feb-28-05 10:10 PM |
#194 |
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Why do you ask me for answers? I ask that we work together. |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 10:49 PM |
#197 |
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already? |
seriousstan |
Feb-28-05 11:55 PM |
#201 |
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Bravo |
rayofreason |
Feb-28-05 09:14 PM |
#189 |
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Agreed. |
Colorado Blue |
Feb-28-05 04:36 PM |
#160 |
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did we kill Rafik Hariri? |
BadGimp |
Feb-28-05 03:50 PM |
#142 |
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Gimpy Speculation? |
madmom2005 |
Feb-28-05 03:53 PM |
#143 |
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I don't know. |
Bleachers7 |
Feb-28-05 04:05 PM |
#150 |
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Pay Attention! |
madmom2005 |
Feb-28-05 04:32 PM |
#158 |
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BWAHAHAHAHA! OMFG!!! The "right" is giving US "target rich zones"! |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 05:46 PM |
#173 |
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It's possible that it came out of the CIA |
Bleachers7 |
Feb-28-05 04:04 PM |
#149 |
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Some Idiots Were Claiming Mossad Was Behind the Recent Club Bombing |
DoveTurnedHawk |
Feb-28-05 04:28 PM |
#156 |
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My humble take |
VermonterInExile |
Feb-28-05 04:33 PM |
#159 |
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Fascinating Read, Thank You (eom) |
DoveTurnedHawk |
Feb-28-05 04:36 PM |
#161 |
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VermonterInExile.....interested in your views about how the elections... |
Blue to the bone |
Feb-28-05 04:55 PM |
#164 |
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Feb-28-05 05:02 PM |
#166 |
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Islam and democracy |
VermonterInExile |
Feb-28-05 06:16 PM |
#176 |
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So--must we destroy Islam to foster "democracy"? |
Bridget Burke |
Mar-01-05 06:22 AM |
#209 |
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Iraqi elections and their effects... |
VermonterInExile |
Feb-28-05 06:24 PM |
#177 |
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We ALL want the power to choose governments that serve our interests. |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 06:41 PM |
#179 |
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I suppose we all have something in common: suspicion of government. |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 05:23 PM |
#170 |
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Excellent - thank you! nm |
hack89 |
Feb-28-05 07:13 PM |
#182 |
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You know... |
simcha_6 |
Feb-28-05 09:00 PM |
#188 |
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There may be some trouble if this ATimes article is right....Nasrullah. |
Gloria |
Feb-28-05 05:17 PM |
#167 |
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Wow, so there's been a Velvet Revolution, an Orange Revolution, now this |
gulfcoastliberal |
Feb-28-05 05:19 PM |
#168 |
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*LOL* Whew, thanks. I needed that ice-breaker!!! |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 05:25 PM |
#171 |
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Excellent news |
Jack Rabbit |
Feb-28-05 06:51 PM |
#180 |
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OMG, freeper, neocon, warmonger |
Bleachers7 |
Feb-28-05 08:36 PM |
#184 |
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After all, dreams are the only thing left that are FREEEEEEE!!! |
Just Me |
Feb-28-05 08:51 PM |
#186 |
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I concur. |
JohnLocke |
Feb-28-05 11:13 PM |
#200 |
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Lebanon Govt. Quits; Pressure Mounts on Syria |
lovuian |
Feb-28-05 10:27 PM |
#195 |
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Lebanese government resigns amid protests |
cal04 |
Mar-01-05 05:26 AM |
#207 |
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Ah ... an American flag |
plasticsundance |
Mar-01-05 09:18 AM |
#210 |
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