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Sun Feb-27-05 08:15 AM
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| 62. Creative, aren't they! n/t |
| -2.4 Million Veterans Will Pay New Fee |
True_Blue |
Feb-26-05 12:19 PM |
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Sounds like a TAX to me. |
alcuno |
Feb-26-05 12:24 PM |
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My thoughts exactly: watch what they do rather than what they say |
indepat |
Feb-26-05 12:58 PM |
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A fee is for actual services rendered. A tax entitles you to nothing*** |
Egalitariat |
Feb-26-05 03:54 PM |
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An enrollment "fee" doesn't get you any services, it gets you enrolled. |
alcuno |
Feb-26-05 04:34 PM |
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Tax gets you nothing? |
eddieb |
Feb-27-05 10:05 AM |
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I said it "entitles" you to nothing |
Egalitariat |
Feb-27-05 03:05 PM |
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Creative, aren't they! n/t |
Paradise |
Feb-27-05 08:15 AM |
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A fee is a tax when the Democrats impose it |
jmowreader |
Feb-27-05 09:01 AM |
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Just another broken promise |
designforce |
Feb-26-05 12:59 PM |
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Bush is Taxing Rich Vets |
eddieb |
Feb-27-05 10:16 AM |
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What make you so sure |
eddieb |
Feb-27-05 10:31 AM |
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My, what unmitigated bastards!!! |
MADem |
Feb-26-05 01:21 PM |
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The gop hates the troops eom |
chimpsrsmarter |
Feb-26-05 01:45 PM |
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Hahaha! and all the conservative web sites that slam us |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Feb-26-05 01:45 PM |
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I believe health care is a right for all |
bluestateguy |
Feb-26-05 01:52 PM |
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Veterans take a kick in the Butt by Bush Ya know what this tells me |
lovuian |
Feb-26-05 01:58 PM |
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Pat them on the back, and screw them at the same time, |
dand |
Feb-26-05 02:11 PM |
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How many Vets will still believe the GOP & dipshit are honest christians? |
LiberalFighter |
Feb-26-05 09:43 PM |
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Well, they cannot take anything more from me since my son is dead. |
The Zanti Regent |
Feb-26-05 02:30 PM |
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Zanti |
Skittles |
Feb-28-05 05:08 AM |
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I can't wait to hear how this is all Clinton's fault. |
tsuki |
Feb-26-05 02:35 PM |
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Let's call it what it is - the Veteran's Tax. |
Steve_DeShazer |
Feb-26-05 02:43 PM |
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Exactly! You'd think we'd be the masters of word usage not the R's. |
alcuno |
Feb-26-05 03:00 PM |
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This isn't a war on language... |
dw |
Feb-26-05 03:22 PM |
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I agree. It's not a war ON language, but it is a war OF language. |
alcuno |
Feb-26-05 04:37 PM |
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Yes! It's the "framing" thing again. |
mwb970 |
Feb-26-05 05:15 PM |
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And they don't take American Express |
Ezlivin |
Feb-26-05 02:44 PM |
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War profiteering At Its Finest And Most Disgusting |
LeaderlessResistance |
Feb-26-05 03:21 PM |
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This won't even raise much money |
daleo |
Feb-26-05 03:27 PM |
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And SOEM reichwingnuts post on DU about how DUers are against the vets |
Walt Starr |
Feb-26-05 03:30 PM |
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Bush's Veterans Tax |
Number9Dream |
Feb-26-05 03:32 PM |
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Military recruitment. |
recovering democrat |
Feb-26-05 03:32 PM |
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We can afford to give Halliburton bonuses |
Mojambo |
Feb-26-05 03:53 PM |
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How do you think they'll spin this? |
El Biggo Doggo |
Feb-26-05 05:19 PM |
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They just don't seem to care about public perception anymore |
Mojambo |
Feb-26-05 05:31 PM |
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I believe that is correct. They are saying |
bearfan454 |
Feb-26-05 05:36 PM |
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Goddamnit ! |
bearfan454 |
Feb-26-05 03:55 PM |
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this is bullshit, but vets voted overwhelmingly.... |
rppper |
Feb-27-05 05:03 AM |
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Could I ask how you know that? After the election, I couldn't |
sfexpat2000 |
Feb-27-05 11:25 AM |
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Veterans reportedly voted 57% Bush. A (not overwhelming) majority. |
Pinboy |
Feb-27-05 06:50 PM |
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Thanks. I thought it was strange that the military vote was not |
sfexpat2000 |
Feb-28-05 04:16 AM |
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"vets voted overwhelmingly ... " You don't KNOW that - stop believing |
ElectroPrincess |
Feb-28-05 05:40 AM |
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You tell it, ElectroPrincess, and thanks for your service |
Pinboy |
Feb-28-05 06:12 AM |
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Back at you Pinboy, & Welcome to DU ... |
ElectroPrincess |
Feb-28-05 06:49 AM |
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Thanks, Princess. Were you Airborne? |
Pinboy |
Feb-28-05 07:05 AM |
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Yes, both my older brother and I are Airborne ... |
ElectroPrincess |
Feb-28-05 07:24 AM |
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This old GI (64) sure as hell didn't vote for Shrub. |
tinnyguy1777 |
Feb-28-05 04:23 PM |
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Well, there goes another incentive to join the military... |
HypnoToad |
Feb-26-05 03:58 PM |
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bush- finding out how many ways you can screw the vets... |
Desertrose |
Feb-26-05 04:21 PM |
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Why would any vet who is "not poor" risk crappy health care from VA? |
Divernan |
Feb-26-05 04:28 PM |
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I don't know but the problem is, should someone like my husband lose |
Bouncy Ball |
Feb-26-05 04:48 PM |
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That's exactly what happened to me Bouncy Ball |
bearfan454 |
Feb-26-05 05:19 PM |
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WHAT? |
Bouncy Ball |
Feb-26-05 05:24 PM |
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Yes that is correct. |
bearfan454 |
Feb-26-05 05:27 PM |
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Yes I know. |
bearfan454 |
Feb-26-05 05:24 PM |
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The Dallas one |
hobbit709 |
Feb-27-05 08:16 AM |
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Answer . . . |
Pinboy |
Feb-26-05 09:41 PM |
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income cut off |
DollyM |
Feb-27-05 02:56 AM |
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Excellent first post and WELCOME to DU |
Divernan |
Feb-27-05 08:19 AM |
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Sarcasm alert! |
Selteri |
Feb-26-05 05:03 PM |
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I was in priority category 7, or 8, I can't remember which, but I had to |
Kimber Scott |
Feb-26-05 05:21 PM |
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Wrap yourself in the flag and shout "Support the Troops" |
Solly Mack |
Feb-26-05 05:24 PM |
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250 bucks is A LOT of money! looks like a deterrant to healthcare to me. |
nashville_brook |
Feb-26-05 07:03 PM |
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That's exactly what it is |
bearfan454 |
Feb-26-05 07:05 PM |
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BINGO! The VA estimates 213,000 vets would disenroll due to the fee |
Pinboy |
Feb-28-05 09:05 PM |
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Chicken Hawks fuck our vets and no one says shit about it. |
Rex |
Feb-26-05 07:11 PM |
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Cannon fodder just like Vietnam. Most people dont give a damn about Vets. |
Conservativesux |
Feb-27-05 06:36 AM |
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It’s not a slam dunk according to “Stars and Stripes” |
sonsera |
Feb-26-05 07:15 PM |
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I sure as hell hope so. |
bearfan454 |
Feb-26-05 10:08 PM |
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I don't find this so unreasonable |
lanlady |
Feb-26-05 07:30 PM |
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I'd like to express myself here, but |
mbperrin |
Feb-26-05 08:51 PM |
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"Subsidizing Vets"? |
Pinboy |
Feb-26-05 09:05 PM |
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Why should your taxes go to "subsidizing" vets? |
NickB79 |
Feb-27-05 04:24 AM |
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sure, like my stepfather |
lanlady |
Feb-28-05 07:47 PM |
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Don't be suckered in by Bush's "not poor" definition! |
Divernan |
Feb-27-05 08:29 AM |
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All I will say is |
LynnTheDem |
Feb-28-05 04:37 AM |
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Rich = $26,000 per family per year? |
Bridget Burke |
Feb-28-05 06:15 AM |
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Good point, Bridget |
Pinboy |
Feb-28-05 06:28 AM |
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all I'm saying |
lanlady |
Feb-28-05 07:25 PM |
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Bush calls it the "Freedom and Liberty fee". Bush loves the troops, |
Guckert |
Feb-26-05 08:36 PM |
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As a Veteran, I find this appalling! bush never had to use VA services. |
rasputin1952 |
Feb-26-05 08:43 PM |
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Bush & Co. feel for veterans like myself.... |
jmcon007 |
Feb-26-05 08:44 PM |
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I do object to people worth millions of dollars using VA for health care. |
jody |
Feb-26-05 09:19 PM |
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NO MILLIONAIRES USE THE VA |
saigon68 |
Feb-28-05 04:25 AM |
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Yep, more troop supporting! |
MsMagnificent |
Feb-27-05 01:35 AM |
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Many, many must sacrifice for the holy tax cuts. n/t |
Xap |
Feb-27-05 07:43 AM |
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There's more behind this than we know. |
napi21 |
Feb-27-05 07:54 AM |
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The amount these vets will have to pay... |
theHandpuppet |
Feb-27-05 08:27 AM |
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This didn't go to a full house and senate vote? |
Bleachers7 |
Feb-27-05 08:31 AM |
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And how many of you want government to run your health care? |
Armin Tamzarian |
Feb-27-05 08:50 AM |
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As opposed to profit driven hospitals & pharmaceutical companies? |
Divernan |
Feb-27-05 09:31 AM |
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Hear, hear. (n/t) |
area51 |
Feb-27-05 10:59 AM |
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PICK ME, PLEASE!!!! |
rooboy |
Feb-28-05 05:32 AM |
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Congrats, mate |
Pinboy |
Feb-28-05 05:46 AM |
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There is actually a cabinet position in our government... |
rooboy |
Feb-28-05 06:03 AM |
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Unfortunately, you can mistreat vets here and still get re-elected . . . |
Pinboy |
Feb-28-05 06:20 AM |
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As opposed to living without ANY health care whatsoever? |
NickB79 |
Feb-28-05 05:41 AM |
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As opposed to HMO's making all the decisions? |
Bridget Burke |
Feb-28-05 06:19 AM |
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republican "supporting the troops"...hold down costs by screwing the vets! |
LynnTheDem |
Feb-28-05 04:28 AM |
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One way to keep costs down is to stop starting wars. n/t |
rooboy |
Feb-28-05 05:28 AM |
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Bu$hco = AntiAmerican..when does the other 50% get it? |
Massachusetts |
Feb-28-05 06:29 AM |
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My dumbass mis-representative at work again. n/t |
Q3JR4 |
Feb-28-05 07:06 PM |
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sounds like a needs test tax (those who can afford will pay tax) |
rodeodance |
Feb-28-05 07:45 PM |
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So This Is A Veterans Tax |
cryingshame |
Feb-28-05 08:47 PM |
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