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70. The actual way the TANG Forgeries happened I believe
A DailyKOS diary nails this one to the wall:

"Gannon was being used by the White House to ID Mapes to send the news media in a certain direction on that story --very similar to showing him the CIA memo on Plame and the Shock and Awe scoop. In all instances, it's Gannon who is given hot information to help orchestrate the story.


Roger & Nydia Stone: The Unknown Man with the Envelope and Lucy Ramirez?

This is why Gannon was used to steer the story toward CBS and away from a rumor that Roger Stone, the GOP operative was responsible. Even Terry McAuliffe repeated the Stone/TANG charge. The WH wanted the press to focus on CBS, not on Roger Stone and who might have forged the documents--for it is a federal crime to forge official documents. Had the press focused on that it might have turned out differently--but the WH with Gannon and Hannity's help made the story the fall of Dan Rather.

We all now know that Bill Burkett says he was told about the TANG documents by a certain "Lucy Ramirez" and that he was given the forgeries by "an unknown man with an envelope" who turned and left after making the hand-off in Houston. Let us consider that Roger Stone, the infamous dirty trickster of the Nixon, Reagan and Bush eras, where he worked with Rove, is well known for forging documents, planting them inside opponent's campaigns and then immediately alerting the press."

That's just the beginning!

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  -Hinchey sees hand of Rove (KKKarl blamed for CBS leak) mdmc  Feb-22-05 06:29 AM   #0 
  - Any snips possible? n/t  tlcandie   Feb-22-05 06:38 AM   #1 
  - Here's a look......  Judi Lynn   Feb-22-05 06:40 AM   #3 
  - Thanks, Judi Lynn! Now to listen to the tape!!  tlcandie   Feb-22-05 06:42 AM   #5 
  - LittleGreenFootballs was part of the original memo operation  starroute   Feb-22-05 12:36 PM   #37 
  - thanks for the peek  mdmc   Feb-25-05 09:11 PM   #79 
  - here's a snip  maddezmom   Feb-22-05 06:42 AM   #6 
  - Hinchey ties Rove to false Bush report  paineinthearse   Feb-23-05 10:20 AM   #56 
  - The actual way the TANG Forgeries happened I believe  Dems Will Win   Feb-23-05 04:52 PM   #70 
  - You need to change the subject line  Moderator   Feb-22-05 06:39 AM   #2 
  - Here is another link  Moderator   Feb-22-05 06:42 AM   #4 
  - Deleted - it's a triplecate  thecorrection   Feb-22-05 06:43 AM   #7 
  - sorry  mdmc   Feb-22-05 06:48 AM   #8 
  - He sure does! My Congressman also- even in this Republican heavy  d.l.Green   Feb-22-05 08:09 AM   #9 
  - Nothing yet on his House website  paineinthearse   Feb-22-05 08:50 AM   #10 
  - DUH!!  winston61   Feb-22-05 08:51 AM   #11 
  - Make them deny it. Then ask if thet would deny it "under oath."  Dr Fate   Feb-22-05 08:56 AM   #12 
  - as if....  piece sine   Feb-22-05 10:28 PM   #46 
     - But any DEM can go on TV and raise the question.  Dr Fate   Feb-23-05 12:04 AM   #48 
        - I would like to see Bush say "I'm not going under oath"  pokercat999   Feb-23-05 07:59 PM   #76 
  - Little Green Footballs  paineinthearse   Feb-22-05 08:56 AM   #13 
  - Found it - audio and transcript  paineinthearse   Feb-22-05 09:00 AM   #14 
     - Zombie's transcript  paineinthearse   Feb-22-05 09:12 AM   #17 
     - No evidence  inslee08   Feb-23-05 04:54 PM   #71 
  - I find it very difficult to believe that Rove is smart enough  ZR2   Feb-22-05 09:01 AM   #15 
  - I would have said the same thing yesterday ...  ElectroPrincess   Feb-22-05 09:22 AM   #18 
  - Does anyone in the Northeast get the Sundance Channel through Adelphia?  Auntie Bush   Feb-22-05 10:08 AM   #24 
  - "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled...."  CanOfWhoopAss   Feb-22-05 10:11 AM   #25 
  - He's not - these are tried and true methods from Lee Atwater. Rove is just  glitch   Feb-22-05 01:05 PM   #40 
  - That's true. Now all we need  Cadence   Feb-23-05 02:24 PM   #62 
     - Free flow of information - and we the people. It's already happening.  glitch   Feb-23-05 06:13 PM   #73 
  - this shit doesn't require much intelligence  IronLionZion   Feb-22-05 04:00 PM   #41 
  - rover is a smart dog and runs a tight  katty   Feb-23-05 03:29 PM   #65 
  - self delete - moved to another thread  paineinthearse   Feb-22-05 09:11 AM   #16 
  - JODY ROSELLE ITHACA has hit Google News  paineinthearse   Feb-22-05 09:29 AM   #19 
  - Media watch  paineinthearse   Feb-22-05 09:49 AM   #22 
     - We need SUPPORTER RESPONSE, TOO, guys:  calimary   Feb-22-05 12:52 PM   #38 
        - I support anyone who points out the truth about this crime family  GetTheRightVote   Feb-22-05 10:18 PM   #45 
        - Just wrote him a thank you note n/t  zalinda   Feb-23-05 07:29 AM   #50 
        - Called. Good idea. n/t  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-05 07:58 AM   #52 
        - Did it. Not sure it worked  Virginian   Feb-23-05 10:17 AM   #55 
        - Support for Hinchey  ChemBob   Feb-23-05 02:01 PM   #60 
           - Welcome to DU Chembob  R Hickey   Feb-23-05 05:07 PM   #72 
  - What does it really matter? Rather still made an ass of himself...  Blue to the bone   Feb-22-05 09:32 AM   #20 
  - That's not the point  paineinthearse   Feb-22-05 09:51 AM   #23 
     - When we've got the MSM whining about bloggers.....  Blue to the bone   Feb-22-05 10:13 AM   #26 
        - I don't know. The way Rather stuck to his guns says something about the  d.l.Green   Feb-23-05 08:05 AM   #53 
           - Very simple to explain his resolve.  Blue to the bone   Feb-23-05 06:35 PM   #74 
  - Well, Duh  shrike   Feb-22-05 09:38 AM   #21 
  - God, I love the Big Mo!  mdmc   Feb-22-05 10:57 AM   #29 
  - Daily Freeman - Hinchey ties Rove to false Bush report  paineinthearse   Feb-22-05 10:27 AM   #27 
  - YES! Investigate this!  Canuckistanian   Feb-22-05 10:30 AM   #28 
  - To believe otherwise, you have to believe Bill Buckley looked...  Junkdrawer   Feb-22-05 11:07 AM   #30 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-22-05 07:25 PM   #42 
     - BTW: s/b "Buckhead"...and I used to have the whole thread archived...  Junkdrawer   Feb-22-05 07:43 PM   #43 
  - Wasn't there speculation that the wife of some FL Repub operative...  Fridays Child   Feb-22-05 11:08 AM   #31 
  - The press is already bush's prostitute, why bother. eom  Democrats_win   Feb-22-05 11:14 AM   #32 
  - Because telling the truth is RIGHT. n/t  Dr Fate   Feb-22-05 11:49 PM   #47 
  - Hinchey is solid and forthright  chlamor   Feb-22-05 11:21 AM   #33 
  - JODY ROSELLE - IJ follow-up: Hinchey remarks draw fire  paineinthearse   Feb-22-05 11:29 AM   #34 
  - Mo! MO! MO !!!  mdmc   Feb-22-05 11:48 AM   #35 
  - Ask Finkelstein About The Swift Boat Liars  ProfessorGAC   Feb-22-05 11:50 AM   #36 
  - YAY!! Many at DU suspected Rove was behind this ...  NVMojo   Feb-22-05 12:59 PM   #39 
  - Those documents are not necessarily false  PurityOfEssence   Feb-22-05 10:10 PM   #44 
  - Yes!!!!!! I was appalled by the whole thing and NOBODY...  Colorado Blue   Feb-23-05 12:32 PM   #58 
  - man, I didn't know this...  mdmc   Feb-23-05 01:50 PM   #59 
  - Correct!  cat_girl25   Feb-23-05 02:44 PM   #63 
  - Make this it's own thread - so I can nominate it for greatest.  glitch   Feb-23-05 03:54 PM   #66 
  - Sounds about right. Be nice to nail the machievel.  Vidar   Feb-23-05 06:38 AM   #49 
  - Like I have always been saying ROVE ROVE ROVE  Callboy   Feb-23-05 07:39 AM   #51 
  - So what is the story?  2diagnosis   Feb-23-05 09:02 AM   #54 
  - Forging government documents has to be a crime I would think.  MidwestTransplant   Feb-23-05 11:03 AM   #57 
  - Did anyone ever track down Lucy Ramirez?  Kilroy003   Feb-23-05 02:01 PM   #61 
  - Hinchey's comments quoted in Variety today  katty   Feb-23-05 03:22 PM   #64 
  - Rove fingered over fake documents behind CBS story  lovuian   Feb-23-05 04:33 PM   #67 
  - Good!  tridim   Feb-23-05 04:33 PM   #68 
  - noting while he has no proof of Rove's involvement in the discredited fake  seriousstan   Feb-23-05 04:33 PM   #69 
     - We should hold ourselves to the same standard of proof....  Blue to the bone   Feb-23-05 08:24 PM   #77 
  - Woodruff interview video  paineinthearse   Feb-23-05 07:09 PM   #75 
     - How's this speculation? Did Rove shoot JFK? n/t  Blue to the bone   Feb-23-05 08:27 PM   #78 

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