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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:02 AM
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77. That's a max no payload range
But essentially you're right. US pilots flew A4s to Israel in the 1973 war by crossing the Atlantic. They needed external fuel stores and to rendezvous with tankers in mid Atlantic. Generally A4s have about a 500 nm radius for tactical strikes. They could have extra fuel tanks which could be removed on landing at American bases in Iraq and their weapons payload could be uploaded at that point by American crews.
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  -Ritter Says U.S. Plans June Attack On Iran, 'Cooked' Iraqi Elections Lori Price CLG  Feb-20-05 08:59 PM   #0 
  - Beam me up Scotty!!! I think your right on!!! Chalabi the winner???  lovuian   Feb-20-05 09:01 PM   #1 
  - Yeah, that was a big bleeping *surprise*, wasn't it? LOL! n/t  Lori Price CLG   Feb-20-05 09:02 PM   #2 
  - Can't wait to see the Hersh article...  smoogatz   Feb-20-05 09:11 PM   #4 
  - I saw Hersh on the Daily Show......  William Bloode   Feb-20-05 09:51 PM   #21 
  - Remember, Ritter was right on Iraq and WMD. He has credibility  hector459   Feb-21-05 10:29 AM   #108 
     - The largest world-wide protests in human history took place,...  Just Me   Feb-21-05 08:18 PM   #146 
  - The Hersh article...  detroitguy   Feb-20-05 10:20 PM   #38 
  - just like Unocal Karzai in Afghanistan  arcane1   Feb-21-05 02:18 AM   #78 
  - yeah, wasn't he supposed to be in jail for theft or something  barb162   Feb-20-05 11:11 PM   #53 
     - Gave U.S.A. secrets to people in Iran a.k.a. Spying.  mrdmk   Feb-21-05 10:53 AM   #113 
  - I wouldn't doubt Scott Ritter for one minute.  Matilda   Feb-20-05 09:10 PM   #3 
  - Matilda, I'm with you.  Jazzgirl   Feb-20-05 09:46 PM   #18 
  - But the corporate media have bought it, no questions asked.  Matilda   Feb-21-05 12:21 AM   #63 
  - June seems a bit early  radfringe   Feb-21-05 03:40 AM   #86 
  - June?  trapper914   Feb-21-05 07:48 AM   #94 
  - Weather doesn't matter...  spinbaby   Feb-21-05 08:36 AM   #99 
  - It's the beginning of the US summer driving season.  jpak   Feb-21-05 12:07 PM   #121 
     - is it you mr bush??  egoprofit   Feb-21-05 02:51 PM   #136 
  - June isn't too soon, because  IanDB1   Feb-21-05 07:59 AM   #95 
  - Will the public be stupid enough to buy into THIS war too?!  renaissanceguy   Feb-21-05 08:40 AM   #101 
     - they'll buy it -- if the product is in a new bright and shiny package  radfringe   Feb-22-05 02:52 AM   #147 
  - I agree..  nascarblue   Feb-23-05 04:19 AM   #175 
  - KICK  PROGRESSIVE1   Feb-20-05 09:13 PM   #5 
  - I wonder why June. They usually wait until Oct because it's cooler.  FloridaPat   Feb-20-05 09:20 PM   #6 
  - I thought about that, too... not sure why June is the 'target' date. n/t  Lori Price CLG   Feb-20-05 09:23 PM   #8 
  - summner is the best time to roll out a "new product"  arcane1   Feb-21-05 02:20 AM   #79 
  - Yep. June is the hottest. But seeing as how we got no people  lizzy   Feb-20-05 09:27 PM   #9 
  - That's what I was thinking.....  Blue to the bone   Feb-20-05 10:42 PM   #45 
     - that and having God on their side *eom*  American liberal   Feb-21-05 07:49 PM   #143 
  - They released a statement the other day saying Iran would have nuclear  Lone_Star_Dem   Feb-20-05 09:32 PM   #11 
  - Good point regarding the nuke reactor completion tie-in! n/t  Lori Price CLG   Feb-21-05 11:51 AM   #119 
  - my thought exactly - 6 months to bomb capability, 5 months to war  peacebird   Feb-21-05 02:23 PM   #132 
  - Timetable Is Being Driven By Fueling The Reactor At Bushehr  loindelrio   Feb-20-05 09:55 PM   #26 
  - Bombers have climate control... we wont send ground forces till later..  Griffy   Feb-20-05 11:16 PM   #54 
  - Why wait til June? Strike Apr. 15 that way they can hit everyone at once  Barkley   Feb-21-05 01:37 AM   #74 
  - Marching orders from the east and west  mrdmk   Feb-21-05 10:49 AM   #112 
  - Doubling the soldiers in Afghanistan, mmm...  leesa   Feb-21-05 11:37 AM   #116 
  - Geography helps  Politicub   Feb-22-05 09:23 PM   #165 
  - Don't forget the Trans-Afghan pipeline  nascarblue   Feb-23-05 04:28 AM   #176 
  - June is when the air war starts.  Sterling   Feb-22-05 06:10 PM   #158 
  - I would guess that has alot to do with Bush's European tour.  nascarblue   Feb-23-05 04:37 AM   #177 
  - I knew this was coming.  Delphinus   Feb-20-05 09:20 PM   #7 
  - add Venuzuela into that mix  arcane1   Feb-21-05 02:23 AM   #81 
     - And yesterday Chavez said some hardcore things about Bush  meganmonkey   Feb-21-05 08:13 AM   #98 
     - yup, and here's their "intelligence" to justify the invasion  Merrick   Feb-22-05 08:22 PM   #162 
  - Interesting comments  Holland   Feb-20-05 09:31 PM   #10 
  - What you mean is no rational person would attack Iran.  lizzy   Feb-20-05 09:34 PM   #12 
  - It is not just rationality  Holland   Feb-20-05 09:51 PM   #20 
     - What I'm afraid of is another LIHOP or MIHOP attack on US soil that will  bunny planet   Feb-20-05 11:41 PM   #59 
     - Agreed. n/t  Delphinus   Feb-21-05 06:57 AM   #90 
     - Hence, all the terra warnings lately,  louis-t   Feb-21-05 12:39 PM   #124 
     - Yes-- if there's anyone who balks at an invasion, I would bet  ailsagirl   Feb-22-05 08:46 PM   #163 
     - bush definitely wants to go after Iran, and he is not known for letting  peacebird   Feb-22-05 08:19 AM   #149 
  - I know I felt the same way about Iraq!!! No rational person would  lovuian   Feb-20-05 09:38 PM   #14 
  - Like father like son  Holland   Feb-20-05 09:56 PM   #27 
  - The key word is "rational"-- none of the neocons are  ailsagirl   Feb-22-05 08:47 PM   #164 
  - The Neocons want total war.  TexasLawyer   Feb-20-05 09:45 PM   #17 
  - No country was willing to stand up, really stand up, for Iraq  Holland   Feb-20-05 09:58 PM   #30 
  - You're right on what Hersh said. What really has me worried is this:  reprobate   Feb-21-05 12:15 PM   #122 
  - I am surprised Scott Ritter would be trusted to present this to the world"  bpilgrim   Feb-20-05 09:52 PM   #22 
  - Because he has no credibility  Holland   Feb-20-05 10:02 PM   #31 
     - "Only a naysayer after the fact"  Donailin   Feb-20-05 10:29 PM   #41 
     - I believe you are mistaken about Ritter.  realpolitik   Feb-21-05 08:10 AM   #97 
     - hmmmm....considering he was right about everything in Iraq, I'm willing  Lerkfish   Feb-21-05 10:35 AM   #110 
     - Clarify that.  melv   Feb-22-05 01:58 PM   #155 
     - "No credibility?" Name one single thing he was wrong about. Just one.  TankLV   Feb-22-05 06:32 PM   #160 
     - Sorry but Ritter  mmonk   Feb-22-05 09:38 PM   #166 
  - You do know  AG78   Feb-20-05 09:54 PM   #25 
  - Aside from the last bit about self-made destruction  Holland   Feb-20-05 10:11 PM   #33 
     - You are over estimating Russia and China's  Sterling   Feb-22-05 06:20 PM   #159 
  - Think "nucular"  Prisoner_Number_Six   Feb-20-05 09:58 PM   #28 
  - Actually, think thermo-nuclear  Holland   Feb-20-05 10:14 PM   #35 
  - You are making several assumptions that you have no basis for.  Dhalgren   Feb-20-05 10:59 PM   #48 
     - Perhaps the plan is to have Israel bomb Iran again, covert operations of  bunny planet   Feb-20-05 11:52 PM   #61 
     - all it takes in one (more) LIHOP to give them all they need  arcane1   Feb-21-05 02:27 AM   #82 
  - Fucking scary times we live in.  renaissanceguy   Feb-21-05 08:38 AM   #100 
  - As I remember it Scott  hiley   Feb-21-05 12:52 AM   #69 
  - IOW you trust Bush* over Scott Ritter  Toots   Feb-21-05 09:56 AM   #105 
  - Cooked results  Toucano   Feb-20-05 09:37 PM   #13 
  - I fully expect Israel to bomb the Iranian reactors in June.  The Zanti Regent   Feb-20-05 09:39 PM   #15 
  - no way... Israel has no intention of doing that...  Griffy   Feb-20-05 11:20 PM   #55 
  - OMG! I had to read your post twice. It really hit me hard!  fooj   Feb-21-05 02:22 AM   #80 
  - Israel doesn't have the ability to bomb Iran  Zynx   Feb-20-05 11:51 PM   #60 
     - That doesn't seem to be the case.  ProgressiveConn   Feb-21-05 01:43 AM   #75 
     - That's a max no payload range  teryang   Feb-21-05 02:02 AM   #77 
     - Israeli planes could refuel in Iraq  teryang   Feb-21-05 01:58 AM   #76 
     - Unfortunately, It Appears That They Do  loindelrio   Feb-21-05 07:44 AM   #93 
     - That's a stripped down radius, not for this sort of heavy strike mission  Zynx   Feb-21-05 11:45 AM   #118 
     - Some Israelis are worried about this.  eridani   Feb-23-05 03:54 AM   #171 
     - But the US could refuel Israeli aircraft as they cross Iraqi air space  IndianaGreen   Feb-21-05 12:44 PM   #125 
     - you gotta be kidding me  MakeItSo   Feb-22-05 11:17 PM   #170 
  - The invasion is scheduled for June because it takes that long...  whistle   Feb-20-05 09:45 PM   #16 
  - this is all shocking news to who??? n/t  shadowknows69   Feb-20-05 09:48 PM   #19 
  - I have a friend from Iran  Dirty Hippie   Feb-20-05 09:53 PM   #23 
  - Ask her about the Christian Iranians here in the US  CAcyclist   Feb-20-05 11:29 PM   #57 
  - All of us are sick with worry - here or there. n/t  distantearlywarning   Feb-21-05 08:10 AM   #96 
  - Yes they will bomb targets  confludemocrat   Feb-20-05 09:53 PM   #24 
  - We have troops all around the area  mmonk   Feb-20-05 09:58 PM   #29 
  - The Soviet Union Was On The Verge Of Failing Late 30s/Early 40's  loindelrio   Feb-20-05 10:17 PM   #36 
  - How would Ritter know any inside information?  SheepBootHero   Feb-20-05 10:10 PM   #32 
  - Uh, b/c he has total credibility/ ask William Pitt.  Donailin   Feb-20-05 10:14 PM   #34 
  - Mike Moore has credibility too  SheepBootHero   Feb-20-05 10:23 PM   #39 
     - see post 41  Donailin   Feb-20-05 10:35 PM   #43 
     - Hey, SheepBoot.  Dhalgren   Feb-20-05 11:09 PM   #51 
     - IMVHO, Ritter has far more credibility than Mr. Moore, and I am a fan  anarchy1999   Feb-21-05 01:23 PM   #128 
  - He Is One Of The Few Who Called The Iraq WMD Issue Correctly  loindelrio   Feb-20-05 10:31 PM   #42 
  - They actually might be doing just that....  Charles19   Feb-21-05 10:30 AM   #109 
  - Ritter is no repuke chickenhawk armchair philospher the kind that  Hoping4Change   Feb-21-05 11:04 AM   #114 
  - the situation in Iran  kineneb   Feb-20-05 10:19 PM   #37 
  - Everything I Have Read Indicates It Will Be An Air Strike On Nuclear  loindelrio   Feb-20-05 10:43 PM   #46 
     - Don't forget Iran may have Sunburn missiles  kineneb   Feb-20-05 10:52 PM   #47 
        - Yes, The Neo-Cons Always Seem To Forget The 'Enemy' Always Gets A Vote  loindelrio   Feb-20-05 11:10 PM   #52 
  - One Attack Away  earthside   Feb-20-05 10:27 PM   #40 
  - Exactly right. Wonder who they'll 9 \11 this time my $ on  LibertyorDeath   Feb-20-05 11:07 PM   #50 
  - San Francisco is what scares me  arcane1   Feb-21-05 02:35 AM   #83 
  - I have thought about another 'terror attack'  Daphne08   Feb-21-05 01:18 AM   #71 
  - not surprised  yorkiemommie1   Feb-20-05 10:39 PM   #44 
  - This may be the start of WWIII  clem_c_rock   Feb-20-05 11:03 PM   #49 
  - they're bug****ing nuts, all right  yorkiemommie1   Feb-20-05 11:25 PM   #56 
  - Thanks for the Kipling  kineneb   Feb-21-05 12:44 AM   #67 
  - Excellent epitaph to the lot of them! Thanks for posting.nt  glitch   Feb-21-05 10:46 AM   #111 
  - Peak Oil, friend  arcane1   Feb-21-05 02:37 AM   #84 
  - If this really goes down as predicted  American liberal   Feb-21-05 07:55 PM   #145 
  - Just got back from seeing Dahr in Seattle  Barrett808   Feb-20-05 11:38 PM   #58 
  - Dahr has seen it all  hiley   Feb-21-05 12:48 AM   #68 
  - Again, I have doubts about Ritter's credibility.  durutti   Feb-20-05 11:55 PM   #62 
  - How about the credibility of Seymour Hersh?  springhill   Feb-21-05 12:29 AM   #65 
  - Hersh is undoubtedly a journalist of the highest caliber...  durutti   Feb-21-05 09:59 AM   #106 
  - Probably enough worried people in the military--  eridani   Feb-23-05 04:00 AM   #172 
  - No fucking way.  Randi_Listener   Feb-21-05 12:26 AM   #64 
  - Look at this shit.  Randi_Listener   Feb-21-05 12:39 AM   #66 
  - And what if some Russian technicians & consultants..  MnFats   Feb-21-05 01:05 AM   #70 
  - A self-fulfilling prophecy, I think.  daleo   Feb-21-05 01:28 AM   #72 
  - I still think Israel will be pushing the button on this one.  98geoduck   Feb-21-05 01:36 AM   #73 
  - Any chance that B*sh & War Criminal Club will be tried in Germany for War  evolvenow   Feb-21-05 03:14 AM   #85 
  - such poetic justice..  arcane1   Feb-21-05 03:40 AM   #87 
     - ROTFL  malaise   Feb-21-05 04:58 AM   #88 
        - A four front war on Terror?  Disturbed   Feb-21-05 06:40 AM   #89 
  - kick (nt)  4MoreYearsOfHell   Feb-21-05 07:22 AM   #91 
  - June would be an excellent time for Iran to Test the "Sunburn" missile  leftchick   Feb-21-05 07:27 AM   #92 
  - Sunburns won't be a major factor  megatherium   Feb-22-05 07:35 AM   #148 
  - I think you're right.  frankieT   Feb-22-05 01:56 PM   #154 
  - I don't think Bush cares,  Megahurtz   Feb-22-05 12:55 PM   #153 
  - I think Ritter and Hersch are probably right.  davsand   Feb-21-05 08:45 AM   #102 
  - Good Analysis Laura!  Barkley   Feb-21-05 09:38 AM   #103 
  - Iran can make things so much more miserable for us in Iraq  Barrett808   Feb-21-05 09:46 AM   #104 
  - This one will not be limited to the Middle East.  davsand   Feb-21-05 11:56 AM   #120 
  - so what do any of you plan to do with this information?  American liberal   Feb-21-05 12:28 PM   #123 
  - Feel like Cassandra?  davsand   Feb-21-05 12:46 PM   #126 
  - Please excuse my ignorance, Laura...  American liberal   Feb-21-05 07:52 PM   #144 
     - Greek Mythology.  davsand   Feb-22-05 11:12 AM   #150 
  - My marching shoes  sagesnow   Feb-21-05 02:27 PM   #133 
  - Halliburton pulling out of Iran - kinda sums it up, eh?  peacebird   Feb-21-05 02:45 PM   #134 
  - Shia Insurgents  Randi_Listener   Feb-21-05 10:21 AM   #107 
  - Scott Ritter best be careful....  chenGOD   Feb-21-05 11:35 AM   #115 
  - He better start telling it then even more than he has already.  bunny planet   Feb-21-05 04:59 PM   #141 
  - This is really all about oil  cmd   Feb-21-05 11:38 AM   #117 
  - The Site Isn't Coming Up For Me  Khaotic   Feb-21-05 01:09 PM   #127 
  - It's there for me.  reprobate   Feb-21-05 05:59 PM   #142 
  - He better watch his back or he too may "commit suicide".  bamacrat   Feb-21-05 01:45 PM   #129 
  - Things that make you go hummmm.....  doodadem   Feb-21-05 01:46 PM   #130 
  - The cooking was within the bounds of belief  eridani   Feb-23-05 04:08 AM   #173 
  - Strategic Petroleum Reserve Will Be Just About Topped Out In June  loindelrio   Feb-21-05 02:15 PM   #131 
  - I keep wondering what the EEC will do, if we push for war in Iran  Eawyn   Feb-21-05 02:49 PM   #135 
  - I don't see it happening...  Jeff in Cincinnati   Feb-21-05 03:06 PM   #137 
  - Off topic... but CLG founder/chair will be on Scarborough Country Feb. 21  Lori Price CLG   Feb-21-05 04:27 PM   #138 
  - Maybe they bomb from the air and wait for them to cross into  tlcandie   Feb-21-05 04:46 PM   #139 
  - I'll wait and see.  HypnoToad   Feb-21-05 04:55 PM   #140 
  - And the GOP will dismantle SS while we're distracted by Iran  sidpleasant   Feb-22-05 12:24 PM   #151 
  - Bingo  cthrumatrix   Feb-22-05 02:25 PM   #156 
  - Well, we all already knew about  Megahurtz   Feb-22-05 12:36 PM   #152 
  - Kicked, bookmarked, recommended!  robertpaulsen   Feb-22-05 02:30 PM   #157 
  - Kick  Zgrrl   Feb-22-05 08:05 PM   #161 
  - Has Israel used  mmonk   Feb-22-05 09:40 PM   #167 
  - losers all of them, no more wars, many groups working against *  GetTheRightVote   Feb-22-05 09:54 PM   #168 
  - Bush wants Syria too...  Blaq Dem   Feb-22-05 11:14 PM   #169 
     - That was probably Israel  eridani   Feb-23-05 04:09 AM   #174 
        - Muslims usually brag about their killings  Blaq Dem   Feb-24-05 02:31 PM   #178 
 

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