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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:07 AM
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32. I'd say, given the history, that it backfired on all of them....
Since the Eisenhower administration there has been a bottomless pit of money earmarked for the overthrow of the Cuban government and her leader--including trying to starve the general population and strangle the Cuban economy with an embargo that has been continually tightened over the last 40+ years.

In the face of this incredible adversity, Cuba has managed to feed, house, educate and provide healthcare for ALL of its citizens. Chavez is trying to do the same thing for his country. It comes as no surprise that the US now has another bottomless pit of money to try to oust Chavez. After all, Uncle Sam can't have those uppity brown people south of the border demanding basic human rights and taking control of the their own natural resources.

Jimmy Carter is the only president who sought to normalize relations with the island.


Washington, D.C., May 15 The National Security Archive at George Washington University today posted on the Web a declassified Presidential Directive, signed by Jimmy Carter, which stated: I have concluded that we should attempt to achieve normalization of our relations with Cuba. The directive, dated March 15, 1977, shortly after Carter took office, is believed to represent the only time a President has ordered normalization of U.S. relations with Castros Cuba to be an explicit foreign policy goal of the United States.

On May 12, 2002, Carter became the first U.S. President, current or former, to visit Cuba since Castros revolution in 1959. His five-day visit unofficially continues a dialogue that was officially started with the distribution of this two-page document, Presidential Directive/NSC-6, in 1977. Carters effort to set in motion a process which will lead to the reestablishment of diplomatic relations between the United States and Cuba eventually was aborted over Cold War issues such as Cubas involvement in Africa.

While the Carter administrations attempts to improve relations with Cuba are well known, U.S. government documentation recording that effort remains largely classified, noted Peter Kornbluh who directs the Archives Cuba Project. Kornbluh called the presidential directive a pivotal piece of documentation in the hidden history of U.S. efforts to seek a rapprochement with Cuba.

In the context of today's war on terrorism, it is interesting to note the Carter directive's assumption that U.S.-based exile groups were conducting terror attacks against Cuba. The Attorney General should take all necessary steps permitted by law to prevent terrorist or any illegal actions launched from within the United States against Cuba, the directive concluded. /

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