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LinuxInsurgent Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 07:27 PM
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61. i agree with you.
She should have dumped his ass for being a cheater. And...I don't idolize Bill either...he's infinitely better than any Republican president in recent history...but Clinton also had his moments where he catered to the white racist mentality in this country to gain points with the white middle-class that fluctuates between parties. Basically, he's like his wife...political opportunists...the Elite of the Democratic Party. That doesn't mean I don't respect CERTAIN aspects of their governance and actions. But...all I'm asking is to have a balanced appraisal of the Clintons. They are not the messiah, people.

And to answer your question...she didn't leave him to keep her social status as the First Lady of an ex-President...and the political, economic, and social benefits that that relation gives.

She's a political opportunist...a liberal, Democratic socialite of the elite...I really don't understand why people have this messianic vision of Hillary as the messiah of the Left in America.

She's a rich, white woman, with power, status, and control of her affairs...and she uses them as they fit the situation...primarily for her benefit and her legacy. Now...if you ask me, is she better than some Republican socialite...yes, without a doubt. But that doesn't make Hillary Clinton the next great hurrah.

So...let's get a grip, Democrats. Let's work together to push Dean's faction of the Democratic Party and further the power of the grassroots liberals in the country...not sit on our computers defending Democratic elite socialites that spend their hours thinking how they can garner contributions from the same dirty corporations that fund the Republican party, while drinking Merlot in their Southern, Arkansas mansions.
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  - Who's failure?  Skip Intro   Feb-19-05 11:44 AM   #3 
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     - She has to mean *'s.  igil   Feb-19-05 12:02 PM   #10 
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  - the Honorable junior Senator is playing a game  Malva Zebrina   Feb-19-05 11:57 AM   #7 
  - What astounds me  FreedomSpirit   Feb-19-05 08:15 PM   #69 
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  - Maybe she's going full circle? It happens. n/t  Blue to the bone   Feb-19-05 06:12 PM   #43 
  - Agreed 100%! And what's a.........  Blue to the bone   Feb-19-05 06:11 PM   #42 
  - Hillary is characterized  Wright Patman   Feb-19-05 12:29 PM   #13 
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  - Carry on.....n/t  Blue to the bone   Feb-19-05 06:15 PM   #44 
  - The Junior Senator from New York is a MORAN!  PROGRESSIVE1   Feb-19-05 01:44 PM   #15 
  - Okay, is MORAN some sort of..........  Blue to the bone   Feb-19-05 06:15 PM   #45 
     - Yes.  Toucano   Feb-19-05 06:32 PM   #49 
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  - You said it.  Placebo   Feb-19-05 03:43 PM   #24 
  - you think?  leftchick   Feb-19-05 03:43 PM   #25 
  - Folks complain about how certain Democrats should respond in  oasis   Feb-19-05 03:51 PM   #29 
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     - Who would be dumb enough to use Lewinsky in a campaign against Hill?  oasis   Feb-19-05 04:58 PM   #35 
     - why doesn't she talk about that?  pretzel4gore   Feb-19-05 08:23 PM   #71 
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  - Hillary knows that anything she says that can be twisted by the right,  oasis   Feb-19-05 03:53 PM   #30 
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  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-19-05 03:42 PM   #23 
  - That post is an indication of your failure  Toucano   Feb-19-05 03:50 PM   #28 
     - sure...  LinuxInsurgent   Feb-19-05 04:31 PM   #31 
        - Your ignorance of relationships is GROTESQUE!  Toucano   Feb-19-05 05:08 PM   #36 
        - Don't waste you time trying to be rational.  Igotsunshine   Feb-19-05 05:41 PM   #39 
        - to each his own  LinuxInsurgent   Feb-19-05 07:16 PM   #59 
           - No one said Bill was bad and Hillary was good.  Toucano   Feb-19-05 09:39 PM   #74 
              - yeah, but.  LinuxInsurgent   Feb-20-05 07:35 AM   #77 
                 - "she wasn't the wife Bill wanted her to be."  Toucano   Feb-20-05 10:30 AM   #80 
        - free speech.  LinuxInsurgent   Feb-19-05 07:09 PM   #56 
        - Personally, I think Hillary's greatest failure was......  Blue to the bone   Feb-19-05 06:23 PM   #47 
           - What displeases you about one of our nation's BEST presidents ever?  oasis   Feb-19-05 06:45 PM   #50 
           - He was one of our nation's BEST presidents ever.....  Blue to the bone   Feb-19-05 06:54 PM   #54 
              - You don't have to "accept the way he treated his wife and family". Hillary  oasis   Feb-19-05 07:03 PM   #55 
                 - Okay then, I don't accept the way he treated his family....  Blue to the bone   Feb-19-05 07:11 PM   #58 
                 - Bill and Hillary saved the presidency. The voters of the '96 election did  oasis   Feb-19-05 07:23 PM   #60 
                    - yes...on this I agree...  LinuxInsurgent   Feb-19-05 07:33 PM   #63 
                 - yeah...but let's not let her off the hook  LinuxInsurgent   Feb-19-05 07:31 PM   #62 
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                       - I'm not following your logic of how a divorce......  Blue to the bone   Feb-19-05 07:44 PM   #66 
                          - I'm sure you understand that any public condemnation of Bill by Hillary  oasis   Feb-19-05 07:59 PM   #67 
                             - Okay, I'll give on the issue of the polls........  Blue to the bone   Feb-19-05 08:05 PM   #68 
                                - Politicians tend to be ambitious but many are public servants of the  oasis   Feb-19-05 08:16 PM   #70 
           - i agree with you.  LinuxInsurgent   Feb-19-05 07:27 PM   #61 
              - What you say here:  Blue to the bone   Feb-19-05 07:40 PM   #65 
                 - well...your miles ahead than some of the Hillary Taliban here....  LinuxInsurgent   Feb-20-05 07:11 AM   #76 
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  - Yeah, and the police pull me over because they peceive their power  DS1   Feb-19-05 05:46 PM   #40 
  - and people wonder why I ...  sendero   Feb-19-05 06:49 PM   #51 
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  - Hillary Clinton is just another politician..  Disturbed   Feb-19-05 08:55 PM   #73 
  - How Much  skeeters   Feb-19-05 08:44 PM   #72 
  - THANK GOD that Dean will be giving OUR party a SPINE.  spanone   Feb-20-05 08:34 AM   #78 
  - I smell Freedom, don't you ???? or is it Liberty?? i can't tell....  Guckert   Feb-20-05 11:11 AM   #82 

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