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161. Evangelicals are not necessarily Fundamentalists.

Keep the terms straight.
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  -Evangelicals feel they're misunderstood (AP) wildflower  Feb-12-05 02:22 PM   #0 
  - I have noted the difference between fundamentalists and  murielm99   Feb-12-05 02:24 PM   #1 
  - Which ones are preferable?  coloradodem2005   Feb-12-05 02:33 PM   #7 
  - Evangelicals are. Evangelicals can be of *any* political persuasion.  w4rma   Feb-12-05 05:37 PM   #59 
  - Can someone explain this in finer detail to me. Falwell, et al, claim  VegasWolf   Feb-13-05 01:25 PM   #129 
     - There are many differences, actually  knitter4democracy   Feb-14-05 07:47 PM   #187 
  - Neither!  aikido15   Feb-14-05 11:43 AM   #174 
  - it is not well received for this reason  amazona   Feb-12-05 05:58 PM   #64 
  - You "proselytize" Democratic policy and the Democratic Party, I hope  w4rma   Feb-12-05 06:36 PM   #71 
  - It's impossible to have an intelligent discussion of religion on DU.  QC   Feb-12-05 06:36 PM   #70 
  - Not true. You should try to have an intelligent discussion, first. (nt)  w4rma   Feb-12-05 06:38 PM   #72 
  - Intelligent discussions on any topic have been hard to come by  QC   Feb-12-05 07:02 PM   #73 
     - That's two posts that you could have used to write about this topic with.  w4rma   Feb-12-05 08:28 PM   #81 
        - And that's two posts you have used to quibble with me.  QC   Feb-12-05 10:26 PM   #83 
  - I'm afraid you are correct  Old Mouse   Feb-13-05 03:35 AM   #113 
  - Keep trying, I say.  Maat   Feb-13-05 07:07 PM   #139 
  - It is not impossible  gorbal   Feb-14-05 09:18 AM   #170 
  - Can I take a crack at it?  TrogL   Feb-14-05 05:42 PM   #184 
  - If they're concerned with being misunderstood  Spiffarino   Feb-12-05 02:26 PM   #2 
  - ...then they should do something  Freedom_from_Chains   Feb-12-05 02:43 PM   #16 
  - I whole heartedly agree  Stepup2   Feb-12-05 05:50 PM   #60 
  - "You'd think they would be mad as hell by now."  wildeyed   Feb-12-05 07:41 PM   #77 
  - Those evangelicals should be proud. Good for them.  Zhade   Feb-14-05 01:56 AM   #154 
  - I couldn't agree more!  AuntiBush   Feb-12-05 10:31 PM   #84 
  - why should they justify or defend their religion to you?  Old Mouse   Feb-13-05 03:39 AM   #114 
     - Isn't that exactly what they're attempting to do?  livinginphotographs   Feb-13-05 09:25 AM   #120 
     - no, they seek UNDERSTANDING  Old Mouse   Feb-13-05 12:26 PM   #123 
        - It's the same thing.  livinginphotographs   Feb-13-05 01:22 PM   #127 
           - But you ARE asking  Old Mouse   Feb-14-05 01:26 AM   #152 
              - Most of us, hopefully...  Zhade   Feb-14-05 02:12 AM   #158 
     - Should Muslims speak out against terrorists and fundamentalist Muslims?  Zhade   Feb-14-05 02:00 AM   #155 
        - No  Old Mouse   Feb-14-05 01:57 PM   #180 
           - No, because *I* clearly know the difference.  Zhade   Feb-14-05 03:17 PM   #181 
              - Sorry, I saw this post first. I did not mean to ignore  Old Mouse   Feb-14-05 04:58 PM   #183 
                 - No, you don't understand. I am NOT pushing guilt by association.  Zhade   Feb-14-05 06:46 PM   #186 
                    - but that's the same thing  Old Mouse   Feb-15-05 12:15 AM   #188 
                       - What you refuse to see is that I'm making no demands, period.  Zhade   Feb-15-05 05:21 PM   #189 
  - The part on Falwell and the "Moral Majority" is interesting...  wildflower   Feb-12-05 02:48 PM   #20 
  - This may be a hopeful sign  Spiffarino   Feb-12-05 03:12 PM   #32 
     - Exactly; I think this is a very good sign for the Democratic party.  wildflower   Feb-12-05 03:59 PM   #41 
     - Most evangelicals are  JDPriestly   Feb-12-05 07:09 PM   #74 
     - Giving the Word and growing  oneold1-4u   Feb-12-05 11:27 PM   #93 
     - Great comments on this subject Spiffarino!  Old and In the Way   Feb-12-05 10:39 PM   #85 
        - Thanks  Spiffarino   Feb-13-05 01:00 AM   #103 
  - Exactly..  sendero   Feb-12-05 07:35 PM   #76 
  - i denounce the hell out of them  realisticphish   Feb-13-05 01:36 AM   #109 
  - I'm not talking about you...  sendero   Feb-13-05 08:10 AM   #116 
     - i understand  realisticphish   Feb-13-05 05:05 PM   #135 
  - See post #158, I'm with you on this one!  Zhade   Feb-14-05 03:20 PM   #182 
  - They are; and pretty assertively, now.  blondeatlast   Feb-13-05 08:05 AM   #115 
  - Totally agree  PaDem   Feb-13-05 08:24 AM   #117 
  - It's fairly difficult when they don't have access to the media  fishwax   Feb-13-05 10:52 AM   #121 
  - Sorry, I can't concentrate on your post,  tinfoilinfor2005   Feb-13-05 08:37 PM   #143 
  - There is no difference...  pfitz59   Feb-12-05 02:28 PM   #3 
  - All of them are in it for the money  The Zanti Regent   Feb-12-05 03:59 PM   #40 
     - TV evangelists-evangelicals  oneold1-4u   Feb-12-05 11:43 PM   #98 
  - Thanks for that.  Gyre   Feb-12-05 02:30 PM   #4 
  - Evangelical = evangelize.  cornermouse   Feb-12-05 02:31 PM   #5 
  - Just a half-nelson; that's not intrusive  PurityOfEssence   Feb-12-05 02:40 PM   #12 
     - Good points.  Ladyhawk   Feb-12-05 11:31 PM   #94 
        - I've had that same experience recently  Jamastiene   Feb-14-05 06:07 AM   #163 
           - Here's what you do  JNelson6563   Feb-14-05 06:46 AM   #164 
              - Thanks  Jamastiene   Feb-14-05 06:56 AM   #165 
  - It's too late to dress the swine in perfumed clothes...  AngryWhiteLiberal   Feb-12-05 02:33 PM   #6 
  - They're All Pretty Much In Favor Of (Or Silently Consent To)  arwalden   Feb-12-05 02:33 PM   #8 
  - You got it. To me, fundamentalists = evangelicals = narrow minds  AlinPA   Feb-12-05 05:08 PM   #53 
  - Good point, arwalden. They DO hate gay people.  Ladyhawk   Feb-12-05 11:37 PM   #97 
  - By believing that "all faiths are not equal"  deadparrot   Feb-12-05 02:34 PM   #9 
  - Do you really think all philosophies and faiths are equal?  dmordue   Feb-12-05 02:50 PM   #21 
     - I don't believe that any one faith  deadparrot   Feb-12-05 02:59 PM   #25 
        - I can see why an attitude of "Divine proof" would be annoying.  dmordue   Feb-12-05 03:04 PM   #29 
           - Of course.  deadparrot   Feb-12-05 03:11 PM   #30 
           - I agree. Thanks for the discussion.  dmordue   Feb-12-05 03:13 PM   #33 
           - Isn't that the nature of life?  Old and In the Way   Feb-12-05 10:57 PM   #88 
  - If yer not a christ-ian you go to hell when you die - end of story.....  msongs   Feb-12-05 02:36 PM   #10 
  - Hitler wasn't a Christian.  coloradodem2005   Feb-12-05 02:41 PM   #13 
  - He was a good Christian boy. Just a little misunderstood.  Tom Yossarian Joad   Feb-12-05 02:47 PM   #19 
  - He was?  coloradodem2005   Feb-12-05 03:00 PM   #26 
     - Hitler was a Catholic until the day he died...  Tom Yossarian Joad   Feb-12-05 03:26 PM   #34 
     - Exactly, read The Popes Against the Jews: The Vatican's  VegasWolf   Feb-12-05 03:49 PM   #39 
     - Yeah, we Catholics just don't know how to ask questions.  DemBones DemBones   Feb-14-05 02:22 AM   #160 
        - We ex-Catholics do know how to question dogma. n/t  VegasWolf   Feb-14-05 11:41 AM   #173 
           - Lol!  Megahurtz   Feb-14-05 05:52 PM   #185 
     - I LOVE your *W the whore* avatar  Carni   Feb-12-05 06:04 PM   #67 
     - Jehovah's Witness were persecuted  amazona   Feb-12-05 06:01 PM   #65 
        - Some Catholics were persecuted. nt  DemBones DemBones   Feb-14-05 02:21 AM   #159 
  - He was a Christian like Bush is a Christian.  leesa   Feb-12-05 10:42 PM   #86 
  - Rabbi and Fundie Minister  HockeyMom   Feb-12-05 03:01 PM   #28 
  - Thats painting a rather broad brush, there....  CAG   Feb-12-05 04:51 PM   #49 
     - Religion has been the source of a lot of wars and needless deaths.  Old and In the Way   Feb-12-05 11:07 PM   #90 
        - I'm neither religious or spiritual, I'm a scientist and I see little  VegasWolf   Feb-13-05 01:17 PM   #126 
           - Of course there's a difference. Man is the only animal......  reprobate   Feb-13-05 11:36 PM   #149 
  - Those, poor, powerful Fundies...  Dr Fate   Feb-12-05 02:36 PM   #11 
  - Evangelicals are not necessarily Fundamentalists.  DemBones DemBones   Feb-14-05 02:25 AM   #161 
  - For example  Northern Perspective   Feb-12-05 02:42 PM   #14 
  - evangelical`s would be and probably are  madrchsod   Feb-12-05 02:43 PM   #15 
  - I know a fair number of evangelical progressives including me.  dmordue   Feb-12-05 02:45 PM   #17 
  - Good points. To me, fundamentalist=rigid and dogmatic.  wildflower   Feb-12-05 04:03 PM   #43 
  - "biblically based ethic"  Redstone   Feb-12-05 02:46 PM   #18 
  - Proof that they just don't get it  lwfern   Feb-12-05 02:54 PM   #22 
  - The problem is evangelicals like Americans is a broad designation.  dmordue   Feb-12-05 02:59 PM   #24 
  - Possibly so  lwfern   Feb-12-05 03:00 PM   #27 
  - Substitute The Word "Secular" For "Materialistic" & You Describe  cryingshame   Feb-12-05 03:11 PM   #31 
     - It's not even materialism it's  readmoreoften   Feb-13-05 01:21 AM   #106 
  - The difference between evangelists and fundamentalists  LastLiberal in PalmSprings   Feb-12-05 02:58 PM   #23 
  - Another difference...  Redstone   Feb-12-05 03:30 PM   #35 
  - LOL......  Old and In the Way   Feb-12-05 11:12 PM   #91 
  - they have only themselves to blame. its interesting that they are  roguevalley   Feb-12-05 03:32 PM   #36 
  - "Christians can be respectful of other religions ." Unuh, what about sane  VegasWolf   Feb-12-05 03:33 PM   #37 
  - Another great showing by several people in this thread...  CAG   Feb-12-05 04:58 PM   #51 
     - lol!  Pastiche423   Feb-12-05 05:35 PM   #58 
     - While your telling me what I need to do, let me suggest....  CAG   Feb-12-05 10:59 PM   #89 
     - Oh many of us have a clue, that is why we don't buy into superstitious  VegasWolf   Feb-12-05 06:04 PM   #66 
        - Clue..  CAG   Feb-12-05 10:46 PM   #87 
           - Where's the christian left?  Old and In the Way   Feb-12-05 11:21 PM   #92 
           - Couldn't agree with you more...most of us on the christian left....  CAG   Feb-12-05 11:46 PM   #99 
           - I agree.  Old and In the Way   Feb-13-05 12:07 AM   #101 
           - Not that hard to find.  Raskolnik   Feb-13-05 06:23 PM   #136 
           - Hey, it is the christian right that gets so much of the news that they  VegasWolf   Feb-13-05 01:02 PM   #124 
  - no thank you...we understand you enough...  LinuxInsurgent   Feb-12-05 03:35 PM   #38 
  - How about good muslims and bad muslims?  dmordue   Feb-12-05 04:00 PM   #42 
  - I've known Evangelicals all my life  donheld   Feb-12-05 04:07 PM   #44 
  - whatever  Solly Mack   Feb-12-05 04:18 PM   #45 
  - The message is that we should fight the ideas not the people.  Ranec   Feb-12-05 04:27 PM   #46 
  - Poor widdle evangicals  toddaa   Feb-12-05 04:45 PM   #47 
  - Thank You!!! That's how I feel exactly!!!  pacoyogi   Feb-12-05 04:53 PM   #50 
  - Maybe we should single you out and say "It's not our problem"  brentspeak   Feb-12-05 05:23 PM   #56 
  - I'm not a Christian, it's not my mess.  toddaa   Feb-12-05 05:50 PM   #61 
     - Well, as long as you speak for just yourself, I won't gainsay your opinion  brentspeak   Feb-12-05 05:56 PM   #62 
     - You speak for this heathen also. n/t  VegasWolf   Feb-13-05 01:43 PM   #130 
     - It's all of our mess  SomewhereOutThere424   Feb-13-05 03:05 PM   #134 
  - that about sums up how I feel too  readmoreoften   Feb-13-05 01:26 AM   #107 
  - misunderstood  wildmanj   Feb-12-05 04:50 PM   #48 
  - Boo fucking hoo!  Swamp Rat   Feb-12-05 05:07 PM   #52 
  - Yep, I agree 100% swamp rat  Jose Diablo   Feb-12-05 05:17 PM   #54 
  - Poor, Poor oppressed religious bigoted zealots.  Cobalt Violet   Feb-14-05 08:33 AM   #169 
  - "Membership in conservative evangelical churches explodes."  GOPBasher   Feb-12-05 05:19 PM   #55 
  - Everyone should fear Jihadists/Fundamentalists of any religion.  98geoduck   Feb-12-05 05:28 PM   #57 
  - you know what?  amazona   Feb-12-05 05:56 PM   #63 
  - Exactly well said !  sffreeways   Feb-13-05 03:11 AM   #110 
  - Don't let your guard down. Religious people cause the most suffering and  Mountainman   Feb-12-05 06:10 PM   #68 
  - I think U.S Fundamentalists should fight  gizmo1979   Feb-12-05 06:36 PM   #69 
  - Religion is often used for tyrany .  Disturbed   Feb-12-05 07:42 PM   #78 
  - Hahahaha! Thanks for the gut laugh  nothingshocksmeanymore   Feb-12-05 08:26 PM   #80 
  - I like that idea.  livinginphotographs   Feb-13-05 09:18 AM   #119 
  - Aren't Dobson, Falwell, Roberts et al evangelicals? They are getting  VegasWolf   Feb-12-05 07:25 PM   #75 
  - They call themselves evangelicals but  intheflow   Feb-12-05 10:11 PM   #82 
     - Out of curiousity, why then are you in a seminary? The distinction  VegasWolf   Feb-13-05 01:12 PM   #125 
     - Merriam-Webster definitions and why I'm in seminary.  intheflow   Feb-13-05 08:26 PM   #142 
        - Good response! There are atheists that also do good works. I  VegasWolf   Feb-13-05 08:54 PM   #145 
           - Cheers to the Atheists!  intheflow   Feb-13-05 09:27 PM   #147 
     - Some Fundamentalists just want to be left alone.  Bridget Burke   Feb-14-05 07:35 AM   #167 
  - There is an obvious lie in this article.  American Tragedy   Feb-12-05 08:09 PM   #79 
  - That's the problem in a nutshell.  Old and In the Way   Feb-12-05 11:33 PM   #95 
  - Look  The Blue Knight   Feb-12-05 11:34 PM   #96 
     - Actually, I agree. I merely object to this particular individual  American Tragedy   Feb-13-05 12:01 AM   #100 
     - Same problem for us.  Old and In the Way   Feb-13-05 12:17 AM   #102 
     - Okay from now on my posts will look like this  readmoreoften   Feb-13-05 01:34 AM   #108 
  - Fundamentalists are bad but...  readmoreoften   Feb-13-05 01:17 AM   #104 
  - Did Martin Luther King Jr. want to "export hate"?  Raskolnik   Feb-13-05 08:39 PM   #144 
     - Oh come on.... we're not talking about MLK here.  readmoreoften   Feb-14-05 03:00 AM   #162 
        - *You're* not talking about people like MLK because they don't fit...  Raskolnik   Feb-14-05 12:13 PM   #178 
  - .  PROGRESSIVE1   Feb-13-05 01:19 AM   #105 
  - Then they'd BY GOD better do a better job of differentiating themselves.  dbaker41   Feb-13-05 03:20 AM   #111 
  - Evangelicals are PRO-teaching "religion" in public schools  Kinkistyle   Feb-13-05 03:31 AM   #112 
  - They control the fucking government, and they think they're misunderstood?  Stop_the_War   Feb-13-05 08:31 AM   #118 
  - The Puritans felt they were misunderstood, too. n/t  No Exit   Feb-13-05 11:58 AM   #122 
  - Evangelical  Sgent   Feb-13-05 01:24 PM   #128 
     - Thanks for the info... btw, I admired the recent courage of the  No Exit   Feb-13-05 07:52 PM   #140 
  - By forcing Jesus down the throat of Seiks or Muslims you create  applegrove   Feb-13-05 01:53 PM   #131 
  - New Bumper Sticker: Religion Is A Very, Very, Personal Thing  applegrove   Feb-13-05 01:54 PM   #132 
  - Gee, I wonder...  SomewhereOutThere424   Feb-13-05 02:44 PM   #133 
  - Evangelism does not equal Fundamentalism  Raskolnik   Feb-13-05 06:29 PM   #137 
  - So, all fundamentalists are evangelicals, but not all evangelicals  VegasWolf   Feb-13-05 07:06 PM   #138 
     - Not necessarily.  Raskolnik   Feb-13-05 07:57 PM   #141 
        - Gotcha! n/t  VegasWolf   Feb-13-05 09:00 PM   #146 
           - Huh, funny, Kerry is insane?  davidthegnome   Feb-13-05 09:53 PM   #148 
              - I think you have misplaced your post as well as your anger. I  VegasWolf   Feb-14-05 12:23 AM   #151 
  - Here we go again.  bushwentawol   Feb-14-05 12:15 AM   #150 
  - I am sorry for your situation  Old Mouse   Feb-14-05 01:33 AM   #153 
  - Actually, I think you a tarred with the brush of bush, ashcroft, falwell,  VegasWolf   Feb-14-05 02:08 AM   #157 
     - They are but a small group  bushwentawol   Feb-14-05 11:18 AM   #171 
  - poor babies.  rodeodance   Feb-14-05 02:00 AM   #156 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-14-05 07:08 AM   #166 
  - FOR BOG'S SAKE, CAN'T WE GET OVER THIS GARBAGE????  Tyler Durden   Feb-14-05 07:48 AM   #168 
  - Every fundamental denomination  Sgent   Feb-14-05 11:37 AM   #172 
  - They can split hairs all they want...  aikido15   Feb-14-05 11:52 AM   #175 
  - So do most celebrities.  applegrove   Feb-14-05 11:56 AM   #176 
     - So do most liberals, these days...  aikido15   Feb-14-05 11:58 AM   #177 
        - Of course we don't know each other - we have all been stereotypes for the  applegrove   Feb-14-05 12:17 PM   #179 
 

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