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32. My son is 23 and has never gone to college...
He started working right after high school at a tile manufacturer/distributer in their warehouse. Four years later, he is their shipping and receiving manager. I keep asking if he wants to go to college, but he does not want to a)give up the job he has to go to school, and b)give up the independence he has had for the past 3 years of living on his own.

Also, I think he is a bit afraid of failing, because he had such a hard time in school, being ADD. He was an "A or F" kid -- classes he found interesting, he'd get all As in... classes he didn't like or found difficult, he failed.

I haven't asked him about college in about a year. I figure if he really wanted to go, he'd bring it up. He already knows I would help pay for it.
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  -Young adults passing on college Rose Siding  Feb-08-05 10:48 PM   #0 
  - I passed on college just because its for suckers  bobbobbins   Feb-08-05 10:57 PM   #1 
  - I see you passed on the apostrophe, too.  DS1   Feb-08-05 11:07 PM   #2 
  - That really depends on what you plan to do with your degree.  girl gone mad   Feb-08-05 11:10 PM   #5 
  - College correlates to something like +$1 million in life time earning  AP   Feb-09-05 01:09 AM   #15 
  - I'm skeptical of those statistics.  girl gone mad   Feb-09-05 03:37 AM   #21 
  - College degree == union card.  trogdor   Feb-09-05 09:19 AM   #35 
  - That's what I did -- but opposite  RadFemFL   Feb-09-05 11:03 AM   #64 
     - Did it help?  trogdor   Feb-09-05 03:17 PM   #92 
        - Yes it did...  RadFemFL   Feb-09-05 03:19 PM   #93 
  - It's the average. For the motivated, it's worth much more.  AP   Feb-09-05 09:36 AM   #36 
  - What about inflation the greatest tax of all  RawMaterials   Feb-09-05 10:31 AM   #49 
     - Why are so many so reluctant to admit the value of an education?  AP   Feb-09-05 10:38 AM   #53 
        - At the risk of becoming flamebait  shrike   Feb-09-05 10:40 AM   #54 
        - I also think there's a leading edge of uderemployed college graduates...  AP   Feb-09-05 10:47 AM   #56 
        - I agree, AP  Steve_DeShazer   Feb-09-05 11:08 AM   #65 
        - or the fact that the college degree  RawMaterials   Feb-09-05 11:29 AM   #68 
           - Absolutely, I knew 30 years ago that I had to get an advanced  VegasWolf   Feb-09-05 02:47 PM   #90 
        - I barely gadgiated from High School  MadisonProgressive   Feb-09-05 01:46 PM   #77 
           - These are AVERAGES!!!  AP   Feb-09-05 02:04 PM   #78 
              - I KNOW THEY ARE AVERAGES!!!!  MadisonProgressive   Feb-09-05 02:21 PM   #84 
                 - The average for all Americans is about 43K  AP   Feb-09-05 02:32 PM   #87 
                    - I think  MadisonProgressive   Feb-09-05 02:40 PM   #89 
                    - I think people who don't go to college and make it anyway tend to be...  AP   Feb-09-05 03:50 PM   #97 
                       - I generally agree with everything you just said...  MadisonProgressive   Feb-10-05 08:24 AM   #107 
                    - workers wages today - $25,000 (SD) - $46,000 (NY)  CountAllVotes   Feb-09-05 05:32 PM   #104 
        - I agree that their is growing anti-intellectualism in the country,  girl gone mad   Feb-09-05 04:47 PM   #101 
           - They are more likely to be welcome on a college campus  shrike   Feb-10-05 11:17 AM   #113 
           - That seems to be one of my problems in college now  Jamastiene   Feb-11-05 03:53 AM   #115 
        - Seconded.  tasteblind   Feb-09-05 10:57 AM   #59 
        - because what's the point of telling us how great something is  amazona   Feb-09-05 11:32 AM   #69 
           - Because the battle over how to pay for college is a completely different  AP   Feb-09-05 02:10 PM   #79 
              - I'm not debating, I'm explaining  amazona   Feb-09-05 04:14 PM   #98 
                 - In an economy that is punishing people WITH educations, those without are  AP   Feb-09-05 05:07 PM   #103 
  - AP is right  shrike   Feb-09-05 10:08 AM   #42 
  - I've done it both ways....  mike_c   Feb-10-05 10:43 AM   #110 
  - What if...  HuckleB   Feb-09-05 11:00 AM   #62 
  - The other day on MSN  One_Life_To_Give   Feb-09-05 02:15 PM   #82 
  - It's no guarantee.  ArchTeryx   Feb-09-05 07:10 AM   #22 
  - Well said!  thinkingwoman   Feb-09-05 07:16 AM   #23 
  - *smile*  ArchTeryx   Feb-09-05 07:33 AM   #26 
  - English  thinkingwoman   Feb-09-05 12:22 PM   #70 
     - Majors and graduate degrees/  ArchTeryx   Feb-09-05 06:16 PM   #106 
  - Big business tends to figure out who has the money, and then they take it.  AP   Feb-09-05 09:47 AM   #39 
  - It's obviously no guarantee, but it cerainly correlates strongly with...  AP   Feb-09-05 09:38 AM   #37 
  - Oh, no disagreement there...  ArchTeryx   Feb-09-05 10:54 AM   #57 
     - At the very least, many employers use NOT having a college deg. as excuse  AP   Feb-09-05 10:57 AM   #60 
        - Yep.  ArchTeryx   Feb-09-05 11:02 AM   #63 
  - Doctorates...  solinvictus   Feb-09-05 02:15 PM   #83 
     - just for balance....  mike_c   Feb-10-05 10:57 AM   #112 
  - Funny I went for poli sci and ended up making a lot of money  Sterling   Feb-10-05 10:56 AM   #111 
  - I'm a physics major, too.  GOPBasher   Feb-09-05 02:38 PM   #88 
  - it's because nerds...  amazona   Feb-09-05 04:18 PM   #99 
  - True. nt :-)  GOPBasher   Feb-10-05 10:26 AM   #108 
  - Hello.  girl gone mad   Feb-09-05 05:01 PM   #102 
     - Yeah, I'm a physics teacher.  GOPBasher   Feb-10-05 10:27 AM   #109 
        - You teach physics?  Jamastiene   Feb-11-05 04:16 AM   #117 
           - Well..  GOPBasher   Feb-11-05 07:58 AM   #119 
  - You've got that right..  KDLarsen   Feb-11-05 05:21 AM   #118 
  - i haven't gone to college yet and i make pretty good cash..  egoprofit   Feb-09-05 10:33 AM   #50 
  - Doing the job of your dreams, then?  Lorien   Feb-09-05 12:48 PM   #75 
  - Yeah. College helps people earn more $$$. Look at me.  coloradodem2005   Feb-08-05 11:09 PM   #3 
  - Don't I know it...  kypper   Feb-09-05 02:12 PM   #80 
  - So D'Ya Want Fries With That?  rwenos   Feb-08-05 11:09 PM   #4 
  - I think College is great for some people. Its the only time  lovuian   Feb-08-05 11:11 PM   #6 
  - I agree, have two degrees  EC   Feb-08-05 11:26 PM   #7 
  - more and more people are being shut out from college  WindRavenX   Feb-08-05 11:49 PM   #8 
  - Harder and Harder to pay for college or...  mudderfudder77   Feb-09-05 08:33 AM   #28 
  - And then are plenty of state schools that aren't dirt cheap...  dean_dem   Feb-09-05 09:46 AM   #38 
  - No kidding n/t  shrike   Feb-09-05 10:10 AM   #43 
  - Been there, done that  MountainLaurel   Feb-09-05 02:29 PM   #85 
  - I go to a dirt-cheap state school but I need big loans anyway  conflictgirl   Feb-09-05 12:32 PM   #73 
  - Heard just this morning...  trogdor   Feb-09-05 09:13 AM   #33 
  - Ohio has gone from one of the most affordable states to one of the least  Maeve   Feb-09-05 09:19 AM   #34 
  - as in thousand?  Jamastiene   Feb-11-05 04:08 AM   #116 
  - I was in Peru in the spring...  tooncesj0nes   Feb-08-05 11:53 PM   #9 
  - Indeed...  HuckleB   Feb-09-05 10:46 AM   #55 
  - College is no longer paying off in access to decent jobs  starroute   Feb-09-05 12:19 AM   #10 
  - I think every kid I know who graduated in the last two yrs. is  barb162   Feb-09-05 12:25 AM   #11 
  - Fomenting Revoltion  davekriss   Feb-09-05 12:55 AM   #12 
  - I know what you mean  Autobot77   Feb-09-05 02:06 AM   #19 
  - Is that the fault of college or Shrub's economy, though?  shrike   Feb-09-05 10:12 AM   #44 
  - So long Middle Class. We hardly knew you.  AP   Feb-09-05 01:06 AM   #13 
  - You got that right  davekriss   Feb-09-05 02:53 AM   #20 
     - It's amazing how little the anxieties about this percolate to the surface.  AP   Feb-09-05 10:55 AM   #58 
        - Lou Dobbs on CNN  solinvictus   Feb-09-05 02:31 PM   #86 
  - My oldest didn't even graduate from H.S.and has a mid 6 figure income  SoCalDem   Feb-09-05 01:07 AM   #14 
  - Statistics don't lie: don't graduate from college and the deck is stacked  AP   Feb-09-05 01:13 AM   #16 
  - We ALL know how LUCKY he is.. He has taken courses and may someday  SoCalDem   Feb-09-05 01:16 AM   #17 
  - statistics don't lie?  thinkingwoman   Feb-09-05 07:18 AM   #24 
  - does that 1 million dollar difference  RawMaterials   Feb-09-05 07:26 AM   #25 
     - See post 36 and post 39  AP   Feb-09-05 09:49 AM   #40 
  - Not my nephew  shrike   Feb-09-05 10:16 AM   #46 
  - There are always exceptions to everything.  HuckleB   Feb-09-05 10:58 AM   #61 
  - Not everyone is motivated by money  Xipe Totec   Feb-09-05 03:21 PM   #94 
  - I'm in community college  Jamastiene   Feb-09-05 01:21 AM   #18 
  - So you'd quit,  mudderfudder77   Feb-09-05 08:36 AM   #29 
     - No  Jamastiene   Feb-11-05 03:40 AM   #114 
  - Both of my sons passed on college.  LWolf   Feb-09-05 08:25 AM   #27 
  - it's not just about getting a "good job"  cap   Feb-09-05 08:50 AM   #30 
     - It's about getting a great job. Where else are you going to find a career  AP   Feb-09-05 09:55 AM   #41 
     - people don't take out tens of thousands of dollars in loans  amazona   Feb-09-05 04:22 PM   #100 
     - Yes and no.  LWolf   Feb-09-05 06:15 PM   #105 
  - People with degrees are more likely to participate in politics  Rose Siding   Feb-09-05 08:58 AM   #31 
  - My son is 23 and has never gone to college...  RadFemFL   Feb-09-05 09:01 AM   #32 
  - College is not for everyone  shrike   Feb-09-05 10:14 AM   #45 
     - That's what I did.  Lilith Velkor   Feb-09-05 03:21 PM   #95 
  - Poly Sci 101, Sociology 101...dangerous to the monarchy!  backtotheuniverse   Feb-09-05 10:24 AM   #47 
  - Just on a positive note, I thoroughly enjoyed my college years.  VegasWolf   Feb-09-05 10:26 AM   #48 
  - College is an investment, and as such, has risks  Chico Man   Feb-09-05 10:34 AM   #51 
  - Being that many young adults leave high school barely literate  shrike   Feb-09-05 10:36 AM   #52 
  - college is NOT a ticket -- it's an EDUCATION  nashville_brook   Feb-09-05 11:14 AM   #66 
  - I , too, passed on college when I was a kid . . .  todwest   Feb-09-05 11:17 AM   #67 
  - congratulations!  dumtacetclamat   Feb-09-05 12:32 PM   #72 
  - I am a statistic...  carlaivette   Feb-09-05 12:29 PM   #71 
  - oy that's true!  b...   Feb-09-05 12:45 PM   #74 
  - good for me, i guess....(?)  enki23   Feb-09-05 01:25 PM   #76 
  - bush is the eddycated president. n/t  VegasWolf   Feb-09-05 02:50 PM   #91 
  - I'm in college and I enjoy it, but it really is just a ticket to a degree  American Tragedy   Feb-09-05 02:14 PM   #81 
  - I never went because of the way things were set up in our public schools.  William Bloode   Feb-09-05 03:25 PM   #96 
 

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