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Herkdrvr Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 06:37 PM
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15. Too bad the Iraqi Army didn't have...
...the SA-18. They had -7s and some -14s.
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  -Clue on RAF crash missile (c130 crash now missile attack,blame iran?) Monkie  Feb-07-05 06:54 AM   #0 
  - I Have Wondered For A Long Time If The Resistance Movement  mhr   Feb-07-05 07:03 AM   #1 
  - or are they growing stronger?  Supersedeas   Feb-07-05 08:59 AM   #6 
  - IMHO, "we've not seen anything yet"!  anarchy1999   Feb-07-05 09:19 AM   #10 
  - So what are you implying?  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 06:39 PM   #16 
     - Not exactly  tkmorris   Feb-07-05 07:05 PM   #22 
        - They have been using missiles as well  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 07:07 PM   #24 
        - nvm  Inte11ectual   Feb-07-05 08:20 PM   #51 
           - They got lucky  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 08:22 PM   #52 
        - Some groups have used them before  Stella_Artois   Feb-08-05 02:28 AM   #92 
           - Other incidents  Herkdrvr   Feb-08-05 01:05 PM   #98 
  - "...how do we spin it? Blame Iran." I do think you've got it!  djmaddox1   Feb-07-05 07:06 AM   #2 
  - Too bad we didn't guard the ammo dumps  DoYouEverWonder   Feb-07-05 07:09 AM   #3 
  - Too bad the Iraqi Army didn't have...  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 06:37 PM   #15 
  - "Mission Accomplished" !!!!! - George W. Bush*  SpiralHawk   Feb-07-05 07:21 AM   #4 
  - They fired 6 missles at it!!!??? That is very odd.  frictionlessO   Feb-07-05 07:33 AM   #5 
  - Target Practice With A Live Target - What Better Way To Give Resistance  mhr   Feb-07-05 09:41 AM   #13 
  - This is nothing new  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 06:36 PM   #14 
     - but whats up with the 6 at once thing??  frictionlessO   Feb-07-05 08:38 PM   #55 
     - It's not extremely common, but...  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 09:54 PM   #65 
        - the sa-18 has a mounted variation doesn't it?  shadowknows69   Feb-08-05 12:09 AM   #89 
           - I'm not aware of a mounted version...  Herkdrvr   Feb-08-05 12:49 PM   #96 
     - How can you believe bu$h wacked news on what weapons were used when  mod mom   Feb-07-05 08:54 PM   #58 
        - I don't get this stuff from the "news"  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 09:43 PM   #61 
  - Connect the dots, la la la la...  Earth_First   Feb-07-05 09:06 AM   #7 
  - and weren't there quite a few Americans on that plane?  wovenpaint   Feb-07-05 09:16 AM   #8 
  - Not that we know of  DistantWind88   Feb-07-05 09:19 AM   #9 
  - Insurgency, Hanafi Sunni; Iran, Shi'a.  igil   Feb-07-05 09:35 AM   #11 
  - After the Super Bowl on Fox News,  Kansas Wyatt   Feb-07-05 09:40 AM   #12 
  - I fear you are right, we are being prepared to attack Iran.  reprobate   Feb-07-05 06:52 PM   #19 
     - I doubt we're gearing up to attack Iran  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 06:56 PM   #20 
     - Escalation  rustydad   Feb-07-05 07:29 PM   #29 
     - About this Iran invasion  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 07:34 PM   #32 
        - Hello Herkdrvr...  jayfish   Feb-07-05 09:53 PM   #63 
           - In my opinion...  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 10:09 PM   #74 
              - Some Do Want War...  jayfish   Feb-07-05 10:17 PM   #77 
                 - I'm not denying...  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 10:26 PM   #80 
                    - I'll Give You...  jayfish   Feb-07-05 10:31 PM   #81 
                       - Those that fail to learn from history  Rex   Feb-07-05 10:34 PM   #82 
     - anyone read the New Yorker article  Inte11ectual   Feb-07-05 08:24 PM   #53 
        - I have...  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 08:35 PM   #54 
  - Now, whose psy-ops is this?  Just Me   Feb-07-05 06:42 PM   #17 
  - What do ya mean?  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 06:47 PM   #18 
  - North Viet Nam didn't have the technology to produce the weaponry..  coreystone   Feb-07-05 06:59 PM   #21 
  - This is a different situation...  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 07:06 PM   #23 
     - no "story" is needed to sense an attack on Iran  Cocoa   Feb-07-05 07:18 PM   #25 
     - No one was seriously talking about any "Iran invasion" until that story  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 07:21 PM   #26 
     - give me an S, give me a Y, give me a R  henrik larssonisking   Feb-07-05 07:22 PM   #27 
     - When I listed those countries...  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 07:25 PM   #28 
        - FYI...Syria recently signed a deal with Russia to purchase...  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 07:31 PM   #30 
        - yup, thats why i think if it was an SA18  henrik larssonisking   Feb-07-05 07:37 PM   #34 
        - So the neocons  mmonk   Feb-07-05 07:50 PM   #40 
     - Sy Hersch doesn't understand the "big picture"?  Don Claybrook   Feb-07-05 07:34 PM   #31 
     - No he does not.  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 07:38 PM   #35 
        - Why should I believe you know more?  Just Me   Feb-07-05 07:42 PM   #37 
        - Why?  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 07:48 PM   #38 
           - I could spend about 15 seconds on the net and have your expertise.  Just Me   Feb-07-05 07:51 PM   #41 
              - I don't think you could spend 15 seconds and gain my expertise  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 07:59 PM   #43 
                 - with all due respect  paagal kutta   Feb-08-05 03:17 AM   #93 
                    - I'm not an "expert" on that...  Herkdrvr   Feb-08-05 01:02 PM   #97 
        - Flying a C130 doesn't put you inside the head of the Bush Admin  Don Claybrook   Feb-07-05 09:23 PM   #60 
           - You're right, Hersh does have a track record  Psephos   Feb-07-05 09:48 PM   #62 
           - He's no Woodward, you're right  Don Claybrook   Feb-07-05 09:54 PM   #64 
           - I'm not persuaded  Psephos   Feb-07-05 11:00 PM   #84 
              - Maybe...  Herkdrvr   Feb-08-05 01:10 PM   #99 
                 - An interesting take...and I do feel Hersh got it mostly right this time  Psephos   Feb-08-05 01:22 PM   #102 
                    - Thanks, and in response  Herkdrvr   Feb-08-05 01:32 PM   #104 
           - I do not know if Hersh was wrong on those two occasions  happyslug   Feb-08-05 04:44 PM   #107 
           - You're right...  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 09:57 PM   #67 
              - Okay...  ewagner   Feb-08-05 01:21 PM   #101 
                 - Different C-130s  Herkdrvr   Feb-08-05 01:58 PM   #105 
                    - Thanks........  ewagner   Feb-08-05 02:08 PM   #106 
     - Just because you  Magleetis   Feb-07-05 07:49 PM   #39 
     - Navy C-130s  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 08:03 PM   #45 
     - Someone Better Explain The "Big...  jayfish   Feb-07-05 10:02 PM   #69 
  - At least six?  makhno   Feb-07-05 07:35 PM   #33 
  - Tactics change  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 07:41 PM   #36 
     - Why don't you educate yourself about PNAC.  Just Me   Feb-07-05 07:56 PM   #42 
        - My job isn't politics  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 08:02 PM   #44 
           - War is an extension of politics ...  makhno   Feb-07-05 08:09 PM   #46 
              - But would you want a military run by politically-motivated officers?  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 08:11 PM   #47 
                 - interesting and informative answers mate.  henrik larssonisking   Feb-07-05 08:14 PM   #48 
                 - If you  Magleetis   Feb-07-05 08:15 PM   #49 
                 - Sometimes...  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 08:18 PM   #50 
                    - For the record?  Rex   Feb-07-05 08:40 PM   #56 
                       - Credentials...  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 10:20 PM   #79 
                 - So the officers in the Pentagon are not politically motivated?  Rex   Feb-07-05 08:40 PM   #57 
                 - They aren't supposed to be..and many aren't  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 10:01 PM   #68 
                    - You're Top Brass?  Rex   Feb-07-05 10:03 PM   #70 
                       - What are you talking about?  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 10:08 PM   #72 
                          - You said the ones that run the military  Rex   Feb-07-05 10:18 PM   #78 
                 - But isn't that exactly what we have?  Laurab   Feb-07-05 09:00 PM   #59 
                    - If you want to talk about...  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 10:05 PM   #71 
                       - Yes, but at the end of the day  Laurab   Feb-07-05 10:58 PM   #83 
                          - At the end of the day, every decision...  Herkdrvr   Feb-08-05 01:24 PM   #103 
  - Now probably in the archives....  paineinthearse   Feb-07-05 09:56 PM   #66 
  - There is no SA-18 "launch vehicle"  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 10:12 PM   #75 
  - That was an SA-13  DistantWind88   Feb-08-05 06:22 AM   #94 
  - Likely 6 "Iglas" used to overwhelm countermeasures.  ausiedownunderground   Feb-07-05 10:09 PM   #73 
  - No, your a bit off  Herkdrvr   Feb-07-05 10:16 PM   #76 
     - There is one C-130...  bvar22   Feb-07-05 11:19 PM   #85 
     - The C-130 in question was RAF, not USAF n/t  Psephos   Feb-07-05 11:47 PM   #86 
        - Are we keeping secrets from the British....  bvar22   Feb-07-05 11:53 PM   #87 
           - No, but each country uses its own avionics and countermeasures n/t  Psephos   Feb-07-05 11:59 PM   #88 
              - What you say makes sense.  bvar22   Feb-08-05 12:13 AM   #90 
                 - The Brits...  Herkdrvr   Feb-08-05 01:14 PM   #100 
     - Well, HDvr I think you make sense.  Gyre   Feb-08-05 12:31 AM   #91 
  - "Military accident investigators believe" n/t  Stockholm   Feb-08-05 07:32 AM   #95 
 

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