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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:46 PM
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43. He may have brought some of this on himself,
Edited on Fri Feb-04-05 07:48 PM by Ojai Person
but clearly, there is much more to it.

I mean, honestly. First they dispose of the governor. Then the Secretary of State. There is a statewide coup in place. And Grover Norquist is bankrolling the CalPERS privatization?
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  -(Calif.) Secretary of State Kevin Shelley to resign Newsjock  Feb-04-05 05:57 PM   #0 
  - Oh man.  Kadie   Feb-04-05 05:58 PM   #1 
  - kick! All, call your legislators right now! Tell them  Liberty Belle   Feb-04-05 06:40 PM   #21 
  - Time for a non-partisan Secretary of State  Dump the deficit   Feb-05-05 11:34 AM   #83 
  - I totally agree with you  me b zola   Feb-05-05 12:39 PM   #89 
  - Call 916 653 7244 We need him to stop planned gerrymandering  genius   Feb-04-05 06:48 PM   #24 
     - Wait - how is an independent redistricting called gerrymandering?  mountebank   Feb-04-05 06:57 PM   #29 
        - Yes, every district in the state but one is a guaranteed win for  Ojai Person   Feb-04-05 07:22 PM   #35 
        - Right - Arnold's plan is short on details.  mountebank   Feb-04-05 07:33 PM   #40 
        - Hello???? this is rethug steroid boy!!!  xxqqqzme   Feb-04-05 07:31 PM   #38 
        - You can't trust ANYTHING the republicans are saying  CAcyclist   Feb-04-05 07:50 PM   #45 
        - oh now we get to vote on diebold machines  natrat   Feb-04-05 07:59 PM   #49 
        - The "redistricting plan" wouldn't be happening  Merlot   Feb-04-05 08:06 PM   #54 
        - Well, I'm sure they are not  CAcyclist   Feb-04-05 09:41 PM   #65 
           - All right, I'll give you mine  Big_Mike   Feb-05-05 02:03 PM   #90 
  - Democratic or Republican?  LisaM   Feb-04-05 05:58 PM   #2 
  - Democrat  Book Lover   Feb-04-05 06:01 PM   #4 
     - Allegations are more than personnel issues, inappropriate use of funds.  Garbo 2004   Feb-04-05 06:09 PM   #11 
        - Two HAVA people attended a political rally: That's the basis  genius   Feb-04-05 06:55 PM   #28 
           - If that's all that it is, why is he resigning?  Freddie Stubbs   Feb-04-05 07:55 PM   #47 
           - There's a bit more than that. The State Auditor's report for example is  Garbo 2004   Feb-04-05 08:49 PM   #60 
  - Guess that means Arnie gets to appoint his replacement, no?  nothingshocksmeanymore   Feb-04-05 05:58 PM   #3 
  - Yes, that's exactly what it means.  Merlot   Feb-04-05 06:01 PM   #5 
  - Arnie is probably twirling in circles and doing cartwheels right about now  Kadie   Feb-04-05 06:04 PM   #9 
  - Off-topic, but did you know Norquist is bankrolling his CalPERS plan?  Shakespeare   Feb-04-05 06:08 PM   #10 
     - OMFG. n/t  Ojai Person   Feb-04-05 07:25 PM   #36 
     - Who is Norquist?  Dump the deficit   Feb-05-05 12:05 PM   #86 
        - Grover Norquist. If you don't know who he is....  Shakespeare   Feb-07-05 02:33 PM   #91 
  - What did they do, threaten his family? So other SOS, here's your lesson.nt  glitch   Feb-04-05 06:02 PM   #6 
  - I said on trhe California forum last night that he was toast  Jack Rabbit   Feb-04-05 06:02 PM   #7 
  - Freeperville had Call to Action threads every day  Robbien   Feb-04-05 06:17 PM   #13 
  - We need to oppose whatever letter writing campaign the freepers are doing  CAcyclist   Feb-04-05 09:13 PM   #62 
  - yep, and that nasty thing about the electronic voting will no longer be a  Sivafae   Feb-04-05 07:36 PM   #41 
     - sweet now we can have a real european dictator  natrat   Feb-04-05 08:03 PM   #52 
        - From Austria no less nt  CAcyclist   Feb-04-05 09:48 PM   #66 
  - No, he can't!  merh   Feb-04-05 06:03 PM   #8 
  - He may not be able to afford to defend himself.  Kadie   Feb-04-05 06:16 PM   #12 
  - I know that feeling!  merh   Feb-04-05 06:21 PM   #15 
  - OVER MY DEAD BODY! I've had enough! Stay the fuck away from CA.!  fooj   Feb-05-05 01:13 AM   #77 
     - I think the article was updated that he resigned.  merh   Feb-05-05 02:16 AM   #79 
  - Who is behind this? This is not coincidence obviously.  mountebank   Feb-04-05 06:18 PM   #14 
  - The same people who went after Dan Rather/CBS  Robbien   Feb-04-05 06:24 PM   #17 
  - The freepers are rabid about a lot of things, but they don't always  mountebank   Feb-04-05 06:53 PM   #26 
     - The freepers are led by a group of RNC "minders"  Robbien   Feb-04-05 07:04 PM   #32 
        - We don't need to know who is behind this if we can see what the freepers  CAcyclist   Feb-04-05 09:54 PM   #67 
  - Karl Rove? He is big on getting his people in top state positions.  Ojai Person   Feb-04-05 07:29 PM   #37 
  - It started LONG before that. During the recall  nothingshocksmeanymore   Feb-05-05 12:13 PM   #87 
  - Fair elections in CA will go with him. Look for CA to go red in 2008.  bobweaver   Feb-04-05 06:23 PM   #16 
  - Don't forget he was considered a leading candidate for Governor  AlGore-08.com   Feb-04-05 06:30 PM   #18 
  - If He Was Innocent, He Should Have Stayed and Fought  DoveTurnedHawk   Feb-04-05 06:30 PM   #19 
  - Once the VRWC smeared Shelley as dirty, how do you beat back  Robbien   Feb-04-05 06:41 PM   #22 
     - This Is California, and Shelley Had Already Been Elected (eom)  DoveTurnedHawk   Feb-04-05 06:46 PM   #23 
        - And now he is resigning  Robbien   Feb-04-05 07:14 PM   #34 
        - If I Was Innocent, No Peer Pressure Would Get Me To Resign  DoveTurnedHawk   Feb-04-05 11:52 PM   #75 
           - What are you talking about "Peer Pressure"?  Robbien   Feb-05-05 12:17 AM   #76 
           - You are being naive. (nt)  w4rma   Feb-05-05 10:46 AM   #82 
           - Proven to me your opinions aren't worth listening to  CAcyclist   Feb-05-05 11:41 AM   #84 
        - So had Gray Davis  nothingshocksmeanymore   Feb-04-05 09:56 PM   #68 
           - Davis Didn't Resign (eom)  DoveTurnedHawk   Feb-04-05 11:50 PM   #74 
  - We're screwed. /nt  necso   Feb-04-05 06:38 PM   #20 
  - It looks like he did a fantastic job with the elections.  BrightKnight   Feb-04-05 06:53 PM   #25 
  - He kept elections honest in CA. Arnold has a vote-rigger in mind  genius   Feb-04-05 06:54 PM   #27 
  - Except for the one in Washington! He has integrity, and is also a  Ojai Person   Feb-04-05 07:31 PM   #39 
  - This has to be turned around quickly!!!!  Lostnote03   Feb-04-05 07:02 PM   #30 
  - I little money and some spin could fix this. -n/t  BrightKnight   Feb-04-05 07:04 PM   #33 
  - Dissenting  Jack Rabbit   Feb-04-05 07:03 PM   #31 
  - It's already being undone. Ventura County Board of Supervisors  Ojai Person   Feb-04-05 07:43 PM   #42 
  - Mainframes are more secure. -n/t  BrightKnight   Feb-04-05 08:26 PM   #57 
  - Whaa? At a Camarillo Democratic Club meeting last year we heard  catzies   Feb-05-05 11:43 AM   #85 
  - He may have brought some of this on himself,  Ojai Person   Feb-04-05 07:46 PM   #43 
  - It looks like a smear.  BrightKnight   Feb-04-05 07:58 PM   #48 
  - Get used to more stories like this  CAcyclist   Feb-04-05 07:59 PM   #50 
  - Why,why,why,why,why did everyone ignore this until NOW!!!!  CAcyclist   Feb-04-05 07:48 PM   #44 
  - This is not good people, Shelley was hip to the fraud potential  SoCalDemGrrl   Feb-04-05 07:54 PM   #46 
  - Couldn't have said it better myself  CAcyclist   Feb-04-05 10:00 PM   #69 
  - Link to Shelley's statement.  Kadie   Feb-04-05 08:03 PM   #51 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-04-05 08:03 PM   #53 
  - When will the Democrats ever learn  Piperay   Feb-04-05 08:13 PM   #55 
  - Action Plan! DU this and kick, please.  Liberty Belle   Feb-04-05 08:14 PM   #56 
  - Liberty Belle,  MelissaB   Feb-04-05 08:35 PM   #59 
  - I did email Shelly, and got this back  doodadem   Feb-04-05 09:22 PM   #63 
  - deleted - n/t  BrightKnight   Feb-04-05 11:03 PM   #73 
  - I'm getting nervous about California....a couple of weeks back I  Gloria   Feb-04-05 08:28 PM   #58 
  - Was the report biased? I find it hard to think the BCC is that.  PROGRESSIVE1   Feb-04-05 10:04 PM   #70 
  - "and bad behavior"??? What kind of charges are those?  leesa   Feb-04-05 09:02 PM   #61 
  - Proof this is a smear campaign  CAcyclist   Feb-04-05 09:37 PM   #64 
  - nominated for home page nt  CAcyclist   Feb-04-05 10:08 PM   #71 
  - I would think the top Dems in  zidzi   Feb-04-05 10:22 PM   #72 
  - kick  SoCalDemGrrl   Feb-05-05 01:48 AM   #78 
  - Not good.  dusty64   Feb-05-05 09:15 AM   #80 
  - So CA joins the Diebold Empire. How do Dems win the WH without those 55  ticapnews   Feb-05-05 10:29 AM   #81 
  - That's the worst part about it: unverifiable electronic voting  PurityOfEssence   Feb-05-05 12:26 PM   #88 
     - Time for soliciting signatures for a proposition...  calipendence   Feb-07-05 03:01 PM   #92 
  - Total Information Awareness abused by Imperial Powers means  tom_paine   Feb-07-05 03:34 PM   #93 
 

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