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42. A couple things.
The news is generally fantastic in the UK. The news should be removed from commerical influences. Protect the news.

However, there would be BETTER drama and comedy in the UK if there were a free market. The BBC does get to throw it's weight around thanks to the TV Tax, and there is certainly no end of writing teams who are willing to endure poverty for years before they get a hit (and then they burn out because there isn't enough money in British TV for producers to hire big, smart writing teams like they do in the US).

The US has its own problems thanks to the lack of competition coming from media monopolization (and, currently, the bad economy). But, extremely lucrative shows like Friends are simply not possible in the UK, because the economics don't work for the independant producers who come up with the great, novel ideas.
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  -Gilligan admits to 'slip of the tongue' demdave  Sep-17-03 03:22 PM   #0 
  - The govt asked for capitulation, not correction.  J B   Sep-17-03 03:38 PM   #1 
  - Where's the Professor  Parche   Sep-17-03 03:57 PM   #2 
  - incredible  dfong63   Sep-17-03 07:03 PM   #3 
  - Among his colleagues, Gilligan has a terrible reputation  AP   Sep-17-03 07:22 PM   #4 
     - Please give me some sources, this needs to be looked into more!  Zhade   Sep-17-03 07:30 PM   #5 
     - www.democracynow.org  AP   Sep-17-03 08:30 PM   #6 
        - http://www.webactive.com/page/407  AP   Sep-17-03 08:32 PM   #7 
     - the bottom line  dfong63   Sep-17-03 08:47 PM   #8 
     - dfong, you're posts are so full of hyperbole and animosity  AP   Sep-18-03 02:04 AM   #11 
     - Hmmm - high crimes eh ?! Lying about a blowjob...?  WingNOT   Sep-18-03 03:51 AM   #13 
        - There should have NEVER been  Booberdawg   Sep-18-03 04:21 AM   #16 
     - Not sure I'd go as far as you AP...  WingNOT   Sep-18-03 03:58 AM   #14 
     - Just how mental  Spentastic   Sep-18-03 04:31 AM   #18 
     - You think Bush didn't have a plan if Blair DIDN'T go in?  AP   Sep-18-03 04:58 AM   #21 
        - Will do  Spentastic   Sep-18-03 05:09 AM   #23 
           - My theory is, yes, some highly place British intelligence agents  AP   Sep-18-03 05:29 AM   #25 
              - Interesting conclusions  Spentastic   Sep-18-03 05:48 AM   #29 
                 - I think the power of the media shouldn't be underestimated  AP   Sep-18-03 06:25 AM   #40 
                    - Oh  Spentastic   Sep-18-03 07:01 AM   #47 
                       - Look, the US is afraid of a powerful EU  AP   Sep-18-03 07:12 AM   #50 
                          - Short Answer  Spentastic   Sep-18-03 07:21 AM   #52 
                             - I think that almost nothing that has happened in Iraq is unintended  AP   Sep-18-03 07:30 AM   #56 
     - AP, why would the BBC want the Tories back?  rjbcar27   Sep-18-03 05:37 AM   #26 
        - Tories want to sell off the Beeb even more than Blair  Thankfully_in_Britain   Sep-18-03 05:42 AM   #27 
        - Exactly.  rjbcar27   Sep-18-03 05:45 AM   #28 
           - It's triangulation  AP   Sep-18-03 05:58 AM   #32 
        - Because Labour agrees with EU that it can't justify publicly  AP   Sep-18-03 05:53 AM   #31 
           - I know that the Licence fee is unpopular with many people  rjbcar27   Sep-18-03 06:00 AM   #33 
           - I think you keep the public news service, and privatize the entertainment  AP   Sep-18-03 06:10 AM   #36 
              - Do you have Shares in Working title?  Spentastic   Sep-18-03 06:14 AM   #38 
              - That's all very well if the BBC was producing crap  rjbcar27   Sep-18-03 06:18 AM   #39 
                 - It could be better.  AP   Sep-18-03 06:34 AM   #41 
                    - Question then  Thankfully_in_Britain   Sep-18-03 07:21 AM   #53 
                    - Perhaps AP sould look at this  Spentastic   Sep-18-03 07:28 AM   #55 
                    - How many Americans know League of Gentlemen?  AP   Sep-18-03 07:33 AM   #57 
                       - So what?  Spentastic   Sep-18-03 07:35 AM   #60 
                       - Hello.. If it's good and it makes money the people who made  AP   Sep-18-03 07:41 AM   #63 
                          - But the BBC  Spentastic   Sep-18-03 07:46 AM   #67 
                             - The economy should be harnessed to create wealth and jobs  AP   Sep-18-03 07:58 AM   #70 
                                - No it isn't  Spentastic   Sep-18-03 08:26 AM   #78 
                                   - If you think it's so important to British culture to have Murder She Wrote  AP   Sep-18-03 08:43 AM   #81 
                                      - And the deregulated U.S market provides what  Spentastic   Sep-18-03 08:50 AM   #86 
                                         - Two things.  AP   Sep-18-03 09:02 AM   #88 
                       - There's lots of great British TV  AP   Sep-18-03 07:37 AM   #61 
                       - I know a few in the DU louge that know it.  Thankfully_in_Britain   Sep-18-03 07:41 AM   #64 
                    - The Book Group was the only good thing on British TV in last 3 years  AP   Sep-18-03 07:34 AM   #59 
                       - Er?  Spentastic   Sep-18-03 07:39 AM   #62 
                          - You're calling me liar because you don't like my taste in TV?  AP   Sep-18-03 07:47 AM   #68 
                             - No you wrote  Spentastic   Sep-18-03 08:20 AM   #76 
                                - You're calling my opinion a lie?  AP   Sep-18-03 08:41 AM   #80 
                                   - No  Spentastic   Sep-18-03 08:46 AM   #83 
                                      - You're just embarassing yourself.  AP   Sep-18-03 09:05 AM   #92 
                                         - Am I bollocks.  Spentastic   Sep-18-03 09:11 AM   #94 
                                            - You are totally entiteld to your opinion.  AP   Sep-18-03 09:35 AM   #98 
                                               - Well how magnanimous!  Spentastic   Sep-18-03 10:16 AM   #103 
                                               - Bush wouldn't be going to all the trouble if there wasn't something  AP   Sep-18-03 11:13 AM   #105 
                                               - I disagree AP  Spentastic   Sep-19-03 03:26 AM   #111 
                    - AP, your beliefs about UK TV watching are wrong  muriel_volestrangler   Sep-18-03 08:49 AM   #84 
                       - I believe the record for a single night of TV viewing in the UK  AP   Sep-18-03 08:57 AM   #87 
                          - I think your facts may be wrong AP  Thankfully_in_Britain   Sep-18-03 09:03 AM   #89 
                          - Looking in the Guardian Archives....  AP   Sep-18-03 09:17 AM   #95 
                             - Link please  Thankfully_in_Britain   Sep-18-03 10:01 AM   #102 
                                - www.guardian.co.uk  AP   Sep-18-03 11:34 AM   #107 
                                   - which gives just that paragraph  muriel_volestrangler   Sep-18-03 12:21 PM   #109 
                          - Any reference for that at all?  muriel_volestrangler   Sep-18-03 09:09 AM   #93 
                             - 24 Million  Oggy   Sep-18-03 09:25 AM   #96 
                             - Non-sporting events. In the context of the argument...we're talking about  AP   Sep-18-03 09:39 AM   #99 
                             - I'm gonna guess this was a prime-time, non-sporting event record  AP   Sep-18-03 09:26 AM   #97 
                                - Actually no  Oggy   Sep-18-03 09:43 AM   #101 
           - Hello Mr Murdoch  Spentastic   Sep-18-03 06:05 AM   #35 
           - A couple things.  AP   Sep-18-03 06:39 AM   #42 
           - I don't think that the news is going to be protected  Thankfully_in_Britain   Sep-18-03 06:45 AM   #43 
              - All the EU members complaining about the BBC have public news  AP   Sep-18-03 06:55 AM   #46 
           - Incidentally, this is one of the ways I don't get the British.  AP   Sep-18-03 06:47 AM   #44 
           - TV firms told to back UK film  muriel_volestrangler   Sep-18-03 12:36 PM   #110 
  - From the time the Guardian ran the list of actual changes to the dossier  tlb   Sep-17-03 10:06 PM   #9 
  - Thanks for commenting on this.  AP   Sep-18-03 01:58 AM   #10 
     - In my opinion Gilligan did his job well.  w4rma   Sep-18-03 02:14 AM   #12 
        - w4rma - IMHO both sides were in the wrong (in varying degrees)  WingNOT   Sep-18-03 04:05 AM   #15 
        - Don't confuse the issue.  AP   Sep-18-03 04:28 AM   #17 
        - The issue is more important than whether a journalist used 1 or 2 sources  w4rma   Sep-18-03 04:44 AM   #19 
           - You see, that's the version of the story one would want to sell if your  AP   Sep-18-03 04:55 AM   #20 
              - Personally....my interest is in sabotaging Blair.  RapidCreek   Sep-18-03 08:26 AM   #77 
                 - Yesterday, I heard a former CIA officer say that one CIA officer  AP   Sep-18-03 08:50 AM   #85 
                    - Ok, I'll bite...  RapidCreek   Sep-18-03 09:05 AM   #91 
                       - A Tory elected PM.  AP   Sep-18-03 09:41 AM   #100 
                          - AP, please give a coherent argument  muriel_volestrangler   Sep-18-03 10:17 AM   #104 
                             - Triangulation.  AP   Sep-18-03 11:32 AM   #106 
                                - AP, your argument still seems all over the place  muriel_volestrangler   Sep-18-03 12:13 PM   #108 
        - Hello WingNOT  Thankfully_in_Britain   Sep-18-03 05:06 AM   #22 
           - Oh God no!  Spentastic   Sep-18-03 05:24 AM   #24 
           - Hello TiB too :-)  WingNOT   Sep-18-03 06:02 AM   #34 
              - I actually thought Blair's 1st term got a better reception  Thankfully_in_Britain   Sep-18-03 06:12 AM   #37 
        - Classic New Labour Spin Operation  Briar   Sep-18-03 06:48 AM   #45 
        - I hope you're getting paid for that.  AP   Sep-18-03 07:02 AM   #48 
           - So all of us the live in the U.K are deluded  Spentastic   Sep-18-03 07:11 AM   #49 
           - Thank you Spentastic  Thankfully_in_Britain   Sep-18-03 07:20 AM   #51 
              - I feel sorry for you.  AP   Sep-18-03 07:22 AM   #54 
              - A hearty British  Spentastic   Sep-18-03 07:33 AM   #58 
              - Well argued my fellow Brits  Oggy   Sep-18-03 07:44 AM   #65 
                 - I agree  LivingInTheBubble   Sep-19-03 10:34 AM   #116 
           - If this  Briar   Sep-18-03 07:59 AM   #71 
              - Read it this way:  AP   Sep-18-03 08:04 AM   #72 
                 - And of course you are not brainwashed AP  Thankfully_in_Britain   Sep-18-03 08:10 AM   #73 
                 - Those last two posts were mostly the product of me hearing  AP   Sep-18-03 08:13 AM   #75 
                 - so now  Briar   Sep-18-03 08:41 AM   #79 
                    - You're really eager to move down that ad hom. path, aren't you?  AP   Sep-18-03 08:46 AM   #82 
                       - This underestimates  Briar   Sep-18-03 09:05 AM   #90 
                          - AP can whine and evade all he wants  Thankfully_in_Britain   Sep-19-03 06:06 AM   #112 
                             - "Whine"? This is what I said would happen.  AP   Sep-19-03 07:32 AM   #113 
                                - But  Spentastic   Sep-19-03 07:41 AM   #114 
                                - Still in denial AP?  Thankfully_in_Britain   Sep-19-03 07:50 AM   #115 
        - Indeed  RapidCreek   Sep-18-03 08:13 AM   #74 
  - Bummer! I thout you meant Whistle Ass! Misleading title!  robbedvoter   Sep-18-03 05:50 AM   #30 
  - The latest angle on this one is that Gilligan is a covert chum of  emad aisat sana   Sep-18-03 07:45 AM   #66 
  - Well....  Oggy   Sep-18-03 07:50 AM   #69 
  - Wow. I wonder how the Skipper felt about that!  MostlyBlackCat2   Sep-19-03 10:35 AM   #117 
 

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