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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 09:07 AM
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4. your extract misses the main point of the article, which is that
a guy was conducting church services in his home at the end of a cul-de-sac while the church was being built. Cars were completely clogging the road:

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"One night my wife and I came home and cars were lined up and down the street," Gieling said. "We couldn't even get into our house. Another Sunday two young kids were directing us where to park."
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I think I'd get a little twisted, too, at the idea of firetrucks, ambulances, and police cars being unable to get through if needed, or of not being able to get into or out of my own driveway. The idea that the law would be used against a family having kids' birthday parties is ridiculous--unless there are so many kids and so repeatedly that their parents' cars are a public hazard. The guy was a dumb@ss to think that using his home in a residential area as a church, esp. for that many people, would be okay. And once again the religionist is "victim":

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"The court sympathizes with the archdiocese," (the judge) wrote, "(but the) town's stated goals of health and safety are sufficient to justify the parking ordinance."

The archdiocese is taking the case to the Colorado Court of Appeals.

The judge's decision "is hostile to our parish, the archdiocese and to religion in general," Buelt wrote in this month's parish newsletter.
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oh wah and boohoo, so it's against the law to impinge on your neighbors' right to law and order and access to their own property--or we're "hostile to religion." The neighbors got it absolutely right: it's about being a good neighbor, nothing more and nothing less.
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  -Town says church ruining rural lifestyle (Church says town anti religous) BleedingHeartPatriot  Jan-29-05 07:57 AM   #0 
  - it's the new cudgel used to silence and bash  xchrom   Jan-29-05 08:38 AM   #1 
  - That's how I see it, too.  BiggJawn   Jan-29-05 08:46 AM   #3 
  - It Doesn't Have to Be a Church  Crisco   Jan-29-05 09:15 AM   #5 
     - That sounds like a raw deal  Cicero   Jan-29-05 09:46 AM   #9 
        - I strongly disagree.  TahitiNut   Jan-29-05 10:59 AM   #14 
        - Actually, they probably will make money  AliciaKeyedUp   Jan-29-05 11:01 AM   #15 
        - Yes, they still own it, but...  Cicero   Jan-29-05 12:22 PM   #19 
        - It's called democracy.  TahitiNut   Jan-29-05 12:38 PM   #20 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-29-05 03:35 PM   #24 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-29-05 06:35 PM   #25 
        - For some reason my original reply was deleted, so let me just say...  Cicero   Jan-29-05 08:23 PM   #29 
           - The rules weren't changed.  TahitiNut   Jan-29-05 10:17 PM   #30 
        - People Didn't View It As a Real Threat  Crisco   Jan-29-05 07:15 PM   #28 
        - "They still own what they bought" Absolutely! Use that when land  havocmom   Jan-29-05 01:13 PM   #21 
        - How did the school get a raw deal?  buddyhollysghost   Jan-29-05 11:25 AM   #17 
  - I agree there shouldn't be a church in a residential area, but...  Redstone   Jan-29-05 08:44 AM   #2 
  - Good Point  Tigress DEM   Jan-29-05 09:16 AM   #6 
  - Churches are almost ALWAYS in residential areas  AliciaKeyedUp   Jan-29-05 10:01 AM   #11 
  - I don't understand your logic  Toots   Jan-29-05 10:51 AM   #13 
  - your extract misses the main point of the article, which is that  ima_sinnic   Jan-29-05 09:07 AM   #4 
  - Found some background on this....  Tigress DEM   Jan-29-05 09:36 AM   #7 
     - sounds like typical "suburban sprawl"--a subdivision on edge of  ima_sinnic   Jan-29-05 09:45 AM   #8 
        - It's bad, church of 2000 members - 800 live in the community  Tigress DEM   Jan-29-05 01:45 PM   #22 
  - I grew up across the street from a Catholic church  localroger   Jan-29-05 09:59 AM   #10 
  - My sister lives two doors down from a church  proud2Blib   Jan-29-05 06:53 PM   #27 
  - As someone who lives in a town of less than 800...  Robb   Jan-29-05 10:31 AM   #12 
  - This is so true, Robb  buddyhollysghost   Jan-29-05 11:32 AM   #18 
  - There Were Alternatives to Holding Services in That House  CO Liberal   Jan-29-05 11:24 AM   #16 
  - Why is this still an issue? the church is built and open!  intheflow   Jan-29-05 01:53 PM   #23 
  - And so the Church is a Tool Now  stepnw1f   Jan-29-05 06:41 PM   #26 
 

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