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16. Fear of 'pension fund socialism' drives the 'Social Security reform'
effort too, but the White House and Rethuglican Congress have been much less candid about this than Ahnold's allies. Most people still don't realize just how radical Dubya's second-term agenda has become.

For Rethuglican ideologues, much more is at stake in Social Security "reform" than a huge payoff to greedy Wall Street supporters (20 percent of FICA as "management fees" for privatized Social Security).

For ultraright economic thinkers, including especially Alan Greenspan, designer of the currently up-for-grabs 'Social Security Trust Fund', nothing is more frightening than the prospect of workers' collective ownership of voting rights affecting the governance of large US corporations. As Social Security moves toward negative cash flow in ten or fifteen years, the right fears pressure from baby boomers will become overwhelming to "pre-fund" their retirement benefits with centrally-managed investments in stocks as well as T-bonds. When Greenspan was in charge of Reagan's Social Security Commission 24 years ago, he was very careful not to create any structure that would assure his 25 percent FICA tax increase would actually be invested to pay Baby Boomers; Social Security benefits.

The ultraright is incredibly afraid of repetition of successful progressive efforts, like South Africa Disinvestment, to use ordinary Americans' economic power against continued control by wealthy stockholders over the world's pursestrings. This is an aspect of the Social Security "reform" debate that has gotten very little attention so far. For this reason, I found this passage from the NY Times article especially informative:

"Some opponents of privatization also detect a subtler agenda among those pushing private accounts - to silence the voice of workers and their pension fund managers, who oversee some of the largest institutional investment accounts in the nation.

Calpers has been a leader in an effort to bring greater accountability to corporate boardrooms. It pulled its money out of tobacco companies in the 1990's, voted its shares against Michael Eisner, chairman of The Walt Disney Company and leaned on the Philippines to do more to protect worker health and safety.

Critics say the role of pension funds is to safeguard their members' money, not make social policy. "There is an overriding issue of what happens when you have these superlarge retirement systems straying from bottom line of the benefit of members and straying into corporate governance, even social engineering," said Jon Coupal, president of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association. "A motivation for us, as you move to a system of individual accounts, is that over time you will depoliticize the retirement system in the state of California."

(From http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/23/national/23calif.html... )
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  -NYT: Schwarzenegger Aims at State Pension System (Arnold privatizing) DeepModem Mom  Jan-23-05 01:19 AM   #0 
  - California, recall him. You've done it once. Do it again. Now.  roguevalley   Jan-23-05 01:26 AM   #1 
  - don't worry  shanti   Jan-23-05 02:42 AM   #4 
     - they have no political clout... but they do run the state :D  NuttyFluffers   Jan-23-05 05:52 AM   #8 
  - Does Arnie own stock in the private prison  Erika   Jan-23-05 01:53 AM   #2 
  - Now you know why Wall Street paid $500,000 a table to hear Ahnold  The Zanti Regent   Jan-23-05 12:20 PM   #18 
  - gropenator  shanti   Jan-23-05 02:40 AM   #3 
  - I'm so proud of Arnie to emigrate to the U.S.A.  Dirk39   Jan-23-05 03:10 AM   #5 
  - Yes, and this Jew remembers the last time an Austrian ran a great power  The Zanti Regent   Jan-23-05 12:22 PM   #19 
  - Arnie a Duel Citizen of USA and Austria  PROUDNWLIBERAL   Jan-23-05 05:33 AM   #6 
  - Swords or pistols?  TahitiNut   Jan-23-05 12:18 PM   #17 
     - (shucks)  TahitiNut   Jan-25-05 09:08 AM   #25 
  - he may get his way  xchrom   Jan-23-05 05:34 AM   #7 
  - I tend to think he will win this one.  Maria Celeste   Jan-23-05 06:45 AM   #10 
  - He has not played the game well, he simply has the RW media idolizing  leesa   Jan-23-05 09:49 AM   #13 
     - dumb or not -- lots of democrats voted for him  xchrom   Jan-23-05 12:49 PM   #22 
        - yes  shanti   Jan-23-05 01:08 PM   #23 
  - Welcome to Republican ownership California  lovuian   Jan-23-05 05:53 AM   #9 
  - Wonder how long it will take those folks on Min Wage who voted for him to  Pachamama   Jan-23-05 12:27 PM   #20 
  - Err...Arnie...CALPERS is already invested in the stockmarket  farmbo   Jan-23-05 07:08 AM   #11 
  - Sniff, sniff. I smell Karl Rove nearby . . .  no_hypocrisy   Jan-23-05 08:52 AM   #12 
  - ...and don't forget Grover Norqui$t  The Zanti Regent   Jan-23-05 12:29 PM   #21 
  - Arnie's reasoning behind disarming Calpers...  olddad56   Jan-23-05 10:29 AM   #14 
  - Kicking for more input from the Coast -- n/t  DeepModem Mom   Jan-23-05 11:26 AM   #15 
  - Fear of 'pension fund socialism' drives the 'Social Security reform'  AirAmFan   Jan-23-05 12:03 PM   #16 
  - Grover Norquist ----- know thy enemy, he is them  Robert Oak   Jan-23-05 01:16 PM   #24 
 

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