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86. I agree, cruelty often shows up at an early age
Edited on Fri Jan-21-05 03:48 PM by superconnected
that was in response the bull-frog post.

I'm often surprised at the lack of empathy and potential for cruelty some children/people have. Others can never have killed a cat/bullfrog, or hurt an animal.

One of my friends asked me once, how he didn't catch something bad is co-worker was doing. I said, because you're decent. You didn't think of it because you wouldn't do it.
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  -Pet store animals cooked in school Student prepares Guinea pig, rabbit seriousstan  Jan-21-05 02:01 PM   #0 
  - Is Bill Frist looking for an intern?  soleft   Jan-21-05 02:03 PM   #1 
  - You beat me to it  Coastie for Truth   Jan-21-05 02:16 PM   #13 
  - Good for him - the lad has talent - just don't forget the garlic!  papau   Jan-21-05 02:05 PM   #2 
  - Next we will  Coastie for Truth   Jan-21-05 02:19 PM   #22 
  - American Red Cross courses would be great - if they had them  papau   Jan-21-05 02:33 PM   #36 
  - I learned a really useful skill  Johnny Noshoes   Jan-21-05 08:46 PM   #136 
  - Is there something wrong with harvesting your own food?  IA_Seth   Jan-21-05 03:40 PM   #81 
     - how the fuck did he kill them?  leftchick   Jan-21-05 04:24 PM   #96 
     - What would be the right way to do it?  IA_Seth   Jan-21-05 04:26 PM   #97 
     - How do you kill your animals?  DrWeird   Jan-21-05 04:35 PM   #98 
     - I pet my animals  leftchick   Jan-21-05 04:53 PM   #99 
     - How do you kill your animals' food?  DrWeird   Jan-21-05 05:44 PM   #107 
        - vegan food  leftchick   Jan-21-05 06:23 PM   #112 
           - if you have a cat, their food has to have a certain protein in it,  don954   Jan-21-05 06:50 PM   #114 
              - I have an almost 18 yeard old cat  leftchick   Jan-21-05 06:56 PM   #116 
              - A vegan cat? lol Now THAT is animal abuse.  seriousstan   Jan-21-05 07:12 PM   #120 
              - obviously...  leftchick   Jan-21-05 07:43 PM   #126 
              - Let me cage you and the cat together for a week and feed neither of you  seriousstan   Jan-21-05 08:13 PM   #130 
                 - lol...  leftchick   Jan-21-05 08:17 PM   #132 
                    - Not to be gross here...  DoNotRefill   Jan-22-05 04:10 AM   #168 
                       - People stranded without food eat each other too  catgirl   Jan-22-05 07:52 AM   #186 
                          - I've seen cases....  DoNotRefill   Jan-22-05 07:21 PM   #219 
              - it is technically. the cat will eventually die horribly from this.  NuttyFluffers   Jan-21-05 10:29 PM   #146 
                 - If i am not mistaken they do put protien by products in the cat food  mordarlar   Jan-22-05 03:50 AM   #166 
                 - hmm, i must study this product...  NuttyFluffers   Jan-22-05 04:40 AM   #181 
                    - I have no specific names but if you want no meat...  mordarlar   Jan-22-05 04:49 AM   #182 
                    - Cats need wet food of some kind  catgirl   Jan-22-05 08:02 AM   #188 
                    - This vegetarian website has info on cat diets.  mordarlar   Jan-22-05 04:58 AM   #183 
                       - aha, there's that amino acid i was thinking of (have no cat, btw)  NuttyFluffers   Jan-22-05 05:28 AM   #184 
                       - thank you  mordarlar   Jan-22-05 06:16 AM   #185 
                       - It IS helpful and true  Puglover   Jan-23-05 09:39 AM   #227 
                 - Not true.  catgirl   Jan-22-05 07:56 AM   #187 
                 - This used to be the case  AlienGirl   Jan-22-05 07:14 PM   #217 
                    - taurine is not the only nutrition related issue for cats...  mordarlar   Jan-23-05 07:24 AM   #224 
              - Um...because cats are carnivores???  Spider Jerusalem   Jan-21-05 08:58 PM   #138 
              - Well, I am happy to say, at least he didn't cook a cat.  lizzy   Jan-21-05 09:36 PM   #142 
                 - Aren't they rodents, though?  kgfnally   Jan-21-05 11:45 PM   #152 
                 - What skill? Killing the pets you bought in a pet store?  lizzy   Jan-21-05 11:49 PM   #154 
                    - Yes, a truly useful skill.  dicksteele   Jan-22-05 03:15 AM   #165 
                 - When a cat is cooked and eaten it's not called a "cat" any more...  DoNotRefill   Jan-22-05 04:12 AM   #169 
                 - Central/South Americans eat guinea pigs  LostinVA   Jan-23-05 08:35 AM   #225 
     - Inexpensive biomechanical method  moindependent   Jan-21-05 05:19 PM   #104 
     - oh for heaven's sake!!  rodeodance   Jan-21-05 07:45 PM   #128 
     - A quick clean cut across the throat is the best way.  Spider Jerusalem   Jan-21-05 08:56 PM   #137 
     - he probably knocked their heads in  kgfnally   Jan-21-05 11:34 PM   #149 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-21-05 05:11 PM   #101 
  - You don't buy animals from a PET store to eat.  baba   Jan-21-05 02:35 PM   #39 
  - No, you buy rabbits and rodents from a pet store to feed to snakes  CAcyclist   Jan-21-05 03:21 PM   #68 
  - Are you that lady  proud2Blib   Jan-21-05 08:18 PM   #133 
  - when i lived on a farm, we farmed rabits for meat & pets.  don954   Jan-21-05 06:52 PM   #115 
  - Really?  DoNotRefill   Jan-22-05 04:16 AM   #172 
  - how about learning to grow vegetables  superconnected   Jan-21-05 03:43 PM   #85 
     - Under Bush, anything may be possible, be patient.  uppityperson   Jan-21-05 04:00 PM   #88 
     - Can you also WEAR THEM IF YOU'RE COLD?  kgfnally   Jan-21-05 11:48 PM   #153 
     - Wow i had to look this up see below  mordarlar   Jan-22-05 03:56 AM   #167 
     - Now we're getting into a Tool song....  DoNotRefill   Jan-22-05 04:18 AM   #174 
     - Didn't know this was a pick on the vegetarian topic  catgirl   Jan-22-05 08:10 AM   #189 
        - We're not picking on vegetarians, simply the kid was ok  uppityperson   Jan-22-05 03:27 PM   #200 
     - Ask your local homeless person...  DoNotRefill   Jan-22-05 04:17 AM   #173 
  - Although I find taking animals from a pet store and eating them icky  Warpy   Jan-21-05 02:05 PM   #3 
  - How many of the parents who are complaining...  purduejake   Jan-21-05 02:09 PM   #4 
  - ewwwwwwwwwwwwww, you eat cows? disgusting creatures  uppityperson   Jan-21-05 02:29 PM   #32 
     - I'm crazy about cows!  Xipe Totec   Jan-21-05 03:24 PM   #70 
     - I know. I hate eating animals...  purduejake   Jan-21-05 04:06 PM   #90 
  - I have to agree..  mutus_frutex   Jan-21-05 02:11 PM   #7 
  - Maybe so  proud2Blib   Jan-21-05 08:23 PM   #134 
  - Totally agree.  catgirl   Jan-22-05 08:16 AM   #190 
     - I am a city girl  proud2Blib   Jan-22-05 09:08 PM   #222 
  - Thank you...  sendero   Jan-22-05 08:34 AM   #193 
  - Those kids could have gotten seriously physically ill, too.  quiet.american   Jan-21-05 02:10 PM   #5 
  - What health risk? No more than any cooking class risk.  seriousstan   Jan-21-05 02:15 PM   #12 
  - Who knew where he'd actually gotten those carcasses from?  quiet.american   Jan-21-05 02:23 PM   #25 
  - According to the article, the teacher didn't know.  Xithras   Jan-21-05 02:39 PM   #41 
     - That seems even worse to me, to tell you the truth.  quiet.american   Jan-21-05 03:02 PM   #60 
  - What problem?  mudderfudder77   Jan-21-05 02:10 PM   #6 
  - How about the Moral issue?  Ripley   Jan-21-05 02:17 PM   #16 
     - Then it's not a moral issue, but a cultural one  Xipe Totec   Jan-21-05 02:23 PM   #24 
     - Okay, cultural, whatever.  Ripley   Jan-21-05 02:35 PM   #37 
        - I agree with the cultural standard point  Xipe Totec   Jan-21-05 02:46 PM   #48 
     - Yes there is a moral issue  Coastie for Truth   Jan-21-05 02:25 PM   #28 
     - People routinely buy small mammals and fish to feed to predatory pets.  igil   Jan-21-05 03:32 PM   #73 
     - There is no such thing as a "no kill shelter".  seriousstan   Jan-21-05 03:35 PM   #76 
     - Your title is misleading  catgirl   Jan-22-05 08:27 AM   #191 
     - wrong, wrong, WRONG  kgfnally   Jan-21-05 11:56 PM   #155 
        - How is a "feeder" rat differant from a "pet" rat  mordarlar   Jan-22-05 04:16 AM   #171 
     - Showing where food comes from is not forcing them to eat their pets  uppityperson   Jan-21-05 02:26 PM   #29 
     - This is Cleveland, not South America.  Ripley   Jan-21-05 02:39 PM   #42 
     - Plenty of rabbits in the grocery stores around here.  FreeCajun   Jan-21-05 02:46 PM   #47 
     - That ain't Cleveland.  Ripley   Jan-21-05 02:52 PM   #55 
        - There's lots of meat rabbit breeders in Ohio.  CAcyclist   Jan-21-05 03:27 PM   #71 
        - No, gator tastes a cross between catfish and chicken.  FreeCajun   Jan-21-05 05:14 PM   #103 
        - Rabbit meat is plentiful in Cleveland  Tacos al Carbon   Jan-21-05 07:04 PM   #118 
     - Ever been to a big Asian grocery store ?  uppityperson   Jan-21-05 02:48 PM   #49 
     - Yeah, I've seen lots of weird stuff.  Ripley   Jan-21-05 02:54 PM   #56 
     - I just saw a rabbit in the market yesterday  Xithras   Jan-21-05 02:51 PM   #54 
     - Rochester had rabbit; so does Houston.  igil   Jan-21-05 03:39 PM   #79 
     - "This is Cleveland, not South America."  Anakin Skywalker   Jan-21-05 05:04 PM   #100 
     - This is the USA, not ancient Rome  moindependent   Jan-21-05 05:40 PM   #106 
     - I have friends who are newly American citizens. When i go there i eat what  mordarlar   Jan-22-05 04:20 AM   #175 
     - Rabbits are also universally acknowledged as food.  kgfnally   Jan-22-05 12:02 AM   #156 
     - It is a very rural area outside of Cleveland. Most people probably...  mordarlar   Jan-22-05 04:13 AM   #170 
     - Yes, but that misses the point  Cicero   Jan-21-05 02:50 PM   #52 
     - Meat=animal, no pet store agreement to not eat, though shelters do  uppityperson   Jan-21-05 03:09 PM   #63 
     - Where do animals bought at live markets come in?  igil   Jan-21-05 03:41 PM   #82 
     - A valuable lesson? Where does you food comes from-  lizzy   Jan-21-05 09:48 PM   #143 
        - That's what my snake thought; it's where I got the feeder rats, too  kgfnally   Jan-22-05 12:15 AM   #157 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-21-05 03:01 PM   #58 
  - My dad raised rabbits during the depression for his family to eat  bleedingheart   Jan-21-05 02:12 PM   #8 
  - Tell me about the rabbits....  AngryAmish   Jan-21-05 02:13 PM   #10 
     - it was way before my time...  bleedingheart   Jan-21-05 02:16 PM   #15 
        - In "Of Mice and Men"  AngryAmish   Jan-21-05 02:18 PM   #19 
           - oh....I didn't remember that line  bleedingheart   Jan-21-05 02:19 PM   #20 
  - In our culture, they are companion animals  Mizmoon   Jan-21-05 02:13 PM   #9 
  - Why call the teacher a loon?  proud2Blib   Jan-21-05 08:35 PM   #135 
  - Guinea pigs are not "wild animals"  Mizmoon   Jan-21-05 10:20 PM   #145 
     - From reading the article,  proud2Blib   Jan-22-05 10:14 AM   #197 
     - Guinea pigs are like cows, some places wild, some domestic  uppityperson   Jan-22-05 03:31 PM   #201 
  - Wha???  kgfnally   Jan-22-05 12:18 AM   #158 
     - If you bought a rabbit in a PET store  Mizmoon   Jan-22-05 08:31 AM   #192 
     - animals are here to survive  catgirl   Jan-22-05 08:41 AM   #194 
  - That's all folks!  Ezlivin   Jan-21-05 02:15 PM   #11 
  - Later students who ate the meat ......  Botany   Jan-21-05 02:16 PM   #14 
  - It is so cold in PA and OH that the kid probably figured that  bleedingheart   Jan-21-05 02:18 PM   #18 
  - I live in Ohio .....  Botany   Jan-21-05 02:32 PM   #35 
     - My students when I taught in Cleveland did.  knitter4democracy   Jan-21-05 03:18 PM   #66 
  - Don't eat the squirrel.  tblue37   Jan-21-05 04:09 PM   #91 
     - Even cooked?  Botany   Jan-21-05 04:21 PM   #94 
     - Cooking doesn' t affect prions.  tblue37   Jan-21-05 11:24 PM   #147 
     - Even cooked.  kgfnally   Jan-22-05 12:21 AM   #159 
     - Link to source, please. /nt  Dave Reynolds   Jan-21-05 07:59 PM   #129 
        - I read about it in the newspaper a couple of years ago.  tblue37   Jan-21-05 11:40 PM   #150 
  - Pot-belly pig........pet on Saturday, breakfast on Sunday. Perfectly legal  seriousstan   Jan-21-05 02:17 PM   #17 
  - The whole pet store thing was creepy and wrong  Cats Against Frist   Jan-21-05 02:19 PM   #21 
  - Pet store animals may not be safe to eat  uppityperson   Jan-21-05 02:20 PM   #23 
  - Then it's a health issue, not an animal cruelty issue  Xipe Totec   Jan-21-05 02:31 PM   #33 
  - Thinking more, who knows what wild ones ate and diseased with  uppityperson   Jan-21-05 02:50 PM   #53 
  - The health department *should* investigate.  sleepyhead   Jan-21-05 03:23 PM   #69 
     - Agreed. Definitely a health concern  Xipe Totec   Jan-21-05 03:42 PM   #84 
     - ok, now there's an argument I *can* agree with  kgfnally   Jan-22-05 12:25 AM   #160 
  - The vultures in India (used in sky burials) are dying out due to  Ruby Romaine   Jan-21-05 03:32 PM   #74 
  - Guinea pigs are food animals in Peru  blindpig   Jan-21-05 02:24 PM   #26 
  - I understand  oneighty   Jan-21-05 06:00 PM   #111 
     - One of my favorite Chinese food restaurants  Horse with no Name   Jan-21-05 09:35 PM   #141 
  - This kid sounds like another Jeff Dahmer or George Bush in the making. NT  Benhurst   Jan-21-05 02:24 PM   #27 
  - Jeff Dahmer  Coastie for Truth   Jan-21-05 02:29 PM   #31 
     - And George Walker Bush went around cramming lit firecrackers  Benhurst   Jan-21-05 02:38 PM   # 
     - I agree, cruelty often shows up at an early age  superconnected   Jan-21-05 03:44 PM   #86 
     - Is this true? Please tell you're joking!  catgirl   Jan-22-05 08:48 AM   #195 
        - Unfortunately not. See link below.  Benhurst   Jan-22-05 11:36 AM   #198 
     - FACT - Hitler drank milk -FACT  seriousstan   Jan-21-05 03:37 PM   #78 
     - My father is a psychologist for a state prison  Lorien   Jan-21-05 05:45 PM   #108 
        - He killed the animals in order to cook and eat them, not for fun.  seriousstan   Jan-21-05 07:09 PM   #119 
        - Ummm...  DoNotRefill   Jan-22-05 04:26 AM   #176 
        - Aw, your cats are beautiful!  catgirl   Jan-22-05 08:51 AM   #196 
     - Fact-  DrWeird   Jan-21-05 03:41 PM   #83 
        - oh yes they are  FizzFuzz   Jan-21-05 07:19 PM   #123 
  - A rabbit I can understand, but a guniea pig?  Xithras   Jan-21-05 02:28 PM   #30 
  - Reading the article--the boy said he was going to hunt ....  Bridget Burke   Jan-21-05 02:31 PM   #34 
  - Sounds like a lot of fisherman that I know - after a bad day buying a fish  papau   Jan-21-05 02:38 PM   #40 
  - Living Skills  Xipe Totec   Jan-21-05 02:41 PM   #45 
  - Next week: roadkill  LizW   Jan-21-05 02:35 PM   #38 
  - Vermont Roadkill is by law saved for the schools!  papau   Jan-21-05 02:39 PM   #43 
  - Ewwwwwwwwwwwww!  LizW   Jan-21-05 02:41 PM   #46 
  - I know people who eat fresh roadkill....  DoNotRefill   Jan-22-05 04:29 AM   #177 
  - Next, on IRON CHEF  swimmernsecretsea   Jan-21-05 02:40 PM   #44 
  - Gezzzz..........  Rainscents   Jan-21-05 02:49 PM   #50 
  - Now that's just evil  Cicero   Jan-21-05 03:06 PM   #62 
  - Wine? how uncouth!  Xipe Totec   Jan-21-05 03:36 PM   #77 
     - Thanks  Sentath   Jan-21-05 03:46 PM   #87 
        - Yea, all kidding aside, it was a pretty dumb move  Xipe Totec   Jan-21-05 04:05 PM   #89 
  - Cows ARE pet store animals.  sportndandy   Jan-21-05 02:50 PM   #51 
  - Joy of Cooking Game and Variety Meat section list  uppityperson   Jan-21-05 02:58 PM   #57 
  - FOR HUNTERS, not PET STORE SHOPPING.  Ripley   Jan-21-05 03:09 PM   #64 
     - I bet somewhere in the US tonight fluffy is being served for dinner  bleedingheart   Jan-21-05 03:29 PM   #72 
     - I wouldn't have a problem with that.  DrWeird   Jan-21-05 04:11 PM   #92 
     - can you make a sweater from an angora cat?  DoNotRefill   Jan-22-05 04:31 AM   #178 
     - The rabbits served in markets and those sold in the pet stores...  mordarlar   Jan-22-05 04:34 AM   #179 
  - I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't more common.  Bleachers7   Jan-21-05 03:02 PM   #59 
  - OFFS... this ain't no thang.  nosmokes   Jan-21-05 03:05 PM   #61 
  - Exactly. If you're gonna eat it, you should know if (nonbibilical sense)  uppityperson   Jan-21-05 03:15 PM   #65 
     - LOL...certainly gives a new twist for the "he's another Dahmer" crowd  rinsd   Jan-21-05 05:11 PM   #102 
  - I ate Guinea pig in Peru, it was quite tasty  KingoftheJungle   Jan-21-05 03:19 PM   #67 
  - Never had guinea, but I've had armadillo  Xipe Totec   Jan-21-05 04:19 PM   #93 
  - So how about eating a human being  Lorien   Jan-21-05 05:51 PM   #109 
     - eat a puppy, eat a kitten--fun to watch them fight for life! mmgood!!  NIGHT TRIPPER   Jan-21-05 11:30 PM   #148 
     - ask the team that crashed in the Andes n/t  kgfnally   Jan-22-05 12:38 AM   #161 
  - Someone needs to go to jail over this. I'm serious.  progressivebydesign   Jan-21-05 03:34 PM   #75 
  - I'd imagine most of these kids eat meat.  DrWeird   Jan-21-05 04:24 PM   #95 
  - That's irrelevant  moindependent   Jan-21-05 05:54 PM   #110 
     - LOL!!  jbm   Jan-21-05 07:18 PM   #122 
     - But Terrance, you're SUCH a pigfucker!  kgfnally   Jan-22-05 12:40 AM   #162 
  - Poll for vegetarian or not link  uppityperson   Jan-21-05 03:39 PM   #80 
  - Afterward, the "protesting parents" took their kids to McDonalds for a  karlrschneider   Jan-21-05 05:23 PM   #105 
  - I have to add my two cents here.....  llmart   Jan-21-05 06:49 PM   #113 
  - "PETS OR MEAT"  TroubleMan   Jan-21-05 06:59 PM   #117 
  - It's funny how freaked out people are by that scene  geniph   Jan-21-05 07:21 PM   #124 
     - I think the reason that scene freaked me out  proud2Blib   Jan-22-05 08:50 PM   #220 
  - It's a bit insensitive, but all mammals are potential food  geniph   Jan-21-05 07:14 PM   #121 
  - Anybody else here have the following contradictions:  VirginiaDem   Jan-21-05 07:31 PM   #125 
  - Very interesting info on guinea pigs in the Andes...  VirginiaDem   Jan-21-05 07:44 PM   #127 
  - Am vegetarian  AlienGirl   Jan-22-05 12:50 AM   #163 
  - Jeffrey Dahmer and Ed Gein both started out this way!  MadisonProgressive   Jan-21-05 08:17 PM   #131 
  - True  kwolf68   Jan-21-05 09:00 PM   #140 
  - And don't forget George W Bush*  MadisonProgressive   Jan-22-05 01:23 AM   #164 
  - Um - it wasn't their "throats" - try the "other end".  TankLV   Jan-22-05 03:40 PM   #203 
     - What a prevert!  MadisonProgressive   Jan-22-05 04:45 PM   #204 
  - Wow...so my kosher butcher is really a serial killer?  DoNotRefill   Jan-22-05 04:35 AM   #180 
     - Does he butcher pets?  MadisonProgressive   Jan-22-05 04:48 PM   #207 
        - I don't think he has pets....  DoNotRefill   Jan-22-05 07:18 PM   #218 
  - No he didn't.  livinginphotographs   Jan-22-05 12:46 PM   #199 
  - No, you are wrong.  MadisonProgressive   Jan-22-05 04:46 PM   #205 
     - Nope.  Mills Street   Jan-22-05 05:15 PM   #211 
     - Nope.  MadisonProgressive   Jan-22-05 05:33 PM   #212 
        - Do you live where I live?  Mills Street   Jan-22-05 08:56 PM   #221 
           - Since you're from Madtown - should have guessed by the  MadisonProgressive   Jan-23-05 06:34 AM   #223 
              - I agree with you in this case.  Mills Street   Jan-23-05 04:33 PM   #228 
     - No, there's not.  livinginphotographs   Jan-23-05 09:35 AM   #226 
  - Butchering animals to eat or protesting bush/cheney?  uppityperson   Jan-22-05 03:36 PM   #202 
     - Pickles aren't animals - try again  MadisonProgressive   Jan-22-05 04:47 PM   #206 
        - My comment was causation, not what is an animal. And a question aside  uppityperson   Jan-22-05 07:02 PM   #214 
  - What a joke  kwolf68   Jan-21-05 08:59 PM   #139 
  - This is very strange indeed. Something is just plain wrong with that.  TankLV   Jan-21-05 09:57 PM   #144 
  - Snakes should not be fed live food  AlienGirl   Jan-22-05 07:09 PM   #215 
  - Rabbit is delicious but I wouldn't care to eat a guinea pig.  DemBones DemBones   Jan-21-05 11:45 PM   #151 
  - OH MY GOD!!!  Megahurtz   Jan-22-05 05:04 PM   #208 
  - Read the article, and you're missing the point of many these posts  uppityperson   Jan-22-05 07:10 PM   #216 
  - oh christ. kill me now. please.  roguevalley   Jan-22-05 05:06 PM   #209 
  - I knew the No Child Left Behind is underfunded, but this is Ridiculous  98geoduck   Jan-22-05 05:07 PM   #210 
  - Only vegetarians can protest the boy's actions. Meat eaters are guilty. n/  jody   Jan-22-05 06:42 PM   #213 
 

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