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Sen. Clinton urges use of faith-based initiatives

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On the eve of the presidential inauguration, US Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton last night embraced an issue some pundits say helped seal a second term for George W. Bush: acceptance of the role of faith in addressing social ills.

In a speech at a fund-raising dinner for a Boston-based organization that promotes faith-based solutions to social problems, Clinton said there has been a "false division" between faith-based approaches to social problems and respect for the separation of church of state.

"There is no contradiction between support for faith-based initiatives and upholding our constitutional principles," said Clinton, a New York Democrat who often is mentioned as a possible presidential candidate in 2008.

Addressing a crowd of more than 500, including many religious leaders, at Boston's Fairmont Copley Plaza, Clinton invoked God more than half a dozen times, at one point declaring, "I've always been a praying person."

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles...

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Sen. Clinton urges use of faith-based initiatives	seriousstan	Jan-20-05 10:45 AM	#0
Ah yes, dear Hilary, one of the better Republican Senators out there	MadHound	Jan-20-05 10:46 AM	#1
not surprising, i don't agree with this ploy at all	ally_sc	Jan-20-05 12:50 PM	#74
Hillary spoke to "TenPoint Leadership Foundation" which is a 501c3	papau	Jan-21-05 03:20 PM	#274
I always considered "Bill" a Remocrat too. And I didn't vote for him....	zann725	Jan-20-05 04:33 PM	#122
Feed the right-wing "consumption",...right here,...on DU.	Just Me	Jan-20-05 10:56 PM	#211
Here, Here!	AuntiBush	Jan-21-05 12:54 AM	#225
Hillary started as a Republican in upper middle class Park	ikojo	Jan-21-05 08:04 AM	#239
I hope I don't have to vote for her.	Dufaeth	Jan-20-05 10:47 AM	#2
Hillary you are treading on some thin Donna Summer records	sui generis	Jan-20-05 10:47 AM	#3
??????	GOPBasher	Jan-20-05 10:49 AM	#4
Can we say	Eloriel	Jan-20-05 02:24 PM	#100
Can you say...	justy329	Jan-20-05 04:42 PM	#126
well, I say	Donailin	Jan-20-05 10:54 PM	#209
Un huh, stealing wins them too. n/t	VegasWolf	Jan-20-05 10:57 PM	#212
You mean like the Democrats pandering on Iraq and the so called	ikojo	Jan-21-05 08:09 AM	#241
'98 was a victory	justy329	Jan-21-05 05:53 PM	#286
Ok I'm assumming here that you are not	pokercat999	Jan-22-05 01:17 AM	#299
Pandering is the rule, not the exception	seaofcrisis	Jan-21-05 03:24 PM	#276
clinton was the best	no_to_war_economy	Jan-20-05 10:49 AM	#5
GET REAL!!!	justy329	Jan-20-05 04:36 PM	#124
You might want to look at voting records.	FrustratedDemInNC	Jan-20-05 06:30 PM	#149
actually, he was not.	justy329	Jan-20-05 06:39 PM	#151
FYI: MANY Americans were opposed to the US entering	ikojo	Jan-21-05 08:20 AM	#242
A little note on the right to choose	Donailin	Jan-20-05 10:59 PM	#213
so you're saying it's OK	justy329	Jan-21-05 12:05 AM	#222
hell no	Donailin	Jan-22-05 01:32 AM	#300
He's Just Trying To Lull Us To Sleep Until It's TOO LATE	AndyTiedye	Jan-21-05 11:26 AM	#259
I doubt it, but you never know...if they did do such a preposterous	Bono71	Jan-21-05 11:34 AM	#260
No, There Wouldn't	AndyTiedye	Jan-21-05 01:42 PM	#268
well yeah, and a lot of it would be from their own party.	Donailin	Jan-22-05 01:37 AM	#302
I dunno man	Donailin	Jan-22-05 01:36 AM	#301
What a sad day.	The Backlash Cometh	Jan-20-05 10:50 AM	#6
That is the damn truth	hiley	Jan-20-05 11:08 AM	#20
Most of these "churches" don't have a proper definition of "poverty."	The Backlash Cometh	Jan-20-05 11:26 AM	#36
Most religious groups are evil.	Taragui Junkie	Jan-20-05 01:34 PM	#84
"Government is neutral" Very good statement.	The Backlash Cometh	Jan-20-05 01:43 PM	#86
they also tend to be very discriminatory towards alternative lifestyles...	formernaderite	Jan-20-05 02:01 PM	#91
It never is	Donailin	Jan-20-05 11:02 PM	#214
Does she really think this is a winning strategy for 2008??	Connie_Corleone	Jan-20-05 10:51 AM	#7
Apparently she does think it is a winning strategy. n/t	Bono71	Jan-20-05 11:35 AM	#43
The DLC does	Lorien	Jan-20-05 12:40 PM	#65
I've long suspected Hillary is a major league Dino	soleft	Jan-20-05 10:51 AM	#8
This has Bill Clinton written all over it, and in my view a	Bono71	Jan-20-05 10:53 AM	#9
No more compromise	Dufaeth	Jan-20-05 10:54 AM	#12
No we won't. n/t	Bono71	Jan-20-05 10:57 AM	#15
Yes, you will..	mutus_frutex	Jan-20-05 11:13 AM	#26
Get over it...	Bono71	Jan-20-05 11:29 AM	#38
most Iranians did not want a theocracy in '79	Charlie Brown	Jan-20-05 01:23 PM	#80
Oh I see...we are now in danger of becoming Iran...	Bono71	Jan-20-05 03:57 PM	#110
small nitpick--Hitler DID advertise his manias, in Mein Kampf.	FizzFuzz	Jan-21-05 08:41 PM	#296
I don't need to get over it..	mutus_frutex	Jan-20-05 01:58 PM	#89
Only, unlike most theocracies, the Bush administration	Bono71	Jan-20-05 03:58 PM	#111
OK, man, denial is great...	mutus_frutex	Jan-20-05 05:39 PM	#143
Don't let the door... n/t	Bono71	Jan-20-05 05:41 PM	#144
WTF are YOU ABOUT?!?!?!	Just Me	Jan-20-05 11:04 PM	#215
I am 'about' Democrats winning again. n/t	Bono71	Jan-21-05 10:50 AM	#254
He is about irrational appeasement. This works very well for the GOP	leesa	Jan-21-05 07:19 PM	#289
Yes, it's all just Bush that is behind it.	Sterling	Jan-20-05 07:19 PM	#154
I guess you don't watch the news. We are Taliban Lite	clovis29	Jan-20-05 11:09 PM	#216
We've been a mild Christian theocracy	SimpleTrend	Jan-20-05 11:57 AM	#55
That must be news to Jewish politicians like Lieberman, n/t	Bono71	Jan-20-05 12:46 PM	#71
Lieberman is a weasel nt	mutus_frutex	Jan-20-05 02:02 PM	#92
I forget, is he Christian or Jewish?	Bono71	Jan-20-05 02:15 PM	#98
That is the impression that most secular democracies have of the US	mutus_frutex	Jan-20-05 02:00 PM	#90
Really? I suppose there will be a law passed that we all	Bono71	Jan-20-05 02:16 PM	#99
I doubt it, but	mutus_frutex	Jan-20-05 03:17 PM	#106
What do you need? Tell me, are we more like governments	Bono71	Jan-20-05 03:41 PM	#107
And people accuse me of being black and white.. :-)	mutus_frutex	Jan-20-05 05:13 PM	#135
If you think we are closer to Saudi Arabia (which tolerates only	Bono71	Jan-20-05 05:15 PM	#136
Nice non sequitur..	mutus_frutex	Jan-20-05 05:30 PM	#140
What?!	Bono71	Jan-20-05 05:34 PM	#142
I find it amusing when	mutus_frutex	Jan-20-05 05:57 PM	#147
If you would write something that	Bono71	Jan-20-05 08:01 PM	#164
try paying attention to current politics	ldf	Jan-20-05 08:44 PM	#174
Thanks...	mutus_frutex	Jan-20-05 08:59 PM	#176
No those who think the US is closer to Saudi Arabia than	Bono71	Jan-20-05 09:08 PM	#180
I had given up on this, but	mutus_frutex	Jan-21-05 02:35 AM	#231
Well we can agree on one thing...	Bono71	Jan-21-05 10:51 AM	#255
Excuse me...	Bono71	Jan-20-05 09:07 PM	#179
We?? It's just you baby!	leesa	Jan-21-05 07:22 PM	#291
Excuse me, Bono...	truth2power	Jan-20-05 07:19 PM	#153
I think I heard what you are talking about and it disturbed me	Bono71	Jan-20-05 08:04 PM	#165
You read too much into the word fascism	KevinJ	Jan-20-05 08:56 PM	#175
In four years we will be having another democratic election...	Bono71	Jan-20-05 09:12 PM	#181
Sorry, wrong again	KevinJ	Jan-20-05 09:18 PM	#182
No you are wrong...Stalin was not democratically elected...	Bono71	Jan-20-05 09:23 PM	#185
I never said he was	KevinJ	Jan-20-05 09:37 PM	#187
In case you didn't hear, the turnout on election day	Bono71	Jan-20-05 09:48 PM	#193
No, we're just keeping dubious company	KevinJ	Jan-20-05 10:16 PM	#201
Now you're putting words in my keyboard...	Bono71	Jan-20-05 10:36 PM	#203
Spend a few days in Gitmo...	KevinJ	Jan-20-05 11:52 PM	#220
Slap in the face? No it's not.	truth2power	Jan-20-05 10:01 PM	#198
I guess we'll have to disagree...	Bono71	Jan-20-05 10:07 PM	#200
Jean Carnahan (FORMER Senator from Missouri)	ikojo	Jan-21-05 08:40 AM	#244
Several issues here....	truth2power	Jan-21-05 11:41 AM	#261
Ah yes, the old	Bono71	Jan-21-05 11:47 AM	#262
You read fast!	truth2power	Jan-21-05 12:08 PM	#263
I agree Bush is a sociopath...no argument there. n/t	Bono71	Jan-21-05 01:28 PM	#267
You are so out of touch with reality. WAKE UP!	leesa	Jan-20-05 10:48 PM	#206
Answer this...	Bono71	Jan-20-05 10:50 PM	#207
And did they need that rhetoric. NO.	leesa	Jan-21-05 07:17 PM	#288
Please friend, wake up	MadHound	Jan-20-05 11:11 AM	#22
Last 24 years- 16 years republican, 8 years Bill Clinton...	Bono71	Jan-20-05 11:33 AM	#42
Yep, you're right,	MadHound	Jan-20-05 12:38 PM	#64
Last 150 years	sandnsea	Jan-20-05 05:04 PM	#132
Clinton would have won with or without the little guy from Tejas...	Bono71	Jan-20-05 05:09 PM	#133
Okay	sandnsea	Jan-20-05 05:29 PM	#139
So Hillary isn't the savior	OldVlad	Jan-20-05 07:11 PM	#152
I know what you mean...to me the most	Bono71	Jan-20-05 09:18 PM	#183
Maybe they'll learn after the rejection of 04	OldVlad	Jan-20-05 09:55 PM	#195
I sometimes feel that way, but in the end I am	Bono71	Jan-20-05 10:00 PM	#197
Nice posts man	Boosterman	Jan-21-05 08:47 AM	#245
I agree with that 100%...	Bono71	Jan-21-05 10:46 AM	#253
Taliban rule is faith based..is that a good idea?	nothingshocksmeanymore	Jan-20-05 11:15 AM	#28
Where did she state we should adopt a Taliban style	Bono71	Jan-20-05 11:30 AM	#39
Do you believe no faith based money has gone to the likes of Moon?	nothingshocksmeanymore	Jan-20-05 11:41 AM	#46
Again, if we are talking presidential politics, the statements	Bono71	Jan-20-05 11:44 AM	#48
I am not a bro and that is not the point	nothingshocksmeanymore	Jan-20-05 12:06 PM	#58
Just an observation	The Straight Story	Jan-21-05 02:27 AM	#230
How? They'll vote for the real deal instead...	jab105	Jan-20-05 11:46 AM	#50
Almost correct...	Bono71	Jan-20-05 11:49 AM	#52
After We Give Them The Social Programs, Do We Give The Schools Too?	AndyTiedye	Jan-20-05 02:13 PM	#97
Where did HC state we would GIVE THEM the social programs...	Bono71	Jan-20-05 04:02 PM	#115
You Are Ducking the Question	AndyTiedye	Jan-20-05 09:41 PM	#192
I agree with what you write...not trying to duck the question...	Bono71	Jan-20-05 09:51 PM	#194
so I suppose we should take abortion and gay rights off too	klyon	Jan-20-05 04:35 PM	#123
I think those issues are different...with respect to	Bono71	Jan-20-05 05:00 PM	#129
Not sure I understand your reasoning	Charlie Brown	Jan-20-05 10:05 PM	#199
No, no, no...	Bono71	Jan-20-05 10:23 PM	#202
You're correct, Jab.	truth2power	Jan-20-05 07:32 PM	#158
And lose the blue ones in the deal	Tyrone Slothrop	Jan-20-05 01:22 PM	#79
Remind me again, is Hillary from a red or blue state? n/t	Bono71	Jan-20-05 04:01 PM	#113
She's from a blue one	Tyrone Slothrop	Jan-20-05 05:11 PM	#134
Disagree...the Greens will never be more than a fringe party...	Bono71	Jan-20-05 05:22 PM	#138
How will this help?	dansolo	Jan-20-05 02:13 PM	#96
No...you take religion off the table and hammer them on	Bono71	Jan-20-05 04:00 PM	#112
Thanks bono!	justy329	Jan-20-05 04:41 PM	#125
De nada! n/t	Bono71	Jan-20-05 05:01 PM	#130
Wes Clark could do that and wouldn't have to pander.	Clark2008	Jan-20-05 06:35 PM	#150
I'd vote for hime. n/t	Bono71	Jan-20-05 08:05 PM	#166
Oh yah!! This strategery has worked SO GOD DAMNED WELL!!	leesa	Jan-20-05 10:46 PM	#205
My goodness...now I have heard it all...	Bono71	Jan-20-05 10:51 PM	#208
That's sick. Prior to making this comment she should have actually	rockedthevoteinMA	Jan-20-05 10:53 AM	#10
Which program was this?	jmowreader	Jan-20-05 02:12 PM	#95
This just confirms it.	progressiveBadger	Jan-20-05 10:53 AM	#11
The "People's president" would definitely be someone	Bono71	Jan-20-05 10:58 AM	#17
Not necessarily	progressiveBadger	Jan-20-05 11:29 AM	#37
Agree with that. n/t	Bono71	Jan-20-05 11:31 AM	#40
Our money is going to Robertson, Falwell, etc.	Charlie Brown	Jan-20-05 01:26 PM	#81
Never said I want that...and I doubt very seriously HC wants	Bono71	Jan-20-05 09:33 PM	#186
What if the people actually like faith-based initiatives?	Freddie Stubbs	Jan-20-05 11:58 AM	#56
I don't think a majority do	progressiveBadger	Jan-20-05 12:23 PM	#60
Unfortunately, a majority does support this idea	Freddie Stubbs	Jan-20-05 12:41 PM	#68
Touche...which is why H. Clinton made the statement. n/t	Bono71	Jan-20-05 12:47 PM	#72
That's because they haven't yet perceived the downside	KevinJ	Jan-20-05 09:06 PM	#178
Gallup is Owned By Fundamentalist Christians	AndyTiedye	Jan-20-05 09:57 PM	#196
Yet the Gallup poll's result is backed up by ABC's poll	Freddie Stubbs	Jan-21-05 10:00 AM	#249
Are You Sure It's Not the Same Poll?	AndyTiedye	Jan-21-05 11:22 AM	#258
It was not conducted by Gallup	Freddie Stubbs	Jan-21-05 12:16 PM	#264
If its unconstitutional, the desires of the majority are irrelevant.	patcox2	Jan-21-05 10:24 AM	#251
I will work to stop her if she runs for the White House!	PROGRESSIVE1	Jan-20-05 10:55 AM	#13
As will I	mitchum	Jan-20-05 07:53 PM	#163
She said use them......	liberalnurse	Jan-20-05 10:57 AM	#14
Faith Based Education- PRIVATELY Funded.	cryingshame	Jan-20-05 11:25 AM	#35
Correct....and I indeed	liberalnurse	Jan-20-05 11:39 AM	#44
another reason why...	Guns Aximbo	Jan-20-05 10:58 AM	#16
and government out of religion ... it's a two edged sword	sunnystarr	Jan-20-05 05:49 PM	#145
There is a reason they call her Slick Hillary	leftofcool	Jan-20-05 11:02 AM	#18
Thanks so much for posting this. After her cowardice in the Ohio objection	BrklynLiberal	Jan-20-05 11:08 AM	#19
Pandering traitor..	mutus_frutex	Jan-20-05 11:09 AM	#21
Hillary is Lieberman With Tits, Never Forget It n/t	krag	Jan-21-05 12:22 PM	#265
AND BOTH ARE GOOD DEMOCRATS	justy329	Jan-21-05 07:37 PM	#293
She's disgusting.....Pandering, plain and simple. On to bigger and better	AzDar	Jan-20-05 11:12 AM	#23
anyone here know what it would take to startup a new church?	Dr_eldritch	Jan-20-05 11:13 AM	#24
not much you can start one in your living room tonight	klyon	Jan-20-05 04:43 PM	#127
I don't know but that's what L Ron Hubbard did...he is supposed to	ikojo	Jan-21-05 08:49 AM	#246
She needs to effing stop,	jrthin	Jan-20-05 11:13 AM	#25
Fuck	Jacobin	Jan-20-05 11:14 AM	#27
I saw this coming a while ago	Malva Zebrina	Jan-20-05 11:17 AM	#29
At this point...I just want the neocons out...	TwoSparkles	Jan-20-05 11:18 AM	#30
This only gets the neo cons more "in"	Sterling	Jan-20-05 07:39 PM	#160
Just as with the privatization of SS...	punpirate	Jan-20-05 11:19 AM	#31
I work for a private non-profit that daily deals with religious orgs that	malachi	Jan-20-05 11:20 AM	#32
The Shrine of Solly could use a few bucks	Solly Mack	Jan-20-05 11:21 AM	#33
Someone please send Hilary the article about those kids	Liberty Belle	Jan-20-05 11:24 AM	#34
The Democratic Party	Massachusetts	Jan-20-05 11:33 AM	#41
Hillary at the Inauguration with Dan Quayle--pic	Malva Zebrina	Jan-20-05 11:39 AM	#45
Remember: she was a young Republican for Goldwater	PurityOfEssence	Jan-20-05 11:42 AM	#47
Sounds like Bush	UL_Approved	Jan-20-05 11:45 AM	#49
I'm Disappointed In Hillary For That.	arwalden	Jan-20-05 11:49 AM	#51
Exactly--and missionaries who seek to convert Muslims and Hindues	Malva Zebrina	Jan-20-05 12:32 PM	#62
So I 'm thinking maybe I should become a storefront preacher.	Sentinel Chicken	Jan-20-05 11:51 AM	#53
She just lost me!	liberal N proud	Jan-20-05 11:51 AM	#54
She's lost my support!!!	Rainscents	Jan-20-05 12:26 PM	#61
She lost my support a long time ago when she was interviewed	Biased Liberal Media	Jan-21-05 02:41 AM	#235
What???????	Megahurtz	Jan-20-05 12:03 PM	#57
Ed Rollins Buying the Black Pastors for Whitman	patcox2	Jan-20-05 12:14 PM	#59
Yes, I remember that Whitman ploy...Rollins was made the	Gloria	Jan-20-05 12:42 PM	#69
Yet another reason why democracy doesn't work	Charlie Brown	Jan-20-05 12:35 PM	#63
Or "slaves" to a majority of Americans who think the programs	Bono71	Jan-20-05 12:49 PM	#73
I see, so discrimination and state-financed churches	Charlie Brown	Jan-20-05 01:12 PM	#78
Never stated that they were ok. n/t	Bono71	Jan-20-05 03:42 PM	#108
If 50.1%	SOS	Jan-20-05 02:45 PM	#101
Agree, my reply was to the post above.	Bono71	Jan-20-05 03:43 PM	#109
Well, sure than we can buy off congregations too,	EC	Jan-20-05 12:40 PM	#66
She's clearly positioning herself for 2008	jsw_81	Jan-20-05 12:41 PM	#67
Agree with everyting in your post. n/t	Bono71	Jan-20-05 12:50 PM	#75
Once again, "values" on THEIR terms, not ours....she should read	Gloria	Jan-20-05 12:44 PM	#70
Yeah, I'm reeeeally surprised.	redqueen	Jan-20-05 12:51 PM	#76
Already looking for red state votes for '08 maybe? n/t	hughee99	Jan-20-05 12:58 PM	#77
delete	genieroze	Jan-20-05 01:29 PM	#82
Hey Hillary, go bake some freaking cookies like a good little	genieroze	Jan-20-05 01:29 PM	#83
YAWN! Combine that with Dingy Donna Brazille saying...	jswordy	Jan-20-05 01:36 PM	#85
So much for all that hooraw about her running in 2008	KamaAina	Jan-20-05 01:50 PM	#87
Thankyou Senator Clinton your my hero!	messiah	Jan-20-05 01:56 PM	#88
WTF? You are happy she wants to give the fundies the rope to lynch us with	Sterling	Jan-20-05 07:32 PM	#157
These spineless democrats believe that they can ignore their base	VegasWolf	Jan-20-05 02:03 PM	#93
Senator Clinton, you are cutting your own throat	lawladyprof	Jan-20-05 02:05 PM	#94
she must enjoy date rape n/t	blindpig	Jan-20-05 03:05 PM	#102
Deleted message	Name removed	Jan-20-05 03:09 PM	#103
Sorry, Hill, this isn't going to fly	0rganism	Jan-20-05 03:15 PM	#104
Ah lol... I love it when the DINOs expose themselves like this. n/t	Tinoire	Jan-20-05 03:17 PM	#105
Bush and the Moonies: Moon cleans-up on faith-baed money	IanDB1	Jan-20-05 04:02 PM	#116
Whoooa! What a thread!	Tinoire	Jan-20-05 04:10 PM	#118
Yep. It's scary, scary stuff.	IanDB1	Jan-20-05 04:20 PM	#119
Using RW Logic, if Hillary likes it it must be bad then...	RobertSeattle	Jan-20-05 04:01 PM	#114
The Traditional Democratic Base is the Faith Based Progressives	Coastie for Truth	Jan-20-05 04:06 PM	#117
Disagree, and here's why	Charlie Brown	Jan-20-05 04:54 PM	#128
We are of totally different generations, environments...	Coastie for Truth	Jan-20-05 05:33 PM	#141
Agree 100% n/t	Bono71	Jan-20-05 05:03 PM	#131
While I've lost interest in organized religion.. I agree with you 1000%!!!	progressivebydesign	Jan-20-05 08:28 PM	#169
I'm feeling a little sold out, right now.	superconnected	Jan-20-05 04:22 PM	#120
Did the people of New York know they were casting a vote...	UdoKier	Jan-20-05 04:26 PM	#121
Shes not too bad for a Republican though. n/t	Dr Fate	Jan-20-05 05:21 PM	#137
dumb move	idlisambar	Jan-20-05 05:51 PM	#146
Obviously her 2008 slogan will be "Whatever it Takes" n/t	rooboy	Jan-20-05 06:25 PM	#148
This is too easy for the repukes in 2008. Flip-flop repeat altogether	VegasWolf	Jan-20-05 07:26 PM	#155
The democratic party is toast. Stick a fork in it.n/t	VegasWolf	Jan-20-05 07:28 PM	#156
Faith based initiatives- Good Gov't sponsorship of FBI's - bad	hollowdweller	Jan-20-05 07:38 PM	#159
Did Hillary attend George Lakoff's seminar?	Larkspur	Jan-20-05 07:42 PM	#161
Feinstein and Clinton might as well cross over...they're trending	higher class	Jan-20-05 07:51 PM	#162
The Feinstein tribute to cundy rice was it for me	The_Casual_Observer	Jan-20-05 08:16 PM	#167
The Clinton's ARE the problem with the party.	98geoduck	Jan-20-05 08:26 PM	#168
I disagree. I think they are the pivot point for the swing back the other	hollowdweller	Jan-20-05 08:42 PM	#173
When a major majority of government and civic employees have	higher class	Jan-20-05 08:30 PM	#170
She is a genius	Mr.Green93	Jan-20-05 08:32 PM	#171
Hasn't this been their "method" for the last two decades?	98geoduck	Jan-20-05 08:38 PM	#172
God that is sad.	Sterling	Jan-20-05 09:22 PM	#184
Don't despair.	Mr.Green93	Jan-20-05 09:38 PM	#188
In case you haven't noticed, the national Democratic party is the	Bono71	Jan-20-05 09:40 PM	#191
"Whatever is needed" uh?	fshrink	Jan-21-05 12:02 AM	#221
I wouldn't agree she's a genius and I despise either side	msgadget	Jan-21-05 03:04 AM	#236
Where will they stop?	fshrink	Jan-20-05 09:00 PM	#177
Free to a good home - were not using it anymore	donheld	Jan-20-05 09:38 PM	#189
Funeral time?	AuntiBush	Jan-21-05 12:58 AM	#227
State-funded religion. Oppose the state's actions, lose funding.	w4rma	Jan-20-05 09:39 PM	#190
F.U. Hillary. Then CANCEL their tax breaks.	leesa	Jan-20-05 10:42 PM	#204
You're right.	sleepyhead	Jan-21-05 08:30 AM	#243
Groan.	David Zephyr	Jan-20-05 10:56 PM	#210
Bill Clinton was the actual starter of faith-based initiatives	donheld	Jan-20-05 11:22 PM	#217
Can't say that I didn't see this coming:	eauclaireliberal	Jan-20-05 11:22 PM	#218
Hillary just goes whatever way the wind blows----it's all about votes.	candy	Jan-20-05 11:36 PM	#219
Ummmm yeah	justy329	Jan-21-05 12:06 AM	#223
Exactly	Nebraska_Liberal	Jan-21-05 12:48 AM	#224
Yup. She's a sell out n/t	Biased Liberal Media	Jan-21-05 02:35 AM	#232
Yes! She started immediately after	AuntiBush	Jan-21-05 12:57 AM	#226
Pandering to the GOP. She'd better run as a republican cause	Pallas180	Jan-21-05 01:40 AM	#228
She resembles the ole saying " Democrats/ Republicans same SHIT different	98geoduck	Jan-21-05 01:45 AM	#229
Surprise, Surprise, Surprise	Melynn	Jan-21-05 02:36 AM	#233
"He is a weak ruler who needs religion to uphold his government"	jasop	Jan-21-05 02:39 AM	#234
Let's be clear about this...	regnaD kciN	Jan-21-05 07:20 AM	#237
Thank you for your post	AngryOldDem	Jan-21-05 03:16 PM	#273
et tu, Hilary? then fall DLC. n/t	NuttyFluffers	Jan-21-05 07:53 AM	#238
We cannot compromise on this issue.	Zynx	Jan-21-05 08:04 AM	#240
Did you see	raysr	Jan-21-05 09:05 AM	#247
Hillary's positioning is both sincere and strategic, sheeple!	zara	Jan-21-05 09:22 AM	#248
HOW 'BOUT WE TAX THE CHURCHES TO HELP PAY FOR SOCIAL PROGRAMS, INSTEAD?	grahamhgreen	Jan-21-05 10:24 AM	#250
LOL...good luck getting that one passed. n/t	Bono71	Jan-21-05 10:59 AM	#256
We Cannot Out-Republican the Republicans	GiovanniC	Jan-21-05 10:40 AM	#252
We don't have to do any of that to win...we just need a candidate	Bono71	Jan-21-05 11:00 AM	#257
Being comfortable with religion	truth2power	Jan-21-05 12:28 PM	#266
It worked for Kennedy in 1960	Freddie Stubbs	Jan-21-05 02:12 PM	#269
We Are Not Dealing With Liberal Republicans, For Fuck's Sake	GiovanniC	Jan-21-05 02:48 PM	#270
Nixon wasn't a liberal Republican either	Freddie Stubbs	Jan-21-05 03:02 PM	#271
Kennedy Did Not Throw Constitutional American Values Under the Bus	GiovanniC	Jan-21-05 03:15 PM	#272
Remind me where HC is	Bono71	Jan-21-05 03:22 PM	#275
And I Disagree With that Republican Stance	GiovanniC	Jan-21-05 03:47 PM	#277
First...	Bono71	Jan-21-05 04:20 PM	#280
First...	GiovanniC	Jan-21-05 04:44 PM	#281
I agree with that (all of it, minus	Bono71	Jan-21-05 04:48 PM	#282
I Simply Don't See How You Can Look Around This Country	GiovanniC	Jan-21-05 04:59 PM	#283
I could list more than several cases the ACLU has won	Bono71	Jan-21-05 05:12 PM	#285
Not Following Your Logic	GiovanniC	Jan-21-05 07:32 PM	#292
Thats all the USA needs:	bvar22	Jan-21-05 07:19 PM	#290
Just because it was a Republican who came up with the idea	Freddie Stubbs	Jan-21-05 04:02 PM	#278
This Idea Is a Bad Idea That Sounds Like a Good Idea At First	GiovanniC	Jan-21-05 04:15 PM	#279
they are stealing our money!!	Pam-Moby	Jan-21-05 05:09 PM	#284
BOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!	tiredofthisstuff	Jan-21-05 06:30 PM	#287
i got 4000 bucks, can you make it in to 100,000	sweetheart	Jan-21-05 07:42 PM	#294
Hil the Whore-----------and I didn't read any of your responses	DemocracyInaction	Jan-21-05 07:42 PM	#295
If she ever had my vote...	Lizzie Borden	Jan-21-05 09:17 PM	#297
Fairmont Copley Plaza Hotel - nice digs for a faith-based gala	cosmicdot	Jan-22-05 12:45 AM	#298

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