Jack_DeLeon
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Wed Jan-12-05 04:01 AM
Response to Reply #44 |
| 49. Governments dont give rights... |
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they restrict them.
People have the right to do whatever they want. Its thier life, thier body, thier choice to use it as they see fit.
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| -Soccer: What does this warrior's salute really mean? |
seriousstan |
Jan-12-05 01:50 AM |
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Prosecute him. |
rooboy |
Jan-12-05 01:52 AM |
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Mark Bosnich |
SweetLeftFoot |
Jan-12-05 04:26 AM |
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Here is a picture |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-12-05 01:59 AM |
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Interesting link... |
Telly Savalas |
Jan-12-05 07:51 AM |
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So, why had he tattoed "dux" on his arm? |
ze_dscherman |
Jan-12-05 02:06 AM |
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Di Canio's biography contains this |
tkmorris |
Jan-12-05 02:10 AM |
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Prosecute him. Bad enough that we have someone like Berlusconi |
neweurope |
Jan-12-05 02:35 AM |
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He should be able to salute any damn way he wants, fascist or not. |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 02:38 AM |
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Ever been to a soccer match where there were ethnic tensions? |
rooboy |
Jan-12-05 02:48 AM |
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No, I don't accept your comparison |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 03:12 AM |
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Look at this picture. |
rooboy |
Jan-12-05 03:33 AM |
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Okay, so you go out of the way not to blame the real perpetrators. |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 03:36 AM |
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I agree with you... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Jan-12-05 03:44 AM |
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The American court system doesn't agree with you. |
rooboy |
Jan-12-05 03:48 AM |
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And they wouldn't be justified in doing so. |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 04:21 AM |
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Well, thanks for keeping the discussion clean |
AZCat |
Jan-12-05 04:24 AM |
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No I havent... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Jan-12-05 03:17 AM |
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No he should not. We have laws against this in Europe. |
neweurope |
Jan-12-05 03:02 AM |
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I'm sorry but that is wrong. |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 03:07 AM |
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We are limited in our speech here |
AZCat |
Jan-12-05 03:17 AM |
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Sure you can... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Jan-12-05 03:18 AM |
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It is most certainly illegal |
AZCat |
Jan-12-05 03:33 AM |
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And again that is wrong. |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 03:18 AM |
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Yes we will have to agree to disagree. You cannot say something |
neweurope |
Jan-12-05 03:22 AM |
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sounds like a concept from the book 1984... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Jan-12-05 03:36 AM |
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Or 1798... |
AZCat |
Jan-12-05 03:40 AM |
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This is not freedom of expression |
dutchdoctor |
Jan-12-05 03:30 AM |
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Freedom of expression does not end anywhere. |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 03:32 AM |
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I hate to break out the old chestnut |
tkmorris |
Jan-12-05 03:44 AM |
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To that I say it is the responsibility of those who panic... |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 03:51 AM |
#43 |
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With all due respect |
tkmorris |
Jan-12-05 04:01 AM |
#48 |
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Even if I make that concession, expressing oneself politically |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 04:04 AM |
#52 |
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Threatening to overthrow the government (political speech)... |
AZCat |
Jan-12-05 04:08 AM |
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To that I would say |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 04:10 AM |
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The Supreme Court has sort of danced around this... |
AZCat |
Jan-12-05 04:15 AM |
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You have just proven that Hitler was as innocent as a newborn baby. |
neweurope |
Jan-12-05 04:11 AM |
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Yeah, I'm hitler's bitch. |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 04:16 AM |
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"It's the action, not the idea that should be criminal". Wrong. |
neweurope |
Jan-12-05 04:19 AM |
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Thought Crime eh? A persons thoughts and ideas are his own. |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 04:23 AM |
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We were not talking of thought but of airing these thoughts - speech. |
neweurope |
Jan-12-05 04:27 AM |
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I agree, good discussion, nice speaking with you. |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 04:44 AM |
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You're speaking from a very ethno-centric, American |
leftynyc |
Jan-12-05 07:53 AM |
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Have you read all my posts in this thread? |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 08:35 AM |
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Also, why not just go straight to the source, and prosecute him for |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 03:34 AM |
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American freedom of expression eh? |
rooboy |
Jan-12-05 03:34 AM |
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So you are claiming... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Jan-12-05 03:39 AM |
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My point is that you DO NOT have freedom of expression... |
rooboy |
Jan-12-05 03:44 AM |
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Can you tell me where I said that he has the right? |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 03:47 AM |
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You said this... |
rooboy |
Jan-12-05 03:50 AM |
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And I addressed that in post 29. |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 03:54 AM |
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Bullshit... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Jan-12-05 03:47 AM |
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May I ask what by what authority you have that right? |
tkmorris |
Jan-12-05 03:51 AM |
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What rights people have.... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Jan-12-05 03:51 AM |
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Ah, but you didn't answer the question |
tkmorris |
Jan-12-05 03:53 AM |
#44 |
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Governments dont give rights... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Jan-12-05 04:01 AM |
#49 |
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That is besides the point. |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 04:02 AM |
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Well done, well done |
tkmorris |
Jan-12-05 04:18 AM |
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You can't reason |
democracyindanger |
Jan-12-05 04:22 AM |
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Thank you for dropping in to personally attack me. |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 04:24 AM |
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Not personally attacking you |
democracyindanger |
Jan-12-05 04:29 AM |
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I'm sorry but.. |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 04:42 AM |
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I still think |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 04:35 AM |
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I am sure they would as well |
tkmorris |
Jan-12-05 03:48 AM |
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I think you're taking it a bit too lightly... |
AZCat |
Jan-12-05 03:54 AM |
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I was speaking to his notion......... |
tkmorris |
Jan-12-05 04:03 AM |
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What's your point? |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 03:40 AM |
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It's very simply against the law there |
leftynyc |
Jan-12-05 07:50 AM |
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I agree... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Jan-12-05 03:15 AM |
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"Its called the "roman salute" and was around long before Nazi's used it." |
neweurope |
Jan-12-05 03:26 AM |
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It is censorship. Just because you agree with it doesn't change the action |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 03:30 AM |
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Doesn't really matter to me if you call it censorship. I agree with |
neweurope |
Jan-12-05 03:33 AM |
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There is nothing wrong with that... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Jan-12-05 03:42 AM |
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Government laws that censor arent censorship? |
Jack_DeLeon |
Jan-12-05 03:40 AM |
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For us it is no censorship. Every political party - we have a lot of them |
neweurope |
Jan-12-05 03:58 AM |
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Thanks you sensei, but I will stick by my ideals. |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 04:05 AM |
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By all means :) You will have time contemplating them in the Gulag. |
neweurope |
Jan-12-05 04:09 AM |
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I hope that was a friendly jest. |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 04:12 AM |
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I was speaking of American Gulags... and yes, it was a friendly |
neweurope |
Jan-12-05 04:17 AM |
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Actually its not censorship! |
RuleofLaw |
Jan-12-05 08:54 AM |
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So you have laws that stop people from saying certain things... |
BBradley |
Jan-12-05 08:59 AM |
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They can say it, but may face a penalty. |
RuleofLaw |
Jan-12-05 09:11 AM |
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How? |
SweetLeftFoot |
Jan-12-05 04:30 AM |
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He has written about his fascination with Mussolini and he has |
neweurope |
Jan-12-05 04:37 AM |
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Doesn't sound to me |
SweetLeftFoot |
Jan-12-05 06:25 AM |
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Di Canio used to play for the team I support |
Thankfully_in_Britain |
Jan-12-05 06:31 AM |
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It wouldn't surprise me, but has anyone seen a video of the incident? |
HuckleB |
Jan-12-05 08:08 AM |
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Look at the picture (nr. 2) and tell me that's waving... |
neweurope |
Jan-12-05 08:32 AM |
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So you haven't seen a video? |
HuckleB |
Jan-12-05 08:38 AM |
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They probably do - I haven't seen it because I neither have |
neweurope |
Jan-12-05 09:19 AM |
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In Iraq Soccer is Peace - But the American's don't get it? |
ausiedownunderground |
Jan-12-05 08:56 AM |
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Lazio has long had a history of racism |
Blue_Tires |
Jan-12-05 10:34 AM |
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