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Fri Jan-07-05 10:50 PM
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| 28. I remember a picture I saw |
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in one of the many Kennedy biography books I've read through the years, I think it was Doris Kearns Goodwin's "The Fitzgeralds and the Kennedys." It was a picture of an adult Caroline Kennedy and Maria Shriver (Eunice Kennedy Shriver's daughter) swimming in the ocean with Rosemary sometime in the 80's. They looked like they were all having a good time and like they all enjoyed being together. It was a nice picture.
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| -Retarded Kennedy sister dies at 86 |
kskiska |
Jan-07-05 10:07 PM |
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What kind of title is that? nf |
GRLMGC |
Jan-07-05 10:10 PM |
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we just had a conversation about that |
shamanstar |
Jan-07-05 10:16 PM |
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Not "they"... it was the father, not Rose who did that to her. He |
barb162 |
Jan-07-05 10:24 PM |
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That's true, he had it done |
liberalhistorian |
Jan-07-05 10:36 PM |
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isnt shriver very involved in the special olympics? |
shamanstar |
Jan-07-05 10:55 PM |
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Yes, she actually founded the |
liberalhistorian |
Jan-07-05 11:06 PM |
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It's worse than you think, too.. |
girl gone mad |
Jan-08-05 12:01 AM |
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Still, as other posters here have said, |
liberalhistorian |
Jan-08-05 11:55 AM |
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it's such a magnificent procedure I for one feel that half |
meppie-meppie not |
Jan-08-05 01:02 PM |
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I understand that she was feeling her oats, as it were |
MADem |
Jan-08-05 12:02 AM |
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not to defend the practice |
proud2Blib |
Jan-08-05 12:55 AM |
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I do not think it was ever as popular as |
DulceDecorum |
Jan-08-05 10:29 AM |
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you are correct, surgery for the retarded was one of many procedures |
bleedingheart |
Jan-08-05 11:50 AM |
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Not just the retarded |
MountainLaurel |
Jan-08-05 07:58 PM |
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I saw a documentary on lobotomies. It was promoted it as a miracle cure. |
chimpy the poopthrower |
Jan-08-05 08:23 PM |
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One that is very 1950's |
lebkuchen |
Jan-08-05 03:51 AM |
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sick and inhumane, that's what |
Skittles |
Jan-08-05 12:47 PM |
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tragic |
bpilgrim |
Jan-07-05 10:11 PM |
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Ignorance is what we learn from... |
patdem |
Jan-07-05 10:16 PM |
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Their guilt = Special Olympics. Tragic. n/t |
CottonBear |
Jan-07-05 10:26 PM |
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Her Life, Silenced to maintain IMAGE. Common |
bpilgrim |
Jan-07-05 10:35 PM |
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OMG, what a horror. |
Pirate Smile |
Jan-07-05 10:46 PM |
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beyond despicable what they did to people |
barb162 |
Jan-07-05 11:01 PM |
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Tragic |
burrowowl |
Jan-08-05 12:00 AM |
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I don't know which version is more accurate, |
delete_bush |
Jan-08-05 01:45 AM |
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they did it so it wouldn't EMBARRASS the ELITES |
bpilgrim |
Jan-07-05 10:26 PM |
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Supposedly the doctors sold Joe Kennedy on the lobotomy |
dflprincess |
Jan-07-05 10:30 PM |
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why do you suppose she was sent all the way to the middle of WI |
barb162 |
Jan-07-05 10:36 PM |
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Actually, the family did visit |
liberalhistorian |
Jan-07-05 10:43 PM |
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yeah, but I am saying why send her several hundred miles away |
barb162 |
Jan-07-05 10:54 PM |
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St. Coletta was considered THE "state of the art" Catholic institution... |
HuckleB |
Jan-07-05 11:56 PM |
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i am pretty sure everyone who is lobotomized gives up reading and writing |
Buck_Fush |
Jan-08-05 04:20 AM |
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she never was aware her brother was president |
Skittles |
Jan-08-05 12:50 PM |
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father complained about... her embarrassing new interest in boys |
bpilgrim |
Jan-07-05 10:43 PM |
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"embarrassing new interest in boy" The philanderer is worried |
barb162 |
Jan-07-05 10:59 PM |
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Maybe Joe was incestuous and jealous too |
Swamp Rat |
Jan-07-05 11:24 PM |
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An interesting family |
dannynyc |
Jan-08-05 11:29 AM |
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The Bushes, on the other hand, |
kskiska |
Jan-08-05 12:01 PM |
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Great Deal of Arrogance in That Era |
Crisco |
Jan-08-05 01:19 PM |
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I tend to believe that, too, |
liberalhistorian |
Jan-07-05 10:40 PM |
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Yes, he really was gambling that the operation would IMPROVE her condition |
spooked |
Jan-08-05 05:53 AM |
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The difference... |
HuckleB |
Jan-07-05 11:41 PM |
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sure |
bpilgrim |
Jan-07-05 11:48 PM |
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Yes, she's lucky GWB's in the same boat. GHWB would do it in a flash. |
HuckleB |
Jan-07-05 11:54 PM |
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don't give'm no ideas |
bpilgrim |
Jan-07-05 11:54 PM |
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this country needs GWB to have one! ;-) nt |
meppie-meppie not |
Jan-08-05 01:04 PM |
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too true!! n/t |
proud2Blib |
Jan-08-05 01:07 AM |
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Didn't Babs and Bush1 go golfing the day after their daughter died? |
antigone382 |
Jan-08-05 08:21 PM |
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May she rest in peace. |
Ilsa |
Jan-07-05 10:12 PM |
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I never knew about the lobotomy. |
baba |
Jan-07-05 10:16 PM |
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Whoah! I was about to alert on the title b/c I thought |
Heddi |
Jan-07-05 10:17 PM |
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you'll notice the family statement uses another form of the word. It |
barb162 |
Jan-07-05 10:33 PM |
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oh I noticed that, and I know the "use" of the word was more acceptable |
Heddi |
Jan-07-05 10:39 PM |
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AP wrote the article. The headline is in a few google links too |
sonicx |
Jan-07-05 10:43 PM |
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Doesn't matter if it was AP or the PI |
Heddi |
Jan-07-05 10:49 PM |
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yeah and this woman who had an enormous injustice done to her is |
barb162 |
Jan-07-05 11:23 PM |
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A bit off topic, but on the point you made |
MADem |
Jan-08-05 12:19 AM |
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I thought the same thing.... |
Catchawave |
Jan-07-05 10:42 PM |
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You will be shocked by this |
proud2Blib |
Jan-08-05 01:06 AM |
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Since when does AP use 'Retarded'? |
sonicx |
Jan-07-05 10:22 PM |
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It's AP alright. Odd... |
BrotherBuzz |
Jan-07-05 10:51 PM |
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SInce forever. AP Style Book doesn't change much with the times. |
HuckleB |
Jan-07-05 11:51 PM |
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Rest in Peace Rosemary. n/t |
OurVotesCount-Ohio |
Jan-07-05 10:25 PM |
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Rest in peace indeed. |
SCRUBDASHRUB |
Jan-07-05 10:32 PM |
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I remember a picture I saw |
liberalhistorian |
Jan-07-05 10:50 PM |
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That's so sad. Rest in peace Rosemary |
rockedthevoteinMA |
Jan-07-05 10:43 PM |
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To me "retarded" is not a bad or hurtful word any more than to say |
barb162 |
Jan-07-05 11:43 PM |
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"Retarded" is a medical term |
Nevernose |
Jan-07-05 10:58 PM |
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Yeah I know that. |
rockedthevoteinMA |
Jan-07-05 11:27 PM |
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Exactly. |
HuckleB |
Jan-07-05 11:44 PM |
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Very classy of that wesite to use the word "retarded". |
cat_girl25 |
Jan-07-05 11:31 PM |
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Most states have legislation |
DulceDecorum |
Jan-08-05 10:19 AM |
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This is such a sad and tragic story. I weep for all of the Kennedys. |
PartyPooper |
Jan-07-05 11:34 PM |
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Wow. The AP is despicable. They used her death to take hits at the Kennedy |
w4rma |
Jan-08-05 12:01 AM |
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Lots of information here at psychosurgery.org |
Mizmoon |
Jan-08-05 12:29 AM |
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Lobotimies used to be popular |
Erika |
Jan-08-05 12:51 AM |
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My deepest grief |
chookie |
Jan-08-05 01:15 AM |
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nicely said and TY...nt |
meppie-meppie not |
Jan-08-05 01:11 PM |
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Ted Kennedy brought Rosemary to a Kerry rally in Wisconsin |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jan-08-05 09:29 PM |
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Please excuse me -- this is so sad for me |
chookie |
Jan-08-05 01:32 AM |
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Sad news |
njdemocrat106 |
Jan-08-05 01:37 AM |
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May Maria |
Erika |
Jan-08-05 01:41 AM |
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R-I-P |
Piperay |
Jan-08-05 04:00 AM |
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omg! I was just talking about her to our kids yesterday, |
alphafemale |
Jan-08-05 04:59 AM |
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Pictures of Rosemary |
spooked |
Jan-08-05 06:01 AM |
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Rest in peace Rosie, now you can finally rest in peace. |
merh |
Jan-08-05 10:46 AM |
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I'm concerned that at some point, the term "developmentally disabled" |
Ilsa |
Jan-08-05 11:09 AM |
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Yes, "retarded" was a replacement for "cretin" or "idiot" |
Logansquare |
Jan-08-05 12:55 PM |
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and here I thought "cretin" & "idiot" were reserved for shrub |
meppie-meppie not |
Jan-08-05 01:07 PM |
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May she rest in peace. |
bleedingheart |
Jan-08-05 12:01 PM |
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RIP Rosemary Kennedy |
dumtacetclamat |
Jan-08-05 08:04 PM |
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I'm sorry I still find the title hostile and offensive |
sleipnir |
Jan-08-05 08:42 PM |
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My condolences to Senator Kennedy and the entire Kennedy family. |
TankLV |
Jan-08-05 08:48 PM |
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Do we still use the term 'retarded' |
TheEconomist |
Jan-08-05 08:51 PM |
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