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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #77
91. Non-Sense

Predators do not control the size of the population of prey; we now know that the size of the population of prey controls the size of the population of predators!


Predators actually "moderate" competition among prey species in that they can increase or reduce diversity in a prey population. Further, "keystone predators" (predators that have a disporportionate impact on a ecosystem) limit the densities of the most competitive species in a community which allow more species to exist.

Studies indicate that population cycles are caused by both predation and available food source for the prey species. This also ignores other factors such as disease, natural disasters, humans, etc.

Matter-of-factly stating prey species "controls" the population of the predator is crude and careless.

While I think your scientific interpretation is wrong, I do agree that non-native species, feral cats, etc...should be removed from the ecosystem (and i love cats)...but for the sake of our natural world all feral and/or domestic animals should be removed from the ecosystem.


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  -Wal-Mart workers charged in cat shooting (Evansville, Indiana) RamboLiberal  Dec-30-04 07:21 AM   #0 
  - dupe?  ixion   Dec-30-04 07:23 AM   #1 
  - One more reason why to not shop at Wal-mart  R Hickey   Dec-30-04 07:28 AM   #2 
  - Haven't set foot in one for years  wicket   Dec-30-04 07:30 AM   #3 
  - The problem is............  ClintonTyree   Dec-30-04 07:36 AM   #5 
  - How hard would it have been to call  salin   Dec-30-04 07:33 AM   #4 
  - Yeah why shoot it?  demnan   Dec-30-04 07:41 AM   #6 
  - Our local shelter won't chase cats  IanDB1   Dec-30-04 07:43 AM   #7 
  - several years ago there was no law  salin   Dec-30-04 07:45 AM   #8 
  - What can we do with Box Turtles?  bahrbearian   Dec-30-04 08:35 AM   #14 
  - Box Turtles? They're sex toys for GOP congressmen.  R Hickey   Dec-30-04 09:36 AM   #24 
  - I catch them  Hillary08   Dec-30-04 10:29 PM   #88 
  - Might have tried feeding the cat...  Mend   Dec-30-04 07:48 AM   #9 
  - not all Walmart people just the current leadership.  Prodemsouth   Dec-30-04 09:48 AM   #26 
  - varmints like our native bird population, I suppose  amazona   Dec-30-04 10:05 AM   #29 
  - this topic is apparently open to discussion  Mend   Dec-30-04 10:25 AM   #30 
  - Rather  flvegan   Dec-30-04 11:17 AM   #32 
  - 'Scuse me, but I beg to differ. I live in an area that has many  1monster   Dec-30-04 11:20 AM   #33 
  - Your post basically confirms what the previous poster stated  NickB79   Dec-30-04 07:59 PM   #84 
     - Bull! This subdivision was started before I was born and that was nearly  1monster   Dec-31-04 11:16 AM   #89 
  - You are wrong.  potone   Dec-30-04 03:30 PM   #65 
  - Amazona, I agree with you 100%  Redstone   Dec-30-04 04:13 PM   #77 
     - Different strokes for different folks.  Lizzie Borden   Dec-30-04 08:39 PM   #86 
     - Non-Sense  kwolf68   Dec-31-04 12:57 PM   #91 
  - i wish my cat would be a little less familiar at 5 a.m.  maxsolomon   Dec-30-04 11:25 AM   #34 
  - I heard that exact same story  InvisibleBallots   Dec-30-04 01:13 PM   #47 
     - there it is  SemperEadem   Dec-30-04 01:58 PM   #54 
        - "read some history" - thanks for the suggestion  InvisibleBallots   Dec-30-04 01:59 PM   #55 
           - certainly  SemperEadem   Dec-30-04 02:03 PM   #56 
              - so this book claims what exactly?  InvisibleBallots   Dec-30-04 02:07 PM   #57 
                 - Pope Gregory IX started it...  Mend   Dec-30-04 09:40 PM   #87 
  - exactly, what the hell was wrong with these morons to shoot the  barb162   Dec-30-04 03:46 PM   #71 
  - The Last Time Evansville Achieved National Notoriety  Sporadicus   Dec-30-04 07:52 AM   #10 
  - Evansville: home of the Klu Klux Klan eom  Mend   Dec-30-04 08:14 AM   #11 
  - That Would Describe a Wide Swath of the Hoosier State n/t  Sporadicus   Dec-30-04 08:18 AM   #12 
  - My girlfriend, born, lived in Indiana, HATED Indiana; fundie heaven  barb162   Dec-30-04 03:45 PM   #70 
  - That would be Pulaski Tennessee I believe n/t  Eagle_Eye   Dec-30-04 09:33 AM   #23 
     - KKKI was Pulaski  Mend   Dec-30-04 09:53 AM   #27 
        - thank you for letting me know  shanti   Dec-30-04 12:34 PM   #41 
        - I didn't know it had moved. But it is not like I make an effort to  Eagle_Eye   Dec-30-04 07:33 PM   #82 
  - or when a quiet, single protester to a cheney event  salin   Dec-30-04 08:20 AM   #13 
  - Another One I Forgot:  Sporadicus   Dec-30-04 08:39 AM   #15 
     - hehe interesting item  salin   Dec-30-04 08:44 AM   #16 
        - I-69 is Complete in Michigan & as Far South as Indy  Sporadicus   Dec-30-04 08:50 AM   #17 
           - I still doubt that it will ever be completed.  salin   Dec-30-04 08:54 AM   #18 
              - Even if I-69 Never Gets Constructed  Sporadicus   Dec-30-04 09:01 AM   #19 
                 - and where would the billions upon billions come for this?  salin   Dec-30-04 09:13 AM   #20 
                    - I Agree That Financing This Endeavor Looks Insurmountable  Sporadicus   Dec-30-04 09:24 AM   #22 
                       - agreed per the trucking further deregulation  salin   Dec-30-04 09:37 AM   #25 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-30-04 07:45 PM   #83 
  - Land of the stupid....  Javaman   Dec-30-04 09:19 AM   #21 
  - Land of the stupid is right.  Bleachers7   Dec-30-04 10:01 AM   #28 
  - Reminds me of what my store manager did...  Solon   Dec-30-04 10:51 AM   #31 
  - shooting feral animals is a rural tradition  maxsolomon   Dec-30-04 11:30 AM   #35 
  - There are a lot of "traditions" that should be stamped out  Coventina   Dec-30-04 11:44 AM   #36 
     - i agree but you're tilting at windmills  maxsolomon   Dec-30-04 01:14 PM   #49 
  - I assume everyone who is complaining is a vegetarian?  InvisibleBallots   Dec-30-04 11:45 AM   #37 
  - WTF does THAT have to do with anything?  Coventina   Dec-30-04 11:50 AM   #38 
  - if they shot a rat, would anyone be complaining?  InvisibleBallots   Dec-30-04 12:41 PM   #42 
     - I would hope people would complain about shooting rats  Coventina   Dec-30-04 12:49 PM   #43 
        - shooting sounds like a quick and *relatively* painless way to kill  InvisibleBallots   Dec-30-04 12:53 PM   #44 
           - I hardly know where to begin  Coventina   Dec-30-04 01:02 PM   #45 
           - I said stopping the shooting of stray cats is not a priority  InvisibleBallots   Dec-30-04 01:08 PM   #46 
              - I never disagreed with you on factory farming  Coventina   Dec-30-04 01:13 PM   #48 
              - fine, let's arrest the factory farmers  InvisibleBallots   Dec-30-04 01:17 PM   #51 
                 - I think we SHOULD arrest the factory farmers  Coventina   Dec-30-04 02:30 PM   #58 
                    - Shooting animals is fine with me  InvisibleBallots   Dec-30-04 02:58 PM   #59 
                       - So, we've finally established that you are "pro-cruelty"  Coventina   Dec-30-04 03:04 PM   #60 
                          - Yes, like the vast majority of Democrats - and cats, for that matter  InvisibleBallots   Dec-30-04 03:15 PM   #62 
                             - Barbarism begins at home  Coventina   Dec-30-04 03:22 PM   #63 
                                - cats are murderers and torturers  InvisibleBallots   Dec-30-04 03:25 PM   #64 
                                   - Wow. I feel sorry for you.  Coventina   Dec-30-04 03:32 PM   #67 
                                   - your pity is duly noted  InvisibleBallots   Dec-30-04 03:43 PM   #69 
                                      - No, it does NOT describe me, nor does it pertain to the point  Coventina   Dec-30-04 03:48 PM   #72 
                                         - You are acting as an apologist for cruelty  InvisibleBallots   Dec-30-04 03:52 PM   #73 
                                         - Where have I acted as an apologist for cruelty?  Coventina   Dec-30-04 04:04 PM   #75 
                                         - you just did!  InvisibleBallots   Dec-30-04 04:37 PM   #79 
                                         - So the Walmart employees ate the cat?  Coventina   Dec-30-04 04:45 PM   #81 
                                   - what a fucking idiotic comment.  CatWoman   Dec-30-04 03:54 PM   #74 
                                      - I love your post so much.....  Coventina   Dec-30-04 04:06 PM   #76 
                                      - eh, same to you  InvisibleBallots   Dec-30-04 04:20 PM   #78 
              - I haven't seen anyone refer to you as a freeper.  Puglover   Dec-30-04 01:17 PM   #50 
                 - what? who said anything about the Tsunami?  InvisibleBallots   Dec-30-04 01:26 PM   #52 
                    - Whoops  Puglover   Dec-30-04 01:29 PM   #53 
           - Cruelty is part and parcel of intent  LanternWaste   Dec-30-04 03:40 PM   #68 
  - Well,that's relevant  Forkboy   Dec-30-04 11:57 AM   #39 
  - Oh Gawd...  Puglover   Dec-30-04 12:29 PM   #40 
  - Wow, this 80 pack of toothbrushes is so cheap....  lies and propaganda   Dec-30-04 03:07 PM   #61 
  - Don't Give A Dam If It Costs More Anymore, Go To Other  Jon8503   Dec-30-04 03:31 PM   #66 
  - Ah - the workers get charged with a federal crime  InvisibleBallots   Dec-30-04 04:39 PM   #80 
  - FELONY animal cruelty, not FEDERAL  jmowreader   Dec-30-04 08:19 PM   #85 
  - Someone call Bill Frist!  Comicstripper   Dec-31-04 11:41 AM   #90 
  - We won't even go in the door there  Omaha Steve   Dec-31-04 02:01 PM   #92 
 

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