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Mon Dec-27-04 12:01 AM
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| 62. nice of the cops to so publicly pre-judge the medical report..... |
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guess they must get this all out to the reTHUGlican news media, in order to make their fundie case before the 'cause of death' report is even on their desks.....have they even received the medical reports yet from the examinations of the woman's injuries?
maybe the fetus was already massive deformed from a congenital defect causing the miscarriage....or exposure to toxins, from the mother, or the environment....who knows...just LEAP to a conclusion....like the good old days of fundie lynching....OMG, they got ANOTHER fetus case....so exciting for them...a non-human MURDER case.....
I'm all for police taking an objective view of every situation rather than LEAPING to fundie conclusions and blabbering their case to the reTHUGlican news media to make their BIG splash...they probably got on the phone TONIGHT to bush* cohorts Jerry Farwell and Billy Graham....
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| -Man charged with murder after pregnant woman's fetus dies |
theorist |
Dec-26-04 08:23 PM |
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Preemies can be born at 18 weeks, what's that, 4 and a half months? |
tjdee |
Dec-26-04 08:24 PM |
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I think the earliest anyone's been born and survived was in |
Egalitariat |
Dec-26-04 08:27 PM |
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If she had had an abortion at this point, would it not be murder? |
tjdee |
Dec-26-04 08:34 PM |
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Exactly... |
aikido15 |
Dec-26-04 08:40 PM |
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Scott Peterson did not get the shaft. Lacy got the shaft**** |
Egalitariat |
Dec-26-04 08:42 PM |
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"Scott Peterson got the shaft"? |
PartyPooper |
Dec-26-04 08:44 PM |
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Are you high? |
hollywood926 |
Dec-26-04 08:53 PM |
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You make a good point |
democraticrevolution |
Dec-26-04 09:07 PM |
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Not high, read post no. 11 |
aikido15 |
Dec-26-04 09:09 PM |
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Kick! |
Megahurtz |
Dec-27-04 05:44 PM |
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If a woman is pregnant and intends to have her child we have to |
demigoddess |
Dec-26-04 09:33 PM |
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You've constructed a fine house of cards |
Sandpiper |
Dec-26-04 11:39 PM |
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Isn't this why we have aggravated assault laws? |
bezdomny |
Dec-26-04 11:59 PM |
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It should not be under any type of murder statute... |
LiberalFighter |
Dec-27-04 04:22 PM |
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Law Student's view of the Peterson case |
Sandpiper |
Dec-26-04 09:10 PM |
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I think your right look for it to be over turned n/t |
caligirl |
Dec-26-04 09:38 PM |
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Thank heaven you were not on the jury... |
Angelique |
Dec-26-04 10:56 PM |
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Circumstantial evidence isn't the same as proof. |
Gardeaux08 |
Dec-26-04 11:15 PM |
#49 |
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Narrow view indeed |
Sandpiper |
Dec-26-04 11:21 PM |
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Not TOO taken with yourself, are you? |
Eloriel |
Dec-27-04 08:41 AM |
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Cable News decided the case. |
Old and In the Way |
Dec-26-04 11:59 PM |
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Public opinion convicted Scott Peterson. Guilty or innocent |
0007 |
Dec-27-04 08:27 AM |
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So, using this reasoning |
traco |
Dec-28-04 12:51 AM |
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It's more than that |
Sandpiper |
Dec-28-04 05:26 AM |
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Scott Peterson most certainly |
liberalhistorian |
Dec-26-04 10:47 PM |
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Dec-27-04 12:42 AM |
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And I've hit alert on this as well. |
Bouncy Ball |
Dec-27-04 12:44 AM |
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I did as soon as I saw it. |
theorist |
Dec-27-04 12:47 AM |
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If you do an advanced search on this hideous thing |
Bouncy Ball |
Dec-27-04 12:49 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Dec-27-04 01:10 AM |
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At least read the rules before you start inciting "eRiots". |
theorist |
Dec-27-04 12:45 AM |
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Simple answer... |
Kimber Scott |
Dec-26-04 08:41 PM |
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The reasoning sounds kinda convoluted for me. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-26-04 08:48 PM |
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YES IT WOULD |
hollywood926 |
Dec-26-04 08:57 PM |
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Why not? |
Kimber Scott |
Dec-26-04 08:59 PM |
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I'm not saying it's not a crime, or that it's not a heinous act. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-26-04 09:01 PM |
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Maybe, to you it's not that important. Maybe, to the pregnant woman |
Kimber Scott |
Dec-26-04 09:06 PM |
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Nice mix of straw men and PAs. Please DO keep posting like that. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-26-04 09:10 PM |
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How's that? |
Kimber Scott |
Dec-26-04 09:16 PM |
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I said it was a heinous crime. Like rape or torture. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-26-04 09:23 PM |
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I don't get into tricky shit. I don't even know what a straw man or PA is |
Kimber Scott |
Dec-26-04 09:43 PM |
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Here you are: |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-26-04 10:07 PM |
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You should learn then. |
Sterling |
Dec-27-04 09:41 PM |
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I think it should be seen as a denial of the pregnant woman's civil rights |
TahitiNut |
Dec-26-04 08:57 PM |
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Oh, some brains. What a relief. (nt) |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-26-04 09:19 PM |
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I'd call it a "keen sense of the obvious." |
TahitiNut |
Dec-26-04 09:32 PM |
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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
kitkatrose |
Dec-27-04 09:52 AM |
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I absolutely agree. And denial of that woman's civil rights |
0007 |
Dec-26-04 09:53 PM |
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Does the IRS consider a fetus a dependent for tax purposes? |
Erika |
Dec-26-04 11:30 PM |
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Good point about the IRS. It is funny how the right winger |
0007 |
Dec-27-04 08:11 AM |
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BUT She didn't |
forgethell |
Dec-27-04 03:12 PM |
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I'm glad they're going to prosecute this dude |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-26-04 08:43 PM |
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Yes it is political... |
aikido15 |
Dec-26-04 08:46 PM |
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they hardly ever charge attempted murder these days. Assault is all they |
demigoddess |
Dec-26-04 09:38 PM |
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This Is Scary |
iamjoy |
Dec-26-04 09:54 PM |
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I agree with you |
melnjones |
Dec-26-04 10:19 PM |
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Name removed |
Dec-27-04 01:30 AM |
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OH MY GAWD |
MissBrooks |
Dec-26-04 08:35 PM |
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AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! |
DS1 |
Dec-29-04 07:34 AM |
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Scott Peterson Syndrome. |
PartyPooper |
Dec-26-04 08:36 PM |
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Here is a verse from the Bible, that seems to cover the case |
daleo |
Dec-26-04 09:08 PM |
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Calling it criminal denial of a woman's Civil RIghts would serve all. |
TahitiNut |
Dec-26-04 09:19 PM |
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This is the reason I wanted to post this. |
theorist |
Dec-26-04 09:20 PM |
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There are good reasons why we separate church and state |
proudbluestater |
Dec-26-04 09:24 PM |
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I wasn't actually advocating the Biblical position |
daleo |
Dec-27-04 01:00 AM |
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DUers ..... last time I checked Cal had found a clever way ... |
Maat |
Dec-26-04 09:26 PM |
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I agree, the Bible describes a civil suit, not murder. n/t |
jody |
Dec-27-04 09:11 AM |
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Yet my full-term stillborn son never existed |
CornField |
Dec-26-04 09:28 PM |
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That's wrong |
knitter4democracy |
Dec-27-04 08:16 AM |
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bush* should allow a tax-deduction for a child born....so the family |
diamond14 |
Dec-27-04 01:28 PM |
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How do you bury him without a death certificate? |
Eloriel |
Dec-27-04 08:58 AM |
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We were never asked for one |
CornField |
Dec-27-04 10:10 AM |
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Your son |
Johnny Noshoes |
Dec-27-04 06:57 PM |
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the solution to cases like these are easy. If the women doesn't choose... |
sonicx |
Dec-26-04 09:31 PM |
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"Assault/murder resulting in the termination of a PREGNANCY" |
rocknation |
Dec-27-04 11:57 AM |
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Whatever you call it, they should lock this guy up and throw away the key |
dolstein |
Dec-26-04 09:38 PM |
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A lot of men and women may change their position to pro-choice due to this |
bleedingheart |
Dec-26-04 09:45 PM |
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Bleedingheart, Your Thoughts Are Also What Came To My Mind Too |
cryingshame |
Dec-29-04 08:52 AM |
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my mom lost a pregnancy when slightly hit from behind at a red light.... |
diamond14 |
Dec-26-04 10:39 PM |
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Was this a accident, seemed intentional to me. This is apples and oranges |
genieroze |
Dec-26-04 11:10 PM |
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did the boyfriend INTENTIALLY try to kill the fetus...or was he just |
diamond14 |
Dec-26-04 11:43 PM |
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I have never been choked or kicked in the stomach. Just the thought of |
genieroze |
Dec-27-04 12:24 AM |
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yes, the pregnant woman could have been trying to "Lorraine Bobbit" him |
diamond14 |
Dec-27-04 01:47 AM |
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Careful with words here |
Maria Celeste |
Dec-27-04 12:26 AM |
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Welcome to DU, Maria, and thank you for your thoughts. |
theorist |
Dec-27-04 12:34 AM |
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Welcome to DU, Marie Celeste...good first post...logical, well thought |
diamond14 |
Dec-27-04 01:17 AM |
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As a chemist, I would like to also be thought of as a scientist. |
theorist |
Dec-27-04 01:24 AM |
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ahhhh....perhaps you are a "physical chemist"? with all those |
diamond14 |
Dec-27-04 02:05 AM |
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I didn't follow it closely either, but |
Eloriel |
Dec-27-04 09:12 AM |
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Hum, the rest said |
genieroze |
Dec-26-04 11:04 PM |
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Maybe the better question is |
Gardeaux08 |
Dec-26-04 11:23 PM |
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Exactly. eom |
genieroze |
Dec-26-04 11:33 PM |
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You already know the answer to that one :( |
Solly Mack |
Dec-26-04 11:38 PM |
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My question exactly |
sandnsea |
Dec-26-04 11:53 PM |
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fetal fantacism |
annabanana |
Dec-29-04 08:10 AM |
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nice of the cops to so publicly pre-judge the medical report..... |
diamond14 |
Dec-27-04 12:01 AM |
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Now that I agree with, the police should wait for the coroner before |
genieroze |
Dec-27-04 12:14 AM |
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those fundie bushites will NOT feel stupid...they will feel that GOD |
diamond14 |
Dec-27-04 12:23 AM |
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Wow and I thought I hated the Reich Wing, lol eom |
genieroze |
Dec-27-04 12:45 AM |
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I don't hate anyone, but I feel that bush* and his minions are VERY |
diamond14 |
Dec-27-04 02:00 PM |
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Assault on a pregnant woman |
sandnsea |
Dec-26-04 11:50 PM |
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No, the Republicans only think of women as recepticles |
Erika |
Dec-27-04 12:20 AM |
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That's my first gripe, the fetus shouldn't come into play |
genieroze |
Dec-27-04 12:26 AM |
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Since there is a military provision in this law... |
countryjake |
Dec-27-04 12:01 AM |
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just ARGUE with a pregnant women, and if she miscarried later MURDER |
diamond14 |
Dec-27-04 12:14 AM |
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Yep. Let's find out who to really prosecute in the deaths of fetuses |
Erika |
Dec-27-04 12:32 AM |
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We must do something about these "Fetus Worship" laws |
damkira |
Dec-27-04 01:02 AM |
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I'm glad the fucker was arrested and charged... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Dec-27-04 01:41 AM |
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Yes, Poor health, inner city pollution, etc. |
Erika |
Dec-27-04 01:46 AM |
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It won't be long |
Malva Zebrina |
Dec-27-04 09:45 AM |
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In California? |
Megahurtz |
Dec-27-04 05:32 PM |
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disagree with charges |
rebecca_herman |
Dec-27-04 07:50 PM |
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And so the backdoor assault on abortion rights continues. Wonderful. |
nodehopper |
Dec-27-04 08:14 PM |
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A little background |
Jack Rabbit |
Dec-27-04 10:05 PM |
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actually |
rebecca_herman |
Dec-28-04 02:57 AM |
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Thank you for jarring my memory about that case |
Jack Rabbit |
Dec-28-04 07:49 AM |
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will they seek the death penalty? |
mutius |
Dec-28-04 06:36 AM |
#113 |