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156. OMG! THIS is what he was working on- ARMY RECRUITING TACTICS!
http://www.newsreview.com/issues/sacto/2004-10-14/cover...
We wonder what new threat he posed if he was still around at this point, right?

If Webb was rubbed out (likely, not proven), I think THIS IS WHY:

HE EXPOSED HOW THE ARMY PROFILES AND TRAINS TEENS USING PSY-OPS ON THE INTERNET AND VIDEO GAMES!

Lack of not just fodder, but highly-skilled kids who can kill effectively under stress are what the BFEE/PNAC Empire DESPERATELY NEEDS TO CONQUER THE WORLD by operating the machines of war.

A sophisticated 'first-shooter' game called 'Americas Army' was developed by the US military to both train, indoctrinate, and research the young minds they need. Free on line. Very popular.

Webb had the drop on them for using cocaine money and he had the drop on their NEW SCAM-USING THE DRUG OF VIDEO GAMES TO EXPLORE AND BEND MINDS. (Of course, that's what TV has been doing for over 50 years.)

Read it and weep for both our kids and their victims:

>snip<

If, like the U.S. Army, you need people who can become unflappable killers, there’s no better way of finding them. It’s why the Army has spent more than $10 million in taxpayer funds developing its very own first-person shooter, and why the Navy, the Air Force and the National Guard are following suit.

>snip<

“I have to laugh when someone says, ‘Oh, the people playing these games know it’s not real,’” said Dr. Peter Vorberer, a clinical psychologist and head of the University of Southern California’s computer game research group. “Of course they think it’s real! That’s why people play them for hours and hours. They’re designed to make you believe it’s real. Games are probably the purest example yet of the Internet melding with reality.”

>snip<

Stanford University psychology professor B.J. Fogg isn’t surprised to see such dedication to a computer game.

“Video games, better than anything else in our culture, deliver rewards to people, especially teenage boys," said Fogg, who studies the effects of computer games. “Teenage boys are wired to seek competency. To master our world and get better at stuff. Video games, in dishing out rewards, can convey to people that their competency is growing, you can get better at something second by second."

>snip<

As the number of people playing Counter-Strike soared into the millions, the U.S. Army could only watch wistfully. For years, Army recruiters had diligently pursued the very same demographic-- middle-class teenage males--with dwindling success.

In late 1999, after missing their recruiting goals that year, Army officials got together with the civilian directors of a Navy think tank at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey to discuss ways of luring computer gamers into the military.

Combat gamers not only happened to target the right age for the Army’s purposes but, more importantly, possessed exactly the kind of information-processing skills the Army needed: the ability to think quickly under fire.

“Our military information tends to arrive in a flood ... and it’ll arrive in a flood under stressful conditions, and there’ll be a hell of a lot of noise,” said Col. Casey Wardynski, a military economist who came up with the idea for an official Army computer game. “How do you filter that? What are your tools? What is your facility in doing that? What is your level of comfort? How much load can you bear? Kids who are comfortable with that are going to be real comfortable ... with the Army of the future.”

From an Army report: “Aptitudes related to information handling and information culture values are seen as vital to the effectiveness of the high-tech, network-centric Army of the future, and young American gamers are seen as especially proficient in these capabilities. More importantly, when young Americans enter the Army, they increasingly will find that key information will be conveyed via computer video displays akin to the graphical interfaces found in games.”

With the vast funding of the U.S. government behind them, the Army/Navy team began developing a game that hopefully would turn some of its players into real soldiers. “The overall mission statement ... was to develop a game with appeal similar to the game Counter-Strike,” wrote Michael Zyda, the director of the Navy think tank. “We took Counter-Strike as our model, but with heavy emphasis on realism and Army values and training.”

An experimental psychologist from the Navy helped tweak the game’s sound effects to produce heightened blood pressure, body temperature and heart rate. It was released in digital double surround sound, which few games are. In terms of game play, it was designed as a “tactical” shooter, slower-paced, more deliberate, but with Counter-Strike’s demanding squad tactics and communications--a “serious” game for kids who took their war gaming seriously.

After two years of development, America’s Army was released to the public on the first Fourth of July after 9/11. The gaming world gasped and then cheered. Contrary to expectations, the government-made shooter was every bit as good a $50 retail shooter and, in some ways, better. Plus, it was free--downloadable from the Internet at www.americasarmy.com . That, too, was a calculation--one the Army hoped would weed out people who didn’t know much about computers. The game and its distribution system were difficult by design, Zyda said.

“That was a very key thing. First, they would have to be smart enough to download the game off the Internet. Then, they would have to become good at , which isn’t easy. To attract those kinds of people, that was the mission. That’s what we were looking for.”

The game does a good job separating the wheat from the chaff. Before you’re allowed to join an online game, you must undergo weapons training and send your firing range scores to the Army. If you’re a lousy shot, you can’t play. Once inside the game, it gets no easier. The virtual battlefield is enormous, and your enemy is often hidden under cover of darkness. “Newbies” are quickly cut to pieces. Unlike Counter-Strike, America’s Army players aren’t allowed to be on the terrorists’ side. Your team always looks like American soldiers, and the other team always looks like terrorists (or “OPFORs” in Army lingo, meaning “opposing forces.”)

In the wake of 9/11, the public and media reaction was, in the Army’s words, “overwhelmingly positive.” Salon’s Wagner James Au, for example, gushed that the game would help “create the wartime culture that is so desperately needed now” and excitedly anticipated the day when youngsters raised on America’s Army would pick up real weapons to cleanse the globe of real terrorists. Most media accounts focused on the novelty of using a video game to help find recruits and carried jocular headlines like “Uncle Sim Wants You.”

“We thought we’d have a lot more problems,” Zyda said. “But the country is in this mood where anything the military does is great. ... 9/11 sort of assured the success of this game. I’m not sure what kind of reception it would have received otherwise.”

There are now more than 4 million registered users, more than half of whom have completed weapons training and gone online to play, making it the fourth most-played online shooter. The Army says there are 500 fan sites on the Web, and recruiters have been busy setting up local tournaments and cultivating an America’s Army “community” on the Internet, hoping to replicate the Counter-Strike phenomenon.

“With respect to recruitment, actual results won’t be known for four or five years, when the current raft of 13- and 14-year-olds will be old enough to join,” Zyda wrote.


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  -Gary Webb dead of self inflicted gunshot woundS! tinanator  Dec-12-04 11:10 AM   #0 
  - Gads  charlie   Dec-12-04 11:12 AM   #1 
  - Damn! Wonder if he was working on Votergate stuff ala Madsen? n/t  jamboi   Dec-12-04 02:12 PM   #40 
     - 2 journalists dead on 12/10/04 ??? Coincidence?  merh   Dec-12-04 02:51 PM   #46 
     - OMG! THIS is what he was working on- ARMY RECRUITING TACTICS!  JohnOneillsMemory   Dec-14-04 10:31 AM   #156 
        - Thanks JohnOneillsMemory  sattahipdeep   Dec-14-04 11:00 AM   #158 
  - Is that Gary Webb of 'Dark Alliance' and the CIA-drug connection  lostnfound   Dec-12-04 11:12 AM   #2 
  - Yes, that's the one.  Blue_In_AK   Dec-13-04 04:09 PM   #121 
  - Pardon my ignorance, but who is Gary Webb?  RebelOne   Dec-12-04 11:13 AM   #3 
  - He was an investigative reporter  0007   Dec-12-04 03:33 PM   #53 
  - Here it is  charlie   Dec-12-04 11:13 AM   #4 
  - his reporting was daring, well researched and riveting  salin   Dec-12-04 11:44 AM   #17 
  - It's really annoying that the Mercury News did a backward shuffle..  lostnfound   Dec-12-04 11:44 AM   #18 
  - Gary Webb, 49, former MN reporter, author  Sporadicus   Dec-12-04 11:13 AM   #5 
  - The note on the door is peculiar  Straight Shooter   Dec-12-04 09:30 PM   #77 
  - Actually, it's not - let me explain  Red State Rebel   Dec-13-04 11:36 AM   #105 
     - I understand the courtesy aspect  Straight Shooter   Dec-13-04 06:32 PM   #125 
  - This is CRAP!!!!  ProudDad   Dec-14-04 01:02 AM   #135 
     - Not Reagan, Bush  tinanator   Dec-14-04 07:15 AM   #144 
  - Here is a story on it...  qanda   Dec-12-04 11:19 AM   #6 
  - Add another investigative journalist to the Bush Body Count.  blm   Dec-12-04 11:24 AM   #7 
  - How many have there been?  Geek_Girl   Dec-12-04 12:39 PM   #34 
     - Here's a short list...  Octafish   Dec-12-04 08:57 PM   #75 
        - Thanks for the list...nfm  ally_sc   Dec-13-04 06:58 AM   #87 
        - You're welcome, ally_sc!  Octafish   Dec-13-04 12:08 PM   #110 
           - Ha ha. Great comment: Seems true enough! Thanks for that list! n/t  Judi Lynn   Dec-13-04 05:11 PM   #124 
        - Very Informative Post - Thank you, Octafish!  leveymg   Dec-13-04 08:20 AM   #88 
        - Here's a Bush Organized Crime Family starter pack...  Octafish   Dec-13-04 11:59 AM   #108 
           - The BFEE Crime Family starter pack..............  nolabels   Dec-14-04 09:42 AM   #151 
        - Incredible stuff. No wonder they killed Steve Kangas  donkeyotay   Dec-13-04 11:27 AM   #104 
        - Don Q, Steve Kangas had them pegged.  Octafish   Dec-13-04 12:02 PM   #109 
        - California is the next neo-con target, not Iran. Think Webb had Ahnuld  JohnOneillsMemory   Dec-13-04 04:41 PM   #122 
           - Sad to say that reads right, JohnOneillsMemory.  Octafish   Dec-13-04 10:00 PM   #128 
        - Look at how we acquired Hawaii  Must_B_Free   Dec-14-04 01:37 AM   #138 
        - How about other journalists committing suicide?  pipes   Dec-13-04 04:02 PM   #120 
  - I see he was quite outspoken against Bush before the election  eowyn_of_rohan   Dec-12-04 11:25 AM   #9 
  - I think it's a message to other investigative reporters  shadowknows69   Dec-12-04 11:39 AM   #13 
  - Many ardent Kerry supporters are not doubt on a suicide watch  SleeplessinSoCal   Dec-12-04 06:20 PM   #68 
     - Welcome to DU SleeplessinSoCal  donheld   Dec-13-04 02:06 AM   #85 
  - At least it says 'apparent suicide'  bullimiami   Dec-12-04 11:42 AM   #16 
  - This story says "a gunshot wound" (singular)  Barrett808   Dec-12-04 12:23 PM   #27 
     - neither  tinanator   Dec-12-04 12:24 PM   #29 
        - Just a rhetorical question.  Barrett808   Dec-12-04 12:35 PM   #32 
  - ???  Straight Shooter   Dec-12-04 11:24 AM   #8 
  - Here's a link to a show he did with us  Thaddeus   Dec-12-04 11:30 AM   #10 
  - Those unfamiliar with this man should hear his story in his own words  psychopomp   Dec-14-04 09:13 AM   #149 
  - good link, thank you. nt  Califooyah Operative   Dec-14-04 08:03 PM   #165 
  - caselaro-ed?  nashville_brook   Dec-12-04 11:33 AM   #11 
  - Yet they're such  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Dec-12-04 04:56 PM   #61 
  - Dark Alliance: The CIA, the Contras, and the Crack Cocaine Explosion  Barrett808   Dec-12-04 11:33 AM   #12 
  - Here's one of the reviews  qanda   Dec-12-04 11:41 AM   #14 
  - Side temple?  aquart   Dec-12-04 11:42 AM   #15 
  - Unless it's an in and out shot...  haele   Dec-12-04 06:03 PM   #67 
  - Maybe "wounds" if a shotgun was involved.  thecrow   Dec-12-04 06:25 PM   #69 
  - He shot himself more than once  MuseRider   Dec-12-04 11:46 AM   #19 
  - Ten bucks says he was murdered  nothingshocksmeanymore   Dec-12-04 11:51 AM   #20 
  - Thousand bucks says you're right...  BeHereNow   Dec-12-04 12:32 PM   #30 
     - Oh no - is it the Israeli Movers again?  Must_B_Free   Dec-14-04 01:41 AM   #139 
  - Does anybody know  Geek_Girl   Dec-12-04 11:51 AM   #21 
  - It says the Movers found him? Why was he moving...to where?  zann725   Dec-12-04 11:54 AM   #22 
  - Bush Doctrine of Pre-emption? I wonder what Gary Webb was working on.  Fridays Child   Dec-12-04 11:57 AM   #23 
  - One more "coincidence" in a long chain of "coincidences."  Dr Fate   Dec-12-04 12:04 PM   #24 
  - Goddamn  Minstrel Boy   Dec-12-04 12:09 PM   #25 
  - suicide my ass...this was assassination...  Guarionex   Dec-12-04 12:14 PM   #26 
  - He was MOVING...  BeHereNow   Dec-12-04 12:34 PM   #31 
  - Which other journalists have committed suicide in the  ikojo   Dec-12-04 05:10 PM   #64 
  - If the press doesn't start picking up the slack,  Judi Lynn   Dec-12-04 12:24 PM   #28 
  - Nobody Will Touch This Story  AndyTiedye   Dec-12-04 12:36 PM   #33 
     - Is Sy Hersh is a safe, undisclosed location. This is scary stuff.  bunny planet   Dec-12-04 04:41 PM   #59 
  - RIP Mr Webb. He was one hell of a journalist. As opposed to our modern  Guy Whitey Corngood   Dec-12-04 01:01 PM   #35 
  - I don't believe it. Not suicide. nt  glitch   Dec-12-04 01:02 PM   #36 
  - Damn them. This will be happening even more to dot connecters.  JohnOneillsMemory   Dec-12-04 01:26 PM   #37 
  - Not if we don't let them.  shance   Dec-12-04 08:42 PM   #74 
     - Conspiracy theorist!!! Voila, I just completely discredited you.  Mokito   Dec-13-04 12:53 AM   #84 
  - Into The Buzzsaw  bin.dare   Dec-12-04 01:48 PM   #38 
  - "In seventeen years of doing this, nothing bad had happened to me."  Minstrel Boy   Dec-12-04 02:13 PM   #41 
  - Another voice silenced!  merh   Dec-12-04 01:52 PM   #39 
  - Amen merh! n/t  jamboi   Dec-12-04 02:13 PM   #42 
  - When you start thinking about it  jdots   Dec-12-04 02:20 PM   #44 
  - This man was a hero. I believe he was a military brat, son of a  harrison   Dec-12-04 02:20 PM   #43 
  - Looks like our "leaders" are on a streak of assassinations  IndianaGreen   Dec-12-04 02:20 PM   #45 
  - HOW MANY MORE BEFORE PEOPLE WAKE UP??  Blue_Tires   Dec-12-04 02:57 PM   #47 
  - nt  eowyn_of_rohan   Dec-12-04 03:06 PM   #49 
  - Didn't Mike Ruppert also work on that drug story?  dotcosm   Dec-12-04 03:01 PM   #48 
  - Gary Webb spoke highly of Ruppert. Ruppert  Carl Brennan   Dec-12-04 06:54 PM   #71 
  - Rest in Peace Gary.  anarchy1999   Dec-12-04 03:19 PM   #50 
  - Someone please tell me...  KeireG   Dec-12-04 03:24 PM   #51 
     - Cia/ crack epdeimic. of the 80's. Google it. Maxine Waters held a big  henslee   Dec-12-04 03:31 PM   #52 
     - Excerpt explains it  lostnfound   Dec-12-04 03:46 PM   #54 
     - It was all part of Reagan's bs war on drugs  DoYouEverWonder   Dec-12-04 05:02 PM   #62 
        - I was a teenager in the 80's Living in Miami  Geek_Girl   Dec-12-04 05:29 PM   #65 
  - They silenced another one.  The Zanti Regent   Dec-12-04 04:24 PM   #55 
  - Use Occam's Razor, folks.  robertarctor   Dec-12-04 04:30 PM   #56 
  - Use your brains....  Conservativesux   Dec-12-04 04:37 PM   #57 
  - Did you even bother to read my post?  robertarctor   Dec-12-04 04:53 PM   #60 
  - Do you know what he was working on?  Geek_Girl   Dec-12-04 05:34 PM   #66 
  - Yes.  robertarctor   Dec-12-04 06:28 PM   #70 
     - i have  Bluerthanblue   Dec-12-04 10:26 PM   #81 
     - Add to that they didn't HAVE to "hit" him, he was already neutralized...  JHB   Dec-13-04 09:14 AM   #93 
     - Just to let us know you can't get away with what he did in SJMN  psychopomp   Dec-13-04 11:20 AM   #103 
     - If you didn't know they are very very vindictive RAT EFFERS  nolabels   Dec-14-04 10:13 AM   #153 
     - So what did he leave the kids with?  Must_B_Free   Dec-14-04 01:48 AM   #140 
  - You worked with him but know nothing about him, you admit.  aquart   Dec-13-04 11:40 AM   #106 
     - I'm sorry. I don't have a theory.  robertarctor   Dec-14-04 09:41 AM   #150 
  - People just happen to be on internet forums to answer for this "suicide?"  The Judged   Dec-13-04 10:55 AM   #101 
  - thank you for the information  RainDog   Dec-12-04 07:57 PM   #72 
  - I am the first to suspect right wing hit squads, but your explanation...  Merlin   Dec-12-04 09:07 PM   #76 
  - BULLSHIT.............Suicide my ass!  Tight_rope   Dec-12-04 04:37 PM   #58 
  - It was in the head not hand.  proudtobeadem   Dec-12-04 05:07 PM   #63 
  - Please, remember STEVE KANGAS  GarySeven   Dec-12-04 07:58 PM   #73 
  - Way to many untimely Deaths  LibertyorDeath   Dec-12-04 09:34 PM   #78 
  - woah.  republikkkon   Dec-12-04 10:03 PM   #79 
  - Yeah well & truly fucked  LibertyorDeath   Dec-12-04 10:20 PM   #80 
  - Athan Gibbs  Octafish   Dec-13-04 09:54 PM   #127 
  - We need to better protect folks like this. Maybe investigative journalists  w4rma   Dec-12-04 10:26 PM   #82 
  - The CIA - Contra cocaine story was the one Kerry investigated too  RhodaGrits   Dec-12-04 10:48 PM   #83 
  - People like Gary Webb don't commit suicide!! This is highly suspicious!  Pachamama   Dec-13-04 06:23 AM   #86 
  - Yes they do. Let's not do a Vince Foster here. Anyone can suffer from  yellowcanine   Dec-13-04 08:50 AM   #90 
     - I don't minimize Depression & Suicide -but anyone who knows anything about  Pachamama   Dec-13-04 10:45 AM   #98 
     - FOR GOD'S SAKE! what are the odds of 4 Bush biographers committing suicide  clem_c_rock   Dec-13-04 10:45 AM   #99 
     - "All you wimpy moderates are going to get us killed someday."  Minstrel Boy   Dec-13-04 11:14 AM   #102 
     - I must have missed the part about Webb being a Bush biographer.  yellowcanine   Dec-13-04 01:31 PM   #112 
        - y'know  sojourner   Dec-13-04 03:47 PM   #118 
           - Theories aren't fruitfully explored by making charges supported by zero  yellowcanine   Dec-13-04 11:20 PM   #131 
              - laughable  tinanator   Dec-14-04 07:22 AM   #145 
     - Would it seem logical that a person suffering from depression  Judi Lynn   Dec-13-04 05:06 PM   #123 
        - Actually many highly creative people and competent people have suffered  yellowcanine   Dec-13-04 11:34 PM   #132 
  - A Bush Mafia hit  ZombyWoof   Dec-13-04 08:40 AM   #89 
  - Why now? He broke the story about cocaine/CIA in the late 80s?  noonwitch   Dec-13-04 08:51 AM   #91 
     - setting an example, sending a message. and it was '96.  Minstrel Boy   Dec-13-04 09:00 AM   #92 
     - The San Jose Mercury ran articles on the story in the late 80s-the 1996  noonwitch   Dec-14-04 07:22 AM   #146 
        - We're talking about Webb, and his series was from '96. n/t  Minstrel Boy   Dec-14-04 10:16 AM   #154 
     - Just like Admiral Boorda, and the British Scientist....  WannaJumpMyScooter   Dec-13-04 10:01 AM   #95 
     - Anyone knows what he was working on nowadays?  robbedvoter   Dec-14-04 08:05 AM   #147 
     - I've thought about the 'when' part of the revenge a lot when I've  higher class   Dec-14-04 09:47 AM   #152 
        - But then it could be they found out that he was working on something new  TexasBushwhacker   Dec-14-04 10:22 AM   #155 
        - As stupid as it may or may not sound, it might be only now........  nolabels   Dec-14-04 10:44 AM   #157 
  - This was not a Suicide this was murder!!! This is a coverup  lovuian   Dec-13-04 09:22 AM   #94 
  - Yeah Right - what are the odds of 4 Bush biographers committing suicide??  clem_c_rock   Dec-13-04 10:28 AM   #96 
  - So will somebody please name the 4 "Bush Biographers" who have  yellowcanine   Dec-13-04 01:41 PM   #113 
     - I think these are the investigators people have in mind:  Barrett808   Dec-13-04 02:13 PM   #115 
        - Okay, I see ONE Bush biographer (Hatfield) who committed suicide.  yellowcanine   Dec-13-04 02:39 PM   #116 
           - Strictly speaking, the only "biographer" in the list is Hatfield  Barrett808   Dec-13-04 03:48 PM   #119 
           - Steve Kangas?  Must_B_Free   Dec-14-04 01:30 AM   #137 
              - He's a Bush Biographer? Really?  yellowcanine   Dec-14-04 07:47 PM   #163 
                 - Spaghetti  SittingBull   Dec-15-04 05:28 AM   #169 
  - ttt  Blue_Tires   Dec-13-04 10:42 AM   #97 
  - Self inflicted?  Megahurtz   Dec-13-04 10:49 AM   #100 
  - It has been going on in Russia for some time.  eek   Dec-13-04 11:56 AM   #107 
  - MONSTERS!! My, how that fucking Bush Body Count is growing!  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-13-04 01:20 PM   #111 
  - Wounds, plural, hmm...I think he was "suicided"  texpatriot2004   Dec-13-04 02:06 PM   #114 
  - Why can't the second wound be an exit wound?  Ladyhawk   Dec-13-04 10:22 PM   #130 
  - Bush Crime Family strikes again  Chovexani   Dec-13-04 02:43 PM   #117 
  - Shall we add this one to the Bush body count list?  Sparkle   Dec-13-04 09:51 PM   #126 
  - Of course, they weren't self-inflicted!  Dancing_Dave   Dec-13-04 10:02 PM   #129 
  - Wait a minute It say "Wounds ", like in more than one, he must have  hangloose   Dec-14-04 12:17 AM   #133 
  - Yes actually and the guy survived. It was a strange case. At first he  Garbo 2004   Dec-14-04 07:10 AM   #143 
  - I don't believe it  ProudDad   Dec-14-04 12:55 AM   #134 
  - A faked suicide is the usual way our politians wipe out  Debbie13   Dec-14-04 09:11 AM   #148 
  - What an amazing murderer this guy was  Must_B_Free   Dec-14-04 01:28 AM   #136 
  - VETERAN DEA AGENTS BACKED GARY WEBB  major_rager   Dec-14-04 03:46 AM   #141 
  - COMPREHENSIVE EVIDENCE BEHIND WEBB STORY  major_rager   Dec-14-04 03:55 AM   #142 
  - This big hole connects at money laundering, 9/11 and several other........  nolabels   Dec-14-04 11:17 AM   #159 
  - What is this doing on p.2?  psychopomp   Dec-14-04 11:46 AM   #160 
  - p.3?  psychopomp   Dec-14-04 06:51 PM   #162 
  - Alex Jones is also not letting it rest either  nolabels   Dec-14-04 12:37 PM   #161 
  - todays Flashpoints Robert Parry on Gary Webb  tinanator   Dec-14-04 07:59 PM   #164 
  - Gary Webb-evidence of murder  Truthbeknown   Dec-14-04 10:08 PM   #166 
  - Thanks for posting the link  nolabels   Dec-15-04 02:39 AM   #167 
  - Good lord : (  psychopomp   Dec-15-04 03:20 AM   #168 
  - Coworker tribute to Gary Webb letter to editor,  Algorem   Dec-17-04 04:18 PM   #170 
 

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