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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 08:34 PM
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51. I have serious issues with the way Move On operates.
I stuck my neck out and hurried a project together that they needed done in a rush. If I would not have come through it would not have happened, period. This project involved me facilitating a shoot for a famous director for an ad they did in their 10 weeks campaign.

They promised to pay for the gear and crew in a specific time frame. As soon as the project had been done the project director informed me that they would have to wait about a month or more to pay the huge rental budget and crew until they "approved" the work that had been done.

When I complained to the project director she hung up on me and refused to address the issue. I could have sued the shit out of them but did not out of common cause with them but they really left their asses hanging out if I had decided to hold them accountable.

I had called in a lot of favors and put my day job on the line. They made me look like an idiot to my bosses and were incredibly rude about the whole thing.

It's sad because they are one of the groups I would like to support the most but some of them have some serious ego problems and feel it is OK to burn people who help them. To this day every time I read about something they are doing I half feel like I want them to succeed and half wonder why the hell I would support people with such low ethics and regard for honoring their commitments.
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  -MoveOn to Democratic Party: 'We Own It' Rose Siding  Dec-09-04 05:02 PM   #0 
  - Dem to MoveOn, "They stole it."  joeunderdog   Dec-09-04 05:05 PM   #1 
  - Both sides are true. They did steal it but our leaders also sold us out.  Fridays Child   Dec-09-04 05:10 PM   #2 
  - What? They stole what we sold to them????  kurtyboy   Dec-10-04 12:16 AM   #70 
  - Love the graphic in your sig line! nt  blondeatlast   Dec-10-04 06:12 PM   #92 
  - That's almost beside the point  Spiffarino   Dec-09-04 05:13 PM   #3 
  - Yes, that's so right. If we're going to go down, let's at least go down  mistertrickster   Dec-09-04 05:20 PM   #6 
  - Hear, Hear, n/t  prairierose   Dec-09-04 06:00 PM   #19 
  - there was no accountability for all the time and effort donated to the DNC  Snivi Yllom   Dec-09-04 06:52 PM   #29 
     - Doubt it  Upfront   Dec-09-04 07:18 PM   #33 
        - Who cares what the DNC does? We'll just forge forward without it!!!  Just Me   Dec-09-04 08:31 PM   #50 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-09-04 05:32 PM   #11 
  - CNN exit poll 1:15am and then 6:15am postelection day  jmcgowanjm   Dec-09-04 07:13 PM   #32 
  - Do you consider FDR's death a coup, or Truman's victory over Dewey rigged  6th Borough   Dec-10-04 05:42 PM   #87 
  - There is such a thing a probable cause. Show your friends the  buddysmellgood   Dec-09-04 09:11 PM   #63 
  - The MSM is the problem.  blondeatlast   Dec-10-04 06:13 PM   #93 
  - "They stole it," because the DNC & DLC did not do their jobs.  The Judged   Dec-09-04 08:05 PM   #44 
  - Nice, Judged. Like the DNC were crypto-Republicans  jmcgowanjm   Dec-09-04 08:25 PM   #48 
  - Add timely to your final paragraph.  6th Borough   Dec-10-04 05:47 PM   #88 
     - Precisely, and the thing is, it's been happening for years. nt  blondeatlast   Dec-10-04 06:15 PM   #94 
  - "...stole" it? "STOLE" IT? Hey, Terry Mac...  johnfunk   Dec-10-04 04:02 PM   #83 
  - Nice, I may have to start unhating MoveOn now.  Sterling   Dec-09-04 05:15 PM   #4 
  - With you  sfexpat2000   Dec-09-04 06:40 PM   #28 
     - I have serious issues with the way Move On operates.  Sterling   Dec-09-04 08:34 PM   #51 
        - Yeah, that's bad. Even big corporate types follow a set of ethics  mistertrickster   Dec-10-04 12:11 AM   #69 
           - It was a little of bit being disorganized and a lot unreasonable  Sterling   Dec-10-04 06:22 PM   #95 
           - bottom line is....  Sterling   Dec-10-04 09:26 PM   #98 
  - This is great. We can't take back our country until we take back our  mistertrickster   Dec-09-04 05:17 PM   #5 
  - LOVE THIS QUOTE!!  proud2Blib   Dec-09-04 07:22 PM   #36 
     - Yes, I'm also proud to be a liberal ...  ElectroPrincess   Dec-09-04 09:13 PM   #64 
  - Finally!  intheflow   Dec-09-04 05:20 PM   #7 
  - WOO HOO!  MsMagnificent   Dec-09-04 05:23 PM   #8 
  - BINGO! We have a winner  RegexReader   Dec-09-04 07:40 PM   #42 
  - That was my favorite line. n/t  Child_Of_Isis   Dec-10-04 01:45 PM   #74 
  - Excellent!  tilsammans   Dec-09-04 05:24 PM   #9 
  - Does this mean Eli Pariser for DNC Chair?  SoiledEarthLink   Dec-09-04 05:27 PM   #10 
  - I don't think so, but Howard Dean is! eom  BareNakedLiberal   Dec-09-04 05:59 PM   #18 
  - I'm Steve DeShazer  Steve_DeShazer   Dec-09-04 05:37 PM   #12 
  - Where can I find the e-mail. Anyone with a link?  seriousstan   Dec-09-04 05:48 PM   #13 
  - full text  Crisco   Dec-09-04 05:57 PM   #17 
     - well here's what I send them....  fnottr   Dec-09-04 06:11 PM   #24 
        - A whole lot of us are getting carried away, fnottr!  PassingFair   Dec-09-04 07:37 PM   #40 
        - You "Got Carried Away"  YankeeFan   Dec-09-04 08:13 PM   #45 
        - You go right ahead and get carried away...  sendero   Dec-09-04 08:52 PM   #56 
        - Thanks  fnottr   Dec-09-04 10:22 PM   #66 
           - I agree...  sendero   Dec-10-04 06:43 AM   #71 
        - This is what I sent  eridani   Dec-09-04 10:24 PM   #67 
  - Pathetic move on Move-on's part  TheDonkey   Dec-09-04 05:48 PM   #14 
  - I AGREE!  catgirl   Dec-09-04 06:02 PM   #20 
  - Wrong. Light a fire under your complacency.  Voltaire99   Dec-09-04 08:44 PM   #53 
  - It's not about their method of success.  Bleachers7   Dec-10-04 02:07 PM   #76 
  - I agree, it could split the party right down the middle...  Bono71   Dec-10-04 02:34 PM   #77 
     - If you are not against the war, we ain't got nothing in common!  IndianaGreen   Dec-10-04 06:06 PM   #90 
  - Finally, McAuliffe and the other "leaders" have to go!!!! n/t  VegasWolf   Dec-09-04 05:54 PM   #15 
  - Let's Point Fingers  catgirl   Dec-09-04 06:08 PM   #22 
     - Bet your buttocks, I would!  PassingFair   Dec-09-04 07:39 PM   #41 
     - You would have a leg to stand on but....  Sterling   Dec-09-04 08:21 PM   #47 
     - It would be our job to be blasting kerry and McAuliffe  donheld   Dec-09-04 08:53 PM   #57 
     - The stolen election whining is tiresome.  Voltaire99   Dec-09-04 08:56 PM   #59 
  - New Party?-Liberal Democrats  Smirking_Chimp   Dec-09-04 05:56 PM   #16 
  - I like the sound of that ... Liberal Democrats? Yes, I'm there :-).  ElectroPrincess   Dec-09-04 09:17 PM   #65 
     - Hell, the Alaska Moderate Republican Party is left of the Dem "center" /nt  6th Borough   Dec-10-04 06:10 PM   #91 
  - "Liberal powerhouse" -- wow, nice recognition!  Hekate   Dec-09-04 06:06 PM   #21 
  - Does moveon file an expense sheet or summary of donation distribution?  SoiledEarthLink   Dec-09-04 06:11 PM   #23 
  - How does this affect their status as a non-partisan 501c?  seriousstan   Dec-09-04 06:22 PM   #25 
  - Easy. They're not a 501c3.  hedda_foil   Dec-09-04 07:26 PM   #39 
     - But there are limits on the political campaign side that is very low  seriousstan   Dec-09-04 08:16 PM   #46 
        - But the PAC shoudln't be -- at least not like that.  Eloriel   Dec-10-04 03:36 PM   # 
  - Can we join the Move On Party?  Cronus Protagonist   Dec-09-04 06:22 PM   #26 
  - 'Bout damn time!  Dyedinthewoolliberal   Dec-09-04 06:32 PM   #27 
  - The pukes might have stolen the election  Downtown Hound   Dec-09-04 06:53 PM   #30 
  - MoveOn rocks, and the DNC "leadership" is a waste of space....  mike_c   Dec-09-04 07:10 PM   #31 
  - I agree that the time is right to take advantage of the movement  irkthesmirk   Dec-09-04 07:20 PM   #34 
  - BEAUTIFUL LETTER, irksome one!  PassingFair   Dec-09-04 07:42 PM   #43 
  - I agree with Move On Org!  Erika   Dec-09-04 07:21 PM   #35 
  - So, in effect, they've outlobbied the lobbyists with cash?  DS1   Dec-09-04 07:23 PM   #37 
  - The Democratic Party is dead  jmcgowanjm   Dec-09-04 07:24 PM   #38 
  - Aw shit, Eli,...YOU GO!!!!  Just Me   Dec-09-04 08:28 PM   #49 
  - With Dean and Moveon..  4dsc   Dec-09-04 08:35 PM   #52 
  - Yes..........As it should be!!!!  goforit   Dec-09-04 08:49 PM   #54 
  - And without them, many of us shall be moving on...  Voltaire99   Dec-09-04 08:53 PM   #58 
  - Here is what Howard Dean said on the same topic...  IndianaGreen   Dec-09-04 08:50 PM   #55 
  - If the Democratic Party can start raising money like Dean did but on a  hollowdweller   Dec-09-04 08:56 PM   #60 
  - I just realized something  SoiledEarthLink   Dec-09-04 09:05 PM   #61 
  - Actually my problem was...They own us?  Boosterman   Dec-09-04 09:07 PM   #62 
  - They aren't "aligned" with the Dem Party - and they have a separate PAC  Pachamama   Dec-10-04 05:15 PM   #86 
  - Purge Liebermann and all WAR LOVING DEMOCRATS!  Chicago Democrat   Dec-09-04 10:48 PM   #68 
  - KICK!  VolcanoJen   Dec-10-04 12:07 PM   #72 
  - Taking back our Democratic Party  CheshireCat   Dec-10-04 12:25 PM   #73 
  - Someone whack those motherfuckers with a clue-by-four  Psephos   Dec-10-04 02:03 PM   #75 
  - Whatever  Sideways   Dec-10-04 02:39 PM   #78 
  - clue-by-four indeed.  mb7588a   Dec-10-04 02:51 PM   #80 
  - The party is already split! As to a common cause, it's the war, stupid!  IndianaGreen   Dec-10-04 06:04 PM   #89 
  - Way I see it,  mb7588a   Dec-10-04 02:50 PM   #79 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-10-04 03:06 PM   #81 
  - Ed Shultz is railing on that right now on his radio show  Blue State Native   Dec-10-04 03:36 PM   #82 
  - I thought it was quite good  CatholicEdHead   Dec-10-04 09:11 PM   #97 
  - It's about time.  lcbart   Dec-10-04 04:34 PM   #84 
  - McAuliffe Out - Dean In!  SOS   Dec-10-04 04:59 PM   #85 
  - Yes! McAuliffe Out - Dean In!  Chicago Democrat   Dec-10-04 09:30 PM   #99 
  - About time.  frustrated_lefty   Dec-10-04 07:59 PM   #96 

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