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Mon Dec-06-04 02:31 PM
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| 89. i had to come back to this topic.... |
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imagine you are trying to get back to fallujah and are stopped at the checkpoint for identification....
you may or may not have a home to go back to, you probably don't have power or water, you have no job unless the military assigns you to a forced work detail, you may or may not have the means to feed yourself or your family,
but the marines are there with millions of dollars worth of high tech eyeball scanners and dna tests and mag strip id cards.
how's that make you feel on your return to fallujah. think these guys really care about bringing you freedom? with a retina scan? hmmm...
Bush&Co, breeding insurgency one retina scan at a time.
there's so many things wrong with this story. i need a drink.
(p.s... i've been to about a dozen facilities that have fingerprint or retina recognition systems and have only seen one that was operational. the rest were torn apart and never worked. i know its being used widely, but i've got my doubts that marines at some dusty checkpoint are going to be able to get a whole lot of use out of it)
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| -Boston Globe: You'll Need Your Retina Scanned to Re-enter Fallujah |
spooked |
Dec-05-04 11:26 AM |
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wow! Who knew how technological one could make ... |
leftchick |
Dec-05-04 11:28 AM |
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"FREEDOM"? "DEMOCRACY"? "LIBERATION"? MY ASS!!! |
Just Me |
Dec-05-04 08:36 PM |
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How do you write 666 on a person's retina? |
The Zanti Regent |
Dec-06-04 05:05 AM |
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There is a big difference here. |
roughandtumble |
Dec-05-04 11:29 AM |
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Right--US Soldiers better be watching their backs in Fallujah |
spooked |
Dec-05-04 11:33 AM |
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INSURGENTS = NATIONALIST FIGHTING OCCUPIERS - WTFU! |
clem_c_rock |
Dec-05-04 08:36 PM |
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Welcome to DU clem_c_rock good post |
LibertyorDeath |
Dec-06-04 02:10 PM |
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Welcome clem_c_rock |
Ima |
Dec-06-04 02:19 PM |
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Agreed |
_NorCal_D_ |
Dec-06-04 10:40 PM |
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You really do NOT get the advances of humanity since the Nazis,... |
Just Me |
Dec-05-04 08:54 PM |
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disgusting... |
rndmprsn |
Dec-05-04 11:30 AM |
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Thats assuming you havent had your eyes already shot/blown out |
Endangered Specie |
Dec-05-04 11:34 AM |
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i think Gott mit uns is the same idea.. n/t |
President Kerry |
Dec-05-04 02:07 PM |
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Oh yeah, that'll work. |
bemildred |
Dec-05-04 11:36 AM |
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this is revolting...yellow stars to retina scans |
maddezmom |
Dec-05-04 11:39 AM |
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that's what i was thinking too. |
NuttyFluffers |
Dec-05-04 08:51 PM |
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My goodness-not even Nazis had this technology at the time. |
lizzy |
Dec-05-04 11:40 AM |
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duped |
SoCalDem |
Dec-05-04 03:01 PM |
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Gee..why not just tattoo numbers on their foreheads? |
SoCalDem |
Dec-05-04 03:01 PM |
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Gee, like 666. That would be easy to remember |
HeeBGBz |
Dec-05-04 05:41 PM |
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No, but... |
Flying Coyote |
Dec-06-04 11:12 AM |
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Well, give them some credit. They also measured the length of |
NCevilDUer |
Dec-06-04 01:35 PM |
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Fallujah a "model city" -- Bush's plan for America n/t |
Barrett808 |
Dec-05-04 11:49 AM |
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that's just what I thought |
InvisibleBallots |
Dec-05-04 11:51 AM |
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I am sure Bush voters will volunteer. |
lizzy |
Dec-05-04 11:54 AM |
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me too - |
Warren Stupidity |
Dec-05-04 01:58 PM |
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You're always on it Barrett808! |
Barkley |
Dec-07-04 03:01 AM |
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What's next? |
MADem |
Dec-05-04 11:58 AM |
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Would we be up in arms? |
Lorien |
Dec-05-04 12:09 PM |
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they're already doing that here |
Nordic |
Dec-05-04 01:31 PM |
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RFID. thats the first thing I thought of |
wordout |
Dec-05-04 02:50 PM |
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Black market badges? Hmmm, big bucks... |
signmike |
Dec-05-04 08:53 PM |
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The insurgents aren't stupid. Iraq is the best educatined Arab country. |
Massacure |
Dec-05-04 11:59 AM |
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What is the international equivalent of the ACLU? |
goodhue |
Dec-05-04 12:26 PM |
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Warsaw Ghetto/ Falluja ----spot on comparison |
Chicago Democrat |
Dec-05-04 12:42 PM |
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Isn't a retina scan SOP for entering the US now? |
lebkuchen |
Dec-05-04 01:13 PM |
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Deep cavity searches are next |
0007 |
Dec-05-04 09:00 PM |
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No, it is fingerprinting |
psychopomp |
Dec-07-04 12:18 PM |
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I just Emailed Move On... |
Hard Attack |
Dec-05-04 03:01 PM |
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**THIS IS DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND FRONT PAGE MATERIAL |
Hard Attack |
Dec-05-04 03:02 PM |
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I am speechless |
ninkasi |
Dec-05-04 03:22 PM |
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Demand all you will, it's MONEY and only MONEY that will change the course |
NIGHT TRIPPER |
Dec-05-04 03:36 PM |
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exactly, twist their wallets 'til they collapse on their knees. |
NuttyFluffers |
Dec-05-04 08:57 PM |
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Blatant racism... The US govt is admitting that they cannot |
SoCalDem |
Dec-05-04 03:45 PM |
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"citizen processing centers"? *shiver* |
noshenanigans |
Dec-05-04 04:27 PM |
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Well that should quell the Hitler / Bush comparisons, no? n/t |
Eloriel |
Dec-05-04 04:55 PM |
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President Hitler is really rolling now. |
frank frankly |
Dec-05-04 05:29 PM |
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Where is our "Line in the Sand"???? |
ilovenicepeople |
Dec-05-04 09:19 PM |
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Baaaaaad Eloriel! Baaad |
Tinoire |
Dec-05-04 08:28 PM |
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Wouldn't numerical tattoos be cheaper? n/t |
NNN0LHI |
Dec-05-04 04:57 PM |
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Goebells V 2.0 really likes all the gadgetry. |
frank frankly |
Dec-05-04 05:30 PM |
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Iraqi Voter Registration ends soon? |
Noaell |
Dec-05-04 05:25 PM |
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This article leaves out the details |
slaveplanet |
Dec-05-04 05:35 PM |
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patrol the sector with mini robots |
wordout |
Dec-06-04 12:18 AM |
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Another shining example of liberation, Bush-style. n/t |
Darranar |
Dec-05-04 05:41 PM |
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Disgusting. / US orders Iraqi Red Crescent out of Fallujah |
Tinoire |
Dec-05-04 06:30 PM |
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They used the same excuse to keep them out during the criminal assault... |
Darranar |
Dec-05-04 06:43 PM |
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I think your second assumption |
Tinoire |
Dec-05-04 08:03 PM |
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it seems that fallujah may be a preview of what is in store for mainland |
flordehinojos |
Dec-05-04 07:30 PM |
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Why the FUCK are we paying for retina scans now? |
tjdee |
Dec-05-04 07:57 PM |
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Absolutely outragious |
arikara |
Dec-05-04 08:30 PM |
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How about the folks that no longer have retinas? |
GoddessOfGuinness |
Dec-05-04 08:33 PM |
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"authorized to use deadly force against those breaking the rules" |
Minstrel Boy |
Dec-05-04 09:35 PM |
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totally insane |
kineneb |
Dec-05-04 10:13 PM |
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The system should be ready... |
PsychoDad |
Dec-05-04 10:28 PM |
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I am one big goose bump after reading that. |
Bouncy Ball |
Dec-06-04 12:24 AM |
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It gets more unbelievable every day |
daleo |
Dec-06-04 12:32 AM |
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Yep, they do |
Flying Coyote |
Dec-06-04 02:40 PM |
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Al-jazz |
burrowowl |
Dec-06-04 01:39 AM |
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Warsaw Ghetto Uprising comes to mind for me too |
spooked |
Dec-06-04 05:03 AM |
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Great Photo! |
Barkley |
Dec-07-04 02:53 AM |
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So we can get a retina scanner in the desert... |
rainbow4321 |
Dec-06-04 01:49 AM |
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Yeah, I like that one! |
Megahurtz |
Dec-07-04 11:40 AM |
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Slight difference |
Viktor Runeberg |
Dec-06-04 10:56 AM |
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Generally I would agree... |
crimnos |
Dec-06-04 11:04 AM |
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And what have Baathist's done to America that they deserved to be killed? |
NNN0LHI |
Dec-06-04 10:46 PM |
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I have a problem with the history of the Baath party in Iraq |
crimnos |
Dec-07-04 11:49 AM |
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Thank you for answering. I have a problem with the history of Republicans |
NNN0LHI |
Dec-07-04 12:03 PM |
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Hah...good reply. I agree. :) n/t |
crimnos |
Dec-07-04 12:06 PM |
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nanking is a much more apt analogy |
IllegalCombatant |
Dec-06-04 11:22 AM |
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"If the city is turned into a prison colony, that's about appropriate." |
Minstrel Boy |
Dec-06-04 11:23 AM |
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The other big difference: Nazis didn't have the internet |
daleo |
Dec-06-04 12:22 PM |
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How many Fallujans do you know--personally. |
Bridget Burke |
Dec-06-04 01:23 PM |
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Whoa. |
Bouncy Ball |
Dec-06-04 01:23 PM |
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Are you fucking insane? |
NCevilDUer |
Dec-06-04 01:48 PM |
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oh, cool....genocide sounds so much BETTER if you call them evil first |
Lerkfish |
Dec-06-04 01:53 PM |
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"I usually consider myself a liberal" |
LibertyorDeath |
Dec-06-04 02:47 PM |
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"long-time Baathist stronghold" |
JohnLocke |
Dec-06-04 07:45 PM |
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"eviler"? Thanks George |
Forkboy |
Dec-07-04 03:46 AM |
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Innocent until proven guilty |
dave420 |
Dec-07-04 06:03 AM |
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Not to worry! |
democratic wing |
Dec-06-04 11:50 AM |
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Nobody will protect you. |
neweurope |
Dec-06-04 12:56 PM |
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Your first quote was from me |
Bouncy Ball |
Dec-06-04 01:26 PM |
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20th vs. 21st century propaganda... |
Petrodollar Warfare |
Dec-06-04 04:21 PM |
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Frankfurt Area :) |
neweurope |
Dec-06-04 04:52 PM |
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Anybody else thinking Warsaw Ghetto...... No. |
Poppyseedman |
Dec-06-04 01:12 PM |
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I'm moved nearly to tears |
neweurope |
Dec-06-04 01:33 PM |
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Let's deal with the facts |
Poppyseedman |
Dec-06-04 01:50 PM |
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Sorry, with all due politeness, this is a load of crap. |
neweurope |
Dec-06-04 02:10 PM |
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Welcome to DU! |
CAcyclist |
Dec-06-04 05:05 PM |
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Hello Neweurope and adios Poppy ! :D !!! n/t |
Rochambeau |
Dec-06-04 10:25 PM |
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Facts? |
Flying Coyote |
Dec-06-04 02:28 PM |
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a few more facts poppy - think you've eaten too many seeds |
peacebird |
Dec-06-04 02:49 PM |
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You're missing the point |
dave420 |
Dec-07-04 06:16 AM |
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Ghetto, maybe not; Warsaw, definitely yes. |
HeartLikeAWheel |
Dec-06-04 07:42 PM |
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Feeding? Feeding who? |
dave420 |
Dec-07-04 06:12 AM |
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Sound a bit like South Africa eh? |
ExclamationPoint |
Dec-06-04 01:23 PM |
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And those returnees, who were not insurgents, |
NCevilDUer |
Dec-06-04 01:30 PM |
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who wants to bet that the company making the scan technology |
Blue_Tires |
Dec-06-04 01:31 PM |
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just what i was thinking........ |
ucmike |
Dec-06-04 02:17 PM |
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i had to come back to this topic.... |
ucmike |
Dec-06-04 02:31 PM |
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Oh hell, just bring back Saddam and be done with it. n/t |
grumpy old fart |
Dec-06-04 02:39 PM |
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It's EXACTLY like the Warsaw Ghetto |
Guarionex |
Dec-06-04 05:00 PM |
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And Orwell roles in his grave again. |
UCLA Dem |
Dec-06-04 05:36 PM |
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*Sigh* Bush co. thinks 1984 is an instruction manual |
Democrat Dragon |
Dec-06-04 10:09 PM |
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More people need to read 1984. |
renaissanceguy |
Dec-07-04 12:34 PM |
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Why go back? |
juliagoolia |
Dec-07-04 12:45 AM |
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Yeah, but you're not poor |
dave420 |
Dec-07-04 06:32 AM |
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I don't think even Sharon has tried this one? |
Barkley |
Dec-07-04 02:50 AM |
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It is, but then... |
dave420 |
Dec-07-04 06:39 AM |
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Forced labor is against a lot of ceonventions |
RuleofLaw |
Dec-07-04 12:32 PM |
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Its only a matter of time before we're retina scanned and issued badges |
Barkley |
Dec-07-04 02:57 AM |
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Gattaca, coming to a Blue State near you. |
gjb |
Dec-07-04 07:48 PM |
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Ya know, I could see Saddam Hussein really digging this kind of plan |
0rganism |
Dec-07-04 03:33 AM |
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Is this legal? |
Amaya |
Dec-07-04 01:35 PM |
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