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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:19 PM
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11. Indeed - it is a national level statement that local congregations
may or may not take on (or so I understood it to be in the early nineties). The local church I joined (when I officially jumped UCC) did indeed lose a few long-time members over that strong of a statement. But, to their credit (the main family that left), they stayed for awhile and wrestled with it... after quite some time the wife, and many times with the wife (who had the issue) speaking at length with the minister... the wife finally found she couldn't reconcile her feelings with this - but she really worked at it. That was 12 years ago... The Congregation lost a few - and those lost gave deep thought (and I would bet due to struggling - were less than receptive to the crass cavalier treatment of the issue by the far religious political right have shifted somewhat) to the issue.

Is there any Christian demonination who has pushed the issue at the national level (eg church wide adoption - even if the choice to adopt is congregational) - thus making it safe for local congretations to do this? Just heard on NPR on Monday of a United Methodist minister facing sanctions for coming out (sexuality and a committed relationship) in Philly... now she, and the congregation (who appeared to be accepting) face a long and intimidating battle.
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  - I am roaring with laughter! It implies exclusion by other groups?  yardwork   Dec-01-04 04:18 PM   #1 
  - No "advocacy advertising"?  LSparkle   Dec-01-04 04:18 PM   #2 
  - Here's a link to the ad  Rose Siding   Dec-01-04 04:50 PM   #3 
  - Another article  Rebelry   Dec-01-04 05:01 PM   #4 
  - It is a completely inoffensive advertisement  Logansquare   Dec-01-04 06:00 PM   #5 
  - Compassion, tolerance and inclusivity is "bad",...  Just Me   Dec-02-04 10:58 AM   #17 
  - you are sadly mistaken  magdalena   Dec-02-04 09:29 PM   #26 
  - So,  wryter2000   Dec-01-04 06:46 PM   #6 
  - NBC's MTP had Falwell on last Sunday  Rose Siding   Dec-01-04 09:29 PM   #13 
  - Why is this surprising to anyone?  Behind the Aegis   Dec-01-04 06:51 PM   #7 
  - Hhmmmmm  Ima   Dec-01-04 07:04 PM   #8 
  - Makes me proud  salin   Dec-01-04 07:06 PM   #9 
  - "open and affirming"  Joy Anne   Dec-01-04 07:54 PM   #10 
  - Indeed - it is a national level statement that local congregations  salin   Dec-01-04 08:19 PM   #11 
  - The UCC church I attended as a kid was one of the first to vote  noonwitch   Dec-02-04 12:03 PM   #19 
  - Our church voted to  gaia_gardener   Dec-02-04 10:52 AM   #16 
     - thanks for the open and affirming commentary  Joy Anne   Dec-02-04 08:03 PM   #22 
  - I'm proud as well  magdalena   Dec-02-04 09:14 PM   #25 
  - Contact them  faithfull   Dec-01-04 08:22 PM   #12 
  - They will play that Swiftboat shit in a heart-beat though.  Dr Fate   Dec-01-04 09:30 PM   #14 
  - No, THEY DID SHOW THE ANTI-KERRY MOCKUMENTARY  zbdent   Dec-02-04 10:40 AM   #15 
     - I know they did. Its cuz they are so Liberal I guess.  Dr Fate   Dec-02-04 12:29 PM   #20 
  - What a cool church UCC is.  GOPBasher   Dec-02-04 11:47 AM   #18 
  - Kick!  VolcanoJen   Dec-02-04 12:34 PM   #21 
  - Here's the BEAUTY of it all!!  proudbluestater   Dec-02-04 08:13 PM   #23 
  - Excellent point - I had the same thought last night when I saw it  Patiod   Dec-03-04 12:27 PM   #28 
  -  hippywife   Dec-02-04 08:18 PM   #24 
  - If the whole story about Falwell's connection to Rev. Moon  eagler   Dec-02-04 09:47 PM   #27 
  - That's it, I'm going to stat attending a UCC church  gorbal   Dec-03-04 12:36 PM   #29 
  - I suspect that I'll get flamed for this.  skypilot   Dec-03-04 01:11 PM   #30 
     - Good point!  gorbal   Dec-03-04 05:36 PM   #31 
     - other churches can't demand equal time. they'd have to pay for ads too  sonicx   Dec-03-04 05:56 PM   #32 

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