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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 09:11 PM
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18. I think Lieberman's position is out of sync. IMHO, Dean = Clinton on I/P.
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 09:13 PM by w4rma
Statement of Principles on the Middle East Peace Process

Howard Dean is committed to achieving a negotiated, comprehensive, and just peace between Palestinians and Israelis and remains optimistic about the chances for peace. The greatest asset in that effort is that majorities of both Palestinians and Israelis accept a two-state solution which would guarantee security, sovereignty and dignity.

Recent developments in the region have created a new sense of opportunity. Any steps that lead away from violence and toward peace need to be encouraged and assisted. Continuing this progress will require the full engagement of the United States at the highest level. US disengagement from the process during much of the Bush Administration has been unacceptable. No other country but the United States has the credibility necessary to facilitate negotiations and to mediate between the parties. Yet, in the end, only the Palestinians and the Israelis themselves can make and keep the peace and work out the specifics of a lasting agreement. Peace cannot be imposed by outside parties.

The basic framework for peace between the Israelis and Palestinians is a two state solution - a Jewish state of Israel living side by side in peace and security with an independent, demilitarized Palestinian state. The best approach to achieving lasting peace is a comprehensive one, providing for fully normalized relations, peace, and security as part of an overall negotiated settlement between Israel and the Arab states.

To get there, the Palestinian Authority will have to fight terrorism and violence on a consistent basis to create the conditions necessary for a viable peace process. The Israeli government will have to work to improve the living conditions of the Palestinian people and ultimately will have to remove a number of existing settlements. These issues and others will all be elements of a final agreement negotiated by the parties.

Through it all, the United States will maintain its historic special relationship with the state of Israel, providing a guarantee of its long-term defense and security. And the United States will have to take responsibility with its international partners for helping the Palestinians establish a middle-class democratic society in which women fully participate in economic and political decision-making. The international community must support these economic reconstruction efforts which are essential to the long-term success of any agreement between the parties.
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  -Lieberman Questions Dean on Middle East Nambe  Sep-07-03 05:40 PM   #0 
  - Likudnick Joe show his true colors  jos   Sep-07-03 05:42 PM   #1 
  - The I/P issue is the only one that has  Flying_Pig   Sep-07-03 08:56 PM   #12 
  - Why  saskatoon   Sep-08-03 01:48 PM   #55 
  - Lieberman is not the Senator from Likud!  IndianaGreen   Sep-07-03 09:39 PM   #22 
  - Sigh  FauxNewsBlues   Sep-07-03 05:44 PM   #2 
  - good take FNB  wtmusic   Sep-07-03 05:52 PM   #3 
  - "It's not a jewish thing, it's a jewish hawk thing."  cprise   Sep-07-03 10:21 PM   #29 
  - My sentiments exactly.  TheStranger   Sep-08-03 01:15 PM   #49 
  - Can't stand that man  saskatoon   Sep-08-03 01:45 PM   #54 
  - Lieberman just shit on Presidents Carter and Clinton  IndianaGreen   Sep-07-03 06:14 PM   #4 
  - Hey, it worked once.  Atlant   Sep-07-03 06:51 PM   #10 
  - I Take Pleasure In Saying...  tsipple   Sep-07-03 08:30 PM   #11 
  - I loved and still love president Carter; he was not perfect but he was  schultzee   Sep-07-03 09:10 PM   #17 
  - Hey how can you give Iraq 87 billion and Isreal only 8 bill  bahrbearian   Sep-07-03 09:36 PM   #21 
  - Good for Dean!  Sean Reynolds   Sep-07-03 06:30 PM   #5 
  - Every time Holy Joe opens his word hole...  joeybee12   Sep-07-03 06:32 PM   #6 
  - Maybe, but what do we get out of supporting Isreal?  RaRa   Sep-07-03 09:03 PM   #13 
  - The destabilization and control of the middle east.  ozone_man   Sep-08-03 03:18 PM   #65 
  - Yea, his head in in a place that is not in our best interest but  schultzee   Sep-07-03 09:13 PM   #19 
  - Tentative support for Israel here  ScotTissue   Sep-07-03 06:36 PM   #7 
  - " reciprocal statement to be made on the other side."  CWebster   Sep-08-03 06:12 AM   #36 
  - the main reason the  rchsod   Sep-07-03 06:39 PM   #8 
  - Good to know where Dean stands on Israel  truthseeker1   Sep-07-03 06:48 PM   #9 
  - I think Lieberman's position is out of sync. IMHO, Dean = Clinton on I/P.  w4rma   Sep-07-03 09:11 PM   #18 
  - Clinton said he would pick up a gun and die for Israel  StandWatie   Sep-08-03 12:30 PM   #42 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-08-03 01:14 PM   #48 
     - Holy Shit.  TheStranger   Sep-08-03 01:20 PM   #50 
        - Hawkeye  saskatoon   Sep-08-03 01:58 PM   #56 
        - Actually  HawkeyeX   Sep-08-03 03:22 PM   #66 
        - even Afrikanner's made "Transkei"  StandWatie   Sep-08-03 02:45 PM   #62 
  - Where are all the DUers who claim Dean is as pro-Israel as Lieberman?  arcos   Sep-07-03 09:06 PM   #14 
  - Get out Joe! You don't represent real Americans anymore join  schultzee   Sep-07-03 09:09 PM   #15 
  - This is anti-climactic for me.  PartyPooper   Sep-07-03 09:09 PM   #16 
  - Lieberman has adopted the ME views of Gingrich and DeLay  IndianaGreen   Sep-07-03 09:22 PM   #20 
  - Whatever  TheYellowDog   Sep-08-03 03:31 PM   #67 
  - I have been anti-Biden since Clarence Thomas's nomination  LiberalFighter   Sep-07-03 11:50 PM   #32 
  - Kuccinich really says what needs to be done to SAVE America,  schultzee   Sep-07-03 09:40 PM   #23 
  - Excuse typos....I type too fast .  schultzee   Sep-07-03 09:43 PM   #24 
  - I'm a Kerry or Clark supporter and I'd like to smash this asshole  Starpass   Sep-07-03 10:00 PM   #25 
  - I for one side with Israel over Hamas  dolstein   Sep-07-03 10:00 PM   #26 
  - Nice strawman  Forkboy   Sep-07-03 10:29 PM   #30 
  - Since when is terrorism a straw man?  dolstein   Sep-08-03 12:46 AM   #33 
     - Since you chose to ignore the thrust of this article  IndianaGreen   Sep-08-03 01:19 AM   #34 
     - Bullshit -- we treated both sides fairly in the Ireland conflict  dolstein   Sep-08-03 12:36 PM   #44 
        - Northern Ireland or Ireland?  StandWatie   Sep-08-03 12:40 PM   #45 
           - Northern Ireland  dolstein   Sep-08-03 01:31 PM   #52 
              - no coma  StandWatie   Sep-08-03 02:37 PM   #61 
     - Honestly,  TheStranger   Sep-08-03 01:23 PM   #51 
     - It's a strawman argument because  jos   Sep-08-03 02:23 PM   #60 
  - Actually, the fact is  tinnypriv   Sep-08-03 02:44 AM   #35 
  - And I, for two, will join you  Isere   Sep-08-03 09:49 AM   #37 
  - I don't care anymore one way or another  StandWatie   Sep-08-03 12:35 PM   #43 
  - Democracy in Mideast  dutchdemocrat   Sep-08-03 10:14 AM   #38 
  - Iran had a democracy in 1953, but the USA pushed for a monarchy  Larkspur   Sep-08-03 11:50 AM   #40 
  - One phrase that you used is correct  saskatoon   Sep-08-03 02:10 PM   #57 
  - Turn it around  saskatoon   Sep-08-03 02:21 PM   #59 
  - Duplicate post, please delete  dolstein   Sep-07-03 10:00 PM   #27 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-03 10:00 PM   #28 
  - JL can funk off...  WheresWaldo   Sep-07-03 10:40 PM   #31 
  - I agree with Dean, not Lieberman  Larkspur   Sep-08-03 11:41 AM   #39 
  - First he was bashed by some Greens for some quote out of  janx   Sep-08-03 12:23 PM   #41 
  - I tend to be neutral in the I/P debates...  Sagan   Sep-08-03 12:43 PM   #46 
  - Why couldn't Joe have been this feisty in the 2000 VP debate?  JaneQPublic   Sep-08-03 12:48 PM   #47 
  - Anyone who followed the 2000 election knows the answer to that one  dolstein   Sep-08-03 01:41 PM   #53 
     - um, not everyone who comes to a different conclusion than you  MisterP   Sep-08-03 03:17 PM   #64 
  - EVERYONE should read this , especially LIEberman  Mari333   Sep-08-03 02:12 PM   #58 
  - How did this guy (Israeli Joe) get to vote in the U.S. Senate?  Porcupine   Sep-08-03 02:48 PM   #63 

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