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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 02:43 PM Original message |
Old Money in the South |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. I'm okay with blacks being ticked off at people that owned slaves |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. No, but the descendants who have benefited from slave labor |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. so the greatgrandchildren of the slave owners are responsible |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. I'm sorry you don't get it. |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. no they are not |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
45. Yeah, you're right. I should have said that |
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haymakeragain (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. You're being obtuse. |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. I'm not being obtuse |
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haymakeragain (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. You are talking only of historic injustice, which is fine. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
24. If the family of the criminal received the ill-gotten gains - |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. because it wasn't illegal gains |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. I was responding to your question about criminals. |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. I didn't specify the criminal act to stealing |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. you said: |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 06:50 AM Response to Reply #25 |
48. Hannah said "ill-gotten" |
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BigDaddy44 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. Descendants are benefitting from slave labor? |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Where have we disagreed? |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. That's why I support reparations n/t |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 08:20 AM Response to Reply #30 |
51. How do you envision it being carried out?... |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. What about those who stand firmly on the shoulders... |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. so I'm supposed to hate Germans children and future generations |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Germany was decimated far beyond the American South... |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
33. And Germans would actually have more reason to be perversely proud... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
26. Nothing to do with "hate". Recognition of the facts of the matter. n/t |
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slor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 09:26 AM Response to Reply #7 |
56. Who is talking about hate? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Post 7 was. The post I responded to. n/t |
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slor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:12 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. That was the same post... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. oops, my misreading. n/t |
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katsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Sure. |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Poverty is not limited to one racial group |
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katsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Who said anything about throwing rocks at anyone? n/t |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
4. and the arrogance of the old plantation owners |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Yep. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
31. A dirty little secret about many of those scions of GA aristocracy... |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Another dirty little secret |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
37. and the dervishes in rags |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. My husband would now |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. But you felt called to draw attention to the incident |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 06:48 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. I'm sorry. Please forgive me. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. You didn't upset me & I wasn't angry. |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I didn't think you needed spiritual advice |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #42 |
54. You're picking fights with the wrong person. |
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SCantiGOP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
9. I agree with you, rateyes |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. They're still having the sweet-16 Debutante Cotillions. |
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haymakeragain (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
16. Is your intention to rile up |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Let me put it this way.. |
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haymakeragain (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. What about my premise? Do you think that angle could be played |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. I don't think it will be an issue. nt |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
27. I question the concept of "old money" in the state that began as a penal colony... |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
32. I think it would be interesting to know how many plantations are still owned by the descendants |
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trof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Your hunch would be right. |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. The smarter Big Mules... |
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trof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #40 |
58. If you know about 'The Big Mules', then you know. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. That may be true. But I think you'll find the descendants of the |
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Wcross (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
34. Slavery was not limited to the southern states. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 08:13 AM Response to Reply #34 |
50. Not only that, but slave traders were not limited to the Southern states either. nt |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
41. If you keep pointing out the racism and its consequences, they'll just brand you a racist. n/t |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
46. Sometimes you just have to move on |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 08:36 AM Response to Reply #46 |
55. Move on from what? |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 07:04 AM Response to Original message |
49. Valid points, here's another |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. Good post**nm |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
52. I believe your state was founded by white indentured servants |
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better tomorrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
53. I live in Florida and the homes of the rich are made from |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
57. Nope, It's No Wonder at All |
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WilmywoodNCparalegal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
63. I want money from the Barbarian tribes that invaded Italy |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:32 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. I want the money that the Romans made |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:34 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I want that too, and I want money because the heerosexuals have made money by denying |
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