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In reply to the discussion: Porn & Pop Culture: A deadly Combination [View all]CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)22. I have articles, too.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/jul/02/gail-dines-pornography
http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/08/07/does-porn-reduce-violence-against-women-evidence-says-otherwise/
I read yours. Will you read these? The second link actually addresses the Scientific American article you linked to.
Violence against women is more than just rape. It's living in a culture where you're afraid to go out alone at night, where you re-think the clothes you have on lest someone considers you provocative, where you don't contribute to male conversations because they would ridicule you simply because you're not one of them, where radio hosts get to call you a slut because you want access to affordable birth control.
It's living in a culture where your body is public domain - men on the street are allowed to say any disgusting thing they want to you. This is not a freedom of speech issue, this is about what is socially acceptable. It's perfectly acceptable for a group of men to shout out, "Nice rack!" to a woman they don't even know.
Living in a culture that dehumanizes & objectifies women is violence against women. The message is that we are not equal to men, that we are subservient to them. Yet we are a species that requires two to survive. A planet full of women with a few well stocked sperm banks would fare better at surviving than a planet full of men with well stocked fertilized eggs. How dare men suggest that we are not equal?
As for your comparison between how women fare in Saudi Arabia vs. Sweden, I'm sure if the Saudi's would just start watching porn they would treat their women better!
http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/08/07/does-porn-reduce-violence-against-women-evidence-says-otherwise/
I read yours. Will you read these? The second link actually addresses the Scientific American article you linked to.
Violence against women is more than just rape. It's living in a culture where you're afraid to go out alone at night, where you re-think the clothes you have on lest someone considers you provocative, where you don't contribute to male conversations because they would ridicule you simply because you're not one of them, where radio hosts get to call you a slut because you want access to affordable birth control.
It's living in a culture where your body is public domain - men on the street are allowed to say any disgusting thing they want to you. This is not a freedom of speech issue, this is about what is socially acceptable. It's perfectly acceptable for a group of men to shout out, "Nice rack!" to a woman they don't even know.
Living in a culture that dehumanizes & objectifies women is violence against women. The message is that we are not equal to men, that we are subservient to them. Yet we are a species that requires two to survive. A planet full of women with a few well stocked sperm banks would fare better at surviving than a planet full of men with well stocked fertilized eggs. How dare men suggest that we are not equal?
As for your comparison between how women fare in Saudi Arabia vs. Sweden, I'm sure if the Saudi's would just start watching porn they would treat their women better!
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And yet some people still choose to deliberately make false claims of correlation...
TheWraith
Jul 2012
#102
I think it could have an effect on influenceing under age child sexual abusers though.
JNathanK
Jul 2012
#130
not only that article that was very informative, videos of what happens behind the scene of porn
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#8
Most men who cheat, abuse women, divorce their wives, etc watch porn
4th law of robotics
Jul 2012
#4
i understand men who are pro porn have a strong NEED to insist, demand, repeat that ALL men
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#5
"the simple fact, with easy access to porn, it has done damage to relationships and marriages. "
4th law of robotics
Jul 2012
#6
google. i have been shown by pro porn people, regardless of the number of links, studies and facts
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#7
backatcha.... prove you really are not interested in facts and do nothing to educate yourself. nt
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#11
again, proving you really are not interested in facts and reality or the subject at hand. nt
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#13
i know the game. i am not playing. anyone that is actually interested would become informed.
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#17
the romance novels you talk about are prior to 80's. you would be incorrect about the genre today.
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#138
and look how popular they are. pretty resoundly rejected and called out for it.
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#146
and this is why there are posters i never converse with on this subject, anymore. nor discuss it on
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#150
87% of men who molest children view porn, 87% of average men view porn
4th law of robotics
Jul 2012
#16
i absolutely recognized that the woman writing the article is from the community. why i thought
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#32
i had a list of police officers quoted in various newspapers that rape was downgraded in their city
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#37
i the name of honesty, i see you are making it clear i did not post any of this crap
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#40
amazing. truly, amazing. good way to argue the issues. i give you a site from a woman within your
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#43
For you to say that Kitty is the only person calling out the rape and abuse in the bdsm scene
redqueen
Jul 2012
#82
i dont know redqueen. when someone presents me with info people are being harmed, even women,
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#105
took that stat out and put in another. there is plenty. you can keep pretending everything is
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#44
It's really sad to think of how many women are told they're just being jealous or controlling.
redqueen
Jul 2012
#25
I want jerking off to be quicker and easier... more than I’m jerking off to might be being raped
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#45
"4th law" Thanks for your good efforts to enlighten the original poster to the process of
ladjf
Jul 2012
#57
Yeah, it's pretty sad what a religious-like adherence to some ideology
4th law of robotics
Jul 2012
#62
Well, we are actually discussing the fundamental problem with our political system, which is that
ladjf
Jul 2012
#98
That is either satire or the writer is just a judgemental prick, is there a name of the author?
snooper2
Jul 2012
#70
look, when you are given sites that have cuts from porn films where women are being abused and you
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#79
right, it's an opinion. you are entitled to yours others are just as entitled to theirs.
boston bean
Jul 2012
#101
The loudest porn defenders are the ones suffering from the largest degree of cognitive dissonance.
MadrasT
Jul 2012
#124
i think you have it right on. the struggle and fight to be the three monkeys. no hear, see, speak.
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#126
If sex isn't particularly sacred though, I wonder why there's so much regret over it.
JNathanK
Jul 2012
#134