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In reply to the discussion: Thoughts on “Sextremism” [View all]Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)56. I have little but contempt for women who strip and bare themselves to get out whatever message
they think they're getting out, at least in Western culture. And I don't give a shit if people don't like that, so spare us both the lecture, because I don't give even the tiniest fuck if you call me a frigid prude, or whatever the insult du jour is.
When, and only when, they start to use older women, complete with gray hair, saggy breasts, fat rolls, cellulite, and stretch marks, will I possibly give them any credence. Until then, it's just 'show the boys my titties time'. Look at me - I'm so radical! Bah.
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thinking about it though, it seems they came with 3rd wave at a time we felt we could take ownership
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#5
This is the same discussion that arises at Pride events over 'assless chaps' and drag.
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#14
i think it is a chicken shit, lazy ass argument to throw out "prude" when discussions like this come
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#15
The men who say that at Pride events are prudes. That's who I was talking about.
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#19
you used it to compare to women speaking about this type demonstration BNW. it is not like we are
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#21
one is allowed, one is not. one is cheered, one is condemmend. madonna/whore. nt
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#27
Don't you bring it up for discussion when you bring up other's use of their sexuality?
octothorpe
Apr 2013
#59
METHOD. discussing the METHOD. see how ineffective this is. cannot even get people to think beyond
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#60
Isn't the method and the actual protest kinda intertwined in the case of Amina?
octothorpe
Apr 2013
#67
no one is telling these women what they can or cannot do. METHOD. discussing how we see the effect
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#70
I don't think you or anyone on this board are telling her and others what they can or cannot do
octothorpe
Apr 2013
#72
Take Chuck Hagle's attack on Mr Homel for being seen with men dressed as nuns
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#32
there is no argument with this post. adn what is ignored or missed, continually. i am arguing a
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#34
I see no attempt at controlling how others express themselves to further a collective goal
LanternWaste
Apr 2013
#98
Agree...It's just someone's value judgement, someone's "opinion", hardly a "fact". n/t
whathehell
Apr 2013
#29
As long as it remains just that, a respectful statement of one's own views and choices
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#71
feminism thru individualism. it is dying. we are seeing how ineffective it is. there really is
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#74
So we on DU are "shimmering" toward objectifying conservatives and religious people
redqueen
Apr 2013
#75
I have read that FEMEN isn't solely made up of women with porn-compliant bodies...
redqueen
Apr 2013
#4
so they say. but, even if that is true then it just validates the argument that this style of
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#8
it is a small group of 20. i was not impressed a year ago. but what turned me completely off was
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#9
They didn't...I wear makeup...It's non-negotiable and I remember getting a dirty look at a feminist
whathehell
Apr 2013
#31
phyllis chesler refers to make-up as war paint. I cannot wear it, nothing political, just a severe
niyad
Apr 2013
#40
yes. i even love the sound. lol. and i get a real sashe going back and forth. almost a dance.
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#62
I love heels, always have, always will. they are good for so many things. and, like you, I wear
niyad
Apr 2013
#93
I am so glad I did not see that particular email--my response would have been rather nasty.
niyad
Apr 2013
#92
I like that, as well. people forget that there was a time men wore powdered wigs and lots of
niyad
Apr 2013
#90
yes they did. and men still wear heels and higher heels but we all pretend it is not
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#97
ok girls... now show me you tits. says a male friend to young women on FB, demeaning these girls
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#52
There was at least one other thread reporting the story, that didn't have the word
CrispyQ
Apr 2013
#86
the whole company shifted to men and the man gaze. tell your woman what you want her to wear.
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#87
goddess forfend that we should EVER do anything to offend the sensibilities of the patriarchy.
niyad
Apr 2013
#13
I think about the fact that feminists have been told from the beginning not to be shrill, to be soft
niyad
Apr 2013
#23
own businesses. be on board. and when a company shows sexism... publically reject, quit, vilify.
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#25
I was there in the sixties, and seventies, and. . I am still here, still doing the same things. as
niyad
Apr 2013
#35
I agree with the OP in its characterization of FEMEN but I see value in the FEMEN movement.
Squinch
Apr 2013
#33
then really, by LOUDLY pointing it out here at du, i am the greater supporter, lol, than those that
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#36
But YOU are what is referred to in the article as a "classical feminist." So am I.
Squinch
Apr 2013
#39
this is what i was thinking in the shower. they flash and every fuckin one else is doing the fuckin
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#41
ya, see. i watch it continually being used as a tool against women, and in disrespect of women that
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#53
flynt recently made a statement about women in porn. telling them NOT to go into porn,
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#42
yup. this is true. as his defenders INSIST it is all good for the woman never able to even hear,
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#46
I have little but contempt for women who strip and bare themselves to get out whatever message
Sheldon Cooper
Apr 2013
#56
no one will fuckin go there. there is so much dishonesty thru out this whole thing, that it is
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#57
then, when men use it as a weapon against women here, i would think the least we would do is
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#83