History of Feminism

iverglas

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43. I do too

Thu Apr 26, 2012, 02:17 PM

Apr 2012

I just wanted to add:

Worst case - if you've ever encountered drain cleaner used as torture, this is SO FAR BEYOND REVOLTING THERE ARE NO WORDS.

I've encountered it being drunk by a young woman who was raped by multiple members of the military in her country. Of course, that young woman died, so I encountered it second-hand, from the sister of a young woman who had also been raped by a dozen soldiers but who could not speak it aloud, because if she "admitted" it to anyone, probably even herself, she would have had to do the same.

And we've all heard of the drain cleaner method of abortion ...

Women and drain cleaner isn't an image that would come to my mind when I think "sex".

But I guess that's what the commercial set out to fix ...

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OK, seriously. I've seen this Liquid Plumber ad THREE TIMES and it is INCREASINGLY pissing me off. [View all] PassingFair Apr 2012 OP

OMG, sex sells! Who knew? Scuba Apr 2012 #1

it isnt about "sex sells". nt seabeyond Apr 2012 #3

This is totally over the top. PassingFair Apr 2012 #4

i sent them a letter reminding who they are marketing to. seabeyond Apr 2012 #7

pornification. yup. last night, eye glass commercial, the "naughty librarian" seabeyond Apr 2012 #2

i tell you though, seabeyond Apr 2012 #5

When I saw that ad I couldn't decide at first whether The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2012 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author obxhead Apr 2012 #8

have we? i dont see that we have. keep your "we" and oppose the normalization of porn seabeyond Apr 2012 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author obxhead Apr 2012 #13

no. i am pretty sure you wont "get all outraged" seabeyond Apr 2012 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author obxhead Apr 2012 #17

this is the History of Feminism (protected) group iverglas Apr 2012 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author obxhead Apr 2012 #18

I think the outrage is not about today's "silly commercial". MadrasT Apr 2012 #19

There are lots of discussions at this site that I'm sure you consider equally unimportant. redqueen Apr 2012 #20

But then again, did you see those plumbers????? (kidding, kidding)..n/t monmouth Apr 2012 #9

lol seabeyond Apr 2012 #12

Good commercial Meiko Apr 2012 #10

ah, but then you would be the man, thinking up a commercial that would do it for you seabeyond Apr 2012 #14

Please note that youre in a protected group. redqueen Apr 2012 #21

Dont forget that the protected group includes Third Wave feminists who are sex positive. stevenleser Apr 2012 #22

steven.... i read blog after blog after blog of young women talk about this issue seabeyond Apr 2012 #23

My first thoughts about your reply is, boy did second wavers do a disservice to feminism with stevenleser Apr 2012 #29

A commercial which commodifies sexuality in order to make money redqueen Apr 2012 #33

If the worst about what you just said is true, it still has no relation to feminism. stevenleser Apr 2012 #35

not one woman has to defend her sexuality in this forum.... ever again. we are done. especially to seabeyond Apr 2012 #37

You already laughed at another of my posts here, hence my retort. redqueen Apr 2012 #44

so, you are an expert on "second wavers ... positions on sex" Scout Apr 2012 #36

Serious feminists have dropped that meaningless term. redqueen Apr 2012 #26

but our male "feminists" LOVE seabeyond Apr 2012 #27

Spot on, redqueen. n/t MadrasT Apr 2012 #28

Translation, only feminists who agree with you are the truly serious ones. Gotcha. stevenleser Apr 2012 #30

No. Read more carefully. redqueen Apr 2012 #31

LOL, thank you for reminding me that you equate this commercial with porn and prostitution. stevenleser Apr 2012 #38

If you honestly somehow got all that redqueen Apr 2012 #42

you are bringing in the same shit into this forum seabeyond Apr 2012 #34

You are attacking the philosophy of 1/2 of the protected group. So, no. nt stevenleser Apr 2012 #40

so, in this protected group, you continue posts insulting the women. you ignore us asking you to seabeyond Apr 2012 #41

I insult no one. I criticize viewpoints and it is a legitimate argument within feminism among women stevenleser Apr 2012 #45

"you'll forgive me I am sure for laughing" is juet honest crticism, is it? redqueen Apr 2012 #47

when you use sex positive you are saying others are sex negative seabeyond Apr 2012 #48

"when you use sex positive you are saying others are sex negative" CrispyQ Apr 2012 #76

Ooh! Ooh! I have a guess! redqueen Apr 2012 #46

1/2 the protected group? really? you know this how? Scout Apr 2012 #54

You know the message I get from this and other "WOW" product ads? TheMadMonk Apr 2012 #32

and to connect that to this group ... ;) iverglas Apr 2012 #39

One class of products. I could have picked car care (aimed at blokes)... TheMadMonk Apr 2012 #49

actually the OP picked the class of products iverglas Apr 2012 #51

And most importantly, to keep the $$$$ flowing into Wall St. nt redqueen Apr 2012 #50

Sad, pathetic disruptor. BlueIris Apr 2012 #62

I'm amazed at how many opinions I can have at once. saras Apr 2012 #24

i LOVE your post seabeyond Apr 2012 #25

I do too iverglas Apr 2012 #43

Not just sex. Group sex. With people you don't know! PassingFair Apr 2012 #52

"Just what us chicks like!" you know it is cause porn says so seabeyond Apr 2012 #53

If I want porn, I'll go look for porn. I don't like it showing up in commercial breaks on network TV PassingFair Apr 2012 #55

You missed one. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #60

that is very true, and true of much crap marketed to women iverglas Apr 2012 #63

I must have missed you saying that Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #64

when I get around to rerenting the apartment that was my office iverglas Apr 2012 #65

Yes, or turn off the water to the toilet at the source, ie the little silver knob Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #66

I have one of each iverglas Apr 2012 #67

I watch so little tv that I'd never seen this ad before... hlthe2b Apr 2012 #56

IIRC, there have been a couple advertising studies... laconicsax Apr 2012 #57

I have a couple of thoughts. MadrasT Apr 2012 #58

i bought the product, and often, lol. plumbing old. seabeyond Apr 2012 #59

This: CrispyQ Apr 2012 #77

Not coincidentally, that is the criteria used to determine which ads aren't allowed redqueen Apr 2012 #78

I am not a savvy shopper, but there is this broom/mop type of thing CrispyQ Apr 2012 #80

Women support so many things that are hateful towards women. redqueen Apr 2012 #81

Incredibly stupid ad, and completely mis-targeted. MineralMan Apr 2012 #61

This is my issue with just about everything that Texasgal Apr 2012 #68

more society sexualizes Women, the less we get treated equally seabeyond Apr 2012 #70

Why is that point so hard for so many to grasp? redqueen Apr 2012 #71

studies, test, reality..... all state it unequivocally, yet, we pretend otherwise. seabeyond Apr 2012 #72

Oh yes, I know that first hand... redqueen Apr 2012 #73

people HAVE to validate their choices within themselves. even if it means telling self a story. seabeyond Apr 2012 #74

Just this morning MadrasT Apr 2012 #75

They see women making an attempt to look nice and think it's some kind of an invitation. redqueen Apr 2012 #79

Damn. I'm not certain I have half the courage she has right now, CrispyQ Apr 2012 #83

I'm not either. redqueen Apr 2012 #84

studies say women dress for women. i say, women dress to look the best they can seabeyond Apr 2012 #82

Slate's "XX Factor" blogger loves it. redqueen Apr 2012 #69