2016 Postmortem

morningfog

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27. The problem for the PACs and Mitt are that Obama and Mitt are known.

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:22 PM

Sep 2012

The PACs are more effective at tearing down a relatively unknown. Obama is very well known, now. He has been the president for almost 4 years. Mitt is known too, which is bad for him, because he has carry and builds his unfavorables. He just isn't likable and there is nothing the PACs can do to change that.

The citizen united media buys can have some effect, but this election will show that their influence is not as dominant as feared.

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Some more interesting tidbits from Nate Silver's 538 blog....added in EV totals [View all] NRaleighLiberal Sep 2012 OP

WOW !! russspeakeasy Sep 2012 #1

We's got us sum wuck t'do here in Nuth Caolina struggle4progress Sep 2012 #2

I'll bet North Carolina goes up once newer polls come out n/t Marsala Sep 2012 #3

Yup, NC goes blue Monday. speedoo Sep 2012 #4

Like president Obama said " It says more about you than me " orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #5

That's nuts... that would be a huge landslide for Obama. budkin Sep 2012 #6

Mitt Romney is going to wish he could do as well as Mondale Scootaloo Sep 2012 #51

Why are you surprised? Obama 347 Romney 191 Ian62 Sep 2012 #7

Possibly wildly optimistic. longship Sep 2012 #13

You didn't have time to read the info on the blogs Ian62 Sep 2012 #15

On MTP today, Romney came out and said he would appoint SC justices who coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #49

All the polls are (very) slowly moving in Obama's direction all the time Ian62 Sep 2012 #19

What % of the white vote do Obama & Romney each have? TroyD Sep 2012 #8

Yes!!! Illinois is 100 percent!!11 greatauntoftriplets Sep 2012 #9

I would suggest a voter suppression education campaign in abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #10

Somebody please tabulate the IL thru FL electoral votes here. longship Sep 2012 #11

Electoral-Vote.com abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #12

That is precisely NOT what I asked for. longship Sep 2012 #16

I gave you what you asked for abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #18

I apologize. longship Sep 2012 #21

just returned to this and edited my OP with more info - should be helpful for you! NRaleighLiberal Sep 2012 #24

Wow mythology Sep 2012 #44

Man, you have issues beyond shitty bandwidth. Webster Green Sep 2012 #53

NC is 15 electoral college votes Ian62 Sep 2012 #14

It's a little hard for me to believe with the citizen's united media blitz and the press mucifer Sep 2012 #17

I'm thinking that too landolfi Sep 2012 #20

+1. We gotta hope for the best but plan for the worst. nt SunSeeker Sep 2012 #22

I actually think they may be better - let the DNC bounce settle in, then the debates. NRaleighLiberal Sep 2012 #23

The problem for the PACs and Mitt are that Obama and Mitt are known. morningfog Sep 2012 #27

Kicking because I did a bit of data addition to the OP and some number crunching NRaleighLiberal Sep 2012 #25

The Krotch Bros have not yet unleashed the dogs of war. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #26

They can only go so dirty. There isn't much of an audience left to be influenced by morningfog Sep 2012 #28

they've been as dirty as can be in NC, to no real advantage at this point! NRaleighLiberal Sep 2012 #29

I do too... CoffeeCat Sep 2012 #32

'People think George Bush Sr. was dumb' TroyD Sep 2012 #39

Oops! I meant Jr! CoffeeCat Sep 2012 #41

This is not a horse race. This is going to be an Obama landslide. The only question is craigmatic Sep 2012 #30

Exactly! tavalon Sep 2012 #43

And can you image if the media were journalist Iliyah Sep 2012 #31

A "realistic path?" Atman Sep 2012 #33

maybe a "legal" path? NRaleighLiberal Sep 2012 #34

Happy to R&K longship Sep 2012 #35

Good points all. being an optimist tonight, I guess! NRaleighLiberal Sep 2012 #38

Thank you very much for your update!!!! longship Sep 2012 #40

If you're too lazy to write out in words EV at the first usage I'm not going to read your post. xtraxritical Sep 2012 #36

LOL (I think?!) NRaleighLiberal Sep 2012 #37

No - I mean it, and you would not anwer either? What a bunch of ... xtraxritical Sep 2012 #45

anwer? tallahasseedem Sep 2012 #46

wow. electoral votes. NRaleighLiberal Sep 2012 #47

Good Diary! Thanks. november3rd Sep 2012 #42

Thank you for the information! tallahasseedem Sep 2012 #48

Despite Corbett's and Turzai's best efforts, the voter ID bullshit isn't going to swing PA. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #50

We are not giving Ohio to Mittens! BootinUp Sep 2012 #52

this race is so far over, Mitt would be stupid not to know graham4anything Sep 2012 #54

Love this OP angrychair Sep 2012 #55