2016 Postmortem

TheProgressive

(1,656 posts) Fri Nov 20, 2015, 11:24 PM Nov 2015

Clinton not attending the BET criminal justice forum? Maybe she really doesn't care about blacks.. [View all]

Could you imagine the posts here if Sanders did not attend?

Actions always speak louder than words.

Maybe PoC should rethink their devotion to Clinton...

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Clinton *not* attending the BET criminal justice forum? Maybe she really doesn't care about blacks.. [View all] TheProgressive Nov 2015 OP

Perhaps we'll hear a lecture, I mean clarification soon as to why... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #1

I wrote this thread because... TheProgressive Nov 2015 #4

Indeed... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #6

Hillary is TOO BUSY fundraising..... Segami Nov 2015 #94

Who knows? snpsmom Nov 2015 #2

A couple weeks back I heard Joy Reid (sp?) say perceived electability HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #3

It would be great if all people looked at issues and policies... TheProgressive Nov 2015 #5

The presidency is a popularity contest, don't cha know? (sarcasm) notadmblnd Nov 2015 #202

I was clued in snpsmom Nov 2015 #7

What did she mean by 'need to get woke up'? HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #8

That Hillary snpsmom Nov 2015 #11

involvement would beat the hell out of blind voting due to race or sex n/t 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #105

She's correct. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #165

That electability is of importance to poc would make a lot of jwirr Nov 2015 #46

Bernie automatically gets almost all of the same voters in the general that Hillary would. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #166

"maybe PoC should rethink their devotion to Clinton" KittyWampus Nov 2015 #9

Absolutely no offense was meant... TheProgressive Nov 2015 #12

I'd like to say I am surprised, but the horse has long left that barn. MADem Nov 2015 #27

Tempted to alert on you snpsmom Nov 2015 #48

For what, precisely? MADem Nov 2015 #49

Sorry you don't think much of me snpsmom Nov 2015 #51

I've got anecdotes too. MADem Nov 2015 #52

I absolutely didn't mean snpsmom Nov 2015 #55

I've found that the "Some of my best friends are (fill in the blank)" thing never goes over well. MADem Nov 2015 #68

Bullshit. Kentonio Nov 2015 #128

Someone's a bit angry, I see. MADem Nov 2015 #137

I was angry Kentonio Nov 2015 #138

Yeah? Well, I think it's "unfair" when a Great White Hope tries to drag in MADem Nov 2015 #144

As I said.. Kentonio Nov 2015 #147

And as I said, invoking an unknown black authority figure to teach black voters who don't MADem Nov 2015 #150

This isnt the AA forum Kentonio Nov 2015 #152

Who said it was? MADem Nov 2015 #157

Why do you keep repeating that they were addressing black DU'ers? Kentonio Nov 2015 #161

This thread deals with POC, and the subthread addresses 'black voters.' MADem Nov 2015 #179

I'm very sorry it sounded that way snpsmom Nov 2015 #172

snpsmom, we're totally cool. MADem Nov 2015 #178

I do get your overall point Kentonio Nov 2015 #186

No, I was not too quick. MADem Nov 2015 #190

So in other words you were responding to the past transgressions of other posters. Kentonio Nov 2015 #193

If you read the archives here, you'll learn a lot--especially since the contested MADem Nov 2015 #195

I can understand why seeing it happen over and over would make you hyper alert to it. Kentonio Nov 2015 #196

Just ignore it UglyGreed Nov 2015 #194

She just held a criminal justice forum today in South Carolina. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #10

I'm interested in watching it. lovemydog Nov 2015 #97

Maybe she meets face to face with us blacks all the time. bravenak Nov 2015 #13

And maybe you know none of that is true. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #14

She was in a room full of blacks when BLM interrupted her. See? bravenak Nov 2015 #16

Ah yes, she has some black friends. That is nice. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #19

Yes. It is. bravenak Nov 2015 #20

But is she really their friend or is she just pretending to be? nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #21

Well, she has been around them. Not off in a place where they are not very present. bravenak Nov 2015 #23

Well, some people are willing to hang out with those they disagree with for Live and Learn Nov 2015 #26

Some ignore whole groups until they need them bravenak Nov 2015 #29

Some don't pay any attention to those that were there and later accuse them of not being there. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #32

Becaus they were far away sometimes. And they might vote in favor of mass incarceration bravenak Nov 2015 #35

I don't think you are still seeing them clearly. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #41

They do not care about folks like me. Their real people are the important ones. We are just pawns. bravenak Nov 2015 #44

But we are real people and some really do care. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #77

I see many just care about what they want. They do not care about what WE want. bravenak Nov 2015 #79

I see a lot of really selfish people too but turning your back on those that do care Live and Learn Nov 2015 #82

Well, after the immense number of personal attacks, I feel otherized. bravenak Nov 2015 #86

Perhaps a walk would do you good. I am joining a walk to stop homelessness this morning. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #110

I walk all the time. That is not the problem. Pretending that there is nothing wrong with that bravenak Nov 2015 #113

Working to change things for the better is much better than dwelling on past wrongs. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #135

Current wrongs. bravenak Nov 2015 #136

Depends what one means by current I guess. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #139

Within the last day, week, month. bravenak Nov 2015 #141

Anything but the current moment is the past. Will someone hurt you in the future? Live and Learn Nov 2015 #142

I do plenty. No more advice, please. It is starting to seem condescending. bravenak Nov 2015 #143

Advice is condescending? So you know everything already? Live and Learn Nov 2015 #146

Is your point that those representing the state of Vermont are unfit to govern America.. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #58

After this morning should you and I still speak to each other? Or will it get you in a pickle? bravenak Nov 2015 #69

I really honestly do not know to what you are referring. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #70

Oh Good. bravenak Nov 2015 #71

But to the original point, is it possible for a politician from a racially homogeneous state JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #72

It could be if they build relationships with a broad coalition while there. bravenak Nov 2015 #73

I doubt a broad coalition is possible when one's state is 97% non-PoC. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #78

I told everybody time and time again why we are getting turned OFF. bravenak Nov 2015 #81

I heard a story that it was because of how he talks that doesn't come across well with PoC JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #85

How he talks has a bit to do with it. bravenak Nov 2015 #87

I try not to judge people based on the vile things one finds on the internet JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #93

People should vote based on what they want to vote based on. bravenak Nov 2015 #109

no, she has rules of what can and can't be said to poc 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #117

You can say whatever you want. Just do not expect them to vote your way. bravenak Nov 2015 #127

moving away? 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #112

Why should I have posts in favor of him? bravenak Nov 2015 #114

so why try to act like you are moving away from him? 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #118

I left this summer. Glad to be gone. bravenak Nov 2015 #119

I know she has never supported him Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #188

she's been preparing for this run for 8 years 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #107

So they only reason he would have to 'be around us' is an election where he needs us? bravenak Nov 2015 #115

no, it's Hillary that is using you 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #120

How would I know Bernie ain't like that? bravenak Nov 2015 #123

you do know a congressman or senator spend karynnj Nov 2015 #132

So why is he having so much trouble getting endorsements from them? bravenak Nov 2015 #133

He is not establishment JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #197

Maybe.... TheProgressive Nov 2015 #15

Enough black folks who are loyal Dems to win. bravenak Nov 2015 #17

Aren't you in Alaska? TheProgressive Nov 2015 #22

What does that have to do with anything? bravenak Nov 2015 #24

Just curious that you know all about the mindset in the South... TheProgressive Nov 2015 #25

Half my family was born down south. My daddy was from Alabama. bravenak Nov 2015 #28

I have literally no idea how you've managed to keep calm in this thread Godhumor Nov 2015 #42

Very difficult task. bravenak Nov 2015 #45

Keep laughing. lovemydog Nov 2015 #101

I Have decided that there is something about me that forces these questions. bravenak Nov 2015 #111

ROFL. lovemydog Nov 2015 #121

I think they are way in love with me. bravenak Nov 2015 #126

Yes indeed ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #184

"It's like a bunch of people at a party trying to touch your hair." Number23 Nov 2015 #213

OMG 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #122

Well, I have never been surprised once here. So, whatevs. bravenak Nov 2015 #125

zomg!! lovemydog Nov 2015 #130

Right? ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #182

I know you see the irony here Bravenek ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #181

Yes. People seem not to know much about this place. bravenak Nov 2015 #210

Well all my family is from California... TheProgressive Nov 2015 #206

I was born in California too, so what? Not special. bravenak Nov 2015 #209

Are you saying that black people can't communicate with friends in other parts of the country? MADem Nov 2015 #31

That's what polls are for BainsBane Nov 2015 #39

Is that you talking or that the hidden post talking. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #37

That post was awesome bravenak Nov 2015 #43

We are not taking about the same hidden post. The one I am referring to clearly illustrates Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #50

Yes. Loved it. Meant it at the time too. Last month. bravenak Nov 2015 #53

You've no credibility. Much like Steve Leser. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #60

. bravenak Nov 2015 #64

I hope you live. And i hope you live your life as an honest agent. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #74

I said exactly what I was doing as I do it. bravenak Nov 2015 #75

Not what said at all in that hidden post. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #80

If any had asked I'd have told them too. bravenak Nov 2015 #84

Nup. I've got a hidden post that exposed your duplicative self. Whether it be playing him Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #89

That poster sat on that for a month. Nobody tricked anybody by being honest and telling their bravenak Nov 2015 #90

You sat that in his head. You hurt him. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #92

MANY HERE HURT ME. None care but want me to be the one to care. bravenak Nov 2015 #108

And here we see what it's really all about. Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #149

More insults and personal attacks. Thanks. bravenak Nov 2015 #155

What "it's" really all about"???? ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #183

Results are in :) Katashi_itto Nov 2015 #83

Thanks for posting the results. Shameful that 5 DUers voted to leave it alone! akbacchus_BC Nov 2015 #98

Depends on one's definition of both 'vile' and 'liked', I suppose. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #148

I am one of the five. I think the statement is accurate. Katashi_itto Nov 2015 #156

That's how I would have voted too Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #189

bazinga n/t 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #124

Facinating how you think you're an arbitrator of what is credible ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #187

I seem to recall her saying she'd only talk to white people from now on. bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #18

I'm pretty sure there was an 'if' in there. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #167

Yes, you are correct whathehell Nov 2015 #180

She sounded irritated, sarcastic... Ino Nov 2015 #215

Yes, I would say so.. whathehell Nov 2015 #219

Yeah, I just find it a weird offer to make. bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #205

Speaks volumes. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2015 #30

Both O'Malley and Sanders are attending and both have released comprehensive criminal justice askew Nov 2015 #33

She has an immigration reform policy on her website BainsBane Nov 2015 #36

That's not a platform. That's vague talking points. askew Nov 2015 #62

compared to Sanders it's a treatise BainsBane Nov 2015 #67

She said "illegal" and it has blown up on Latino for Bernie FB groups artislife Nov 2015 #56

She got a lot of heat for it from Latino groups and prominent Latinos on twitter as well. askew Nov 2015 #61

Good for him. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #170

On immigration, both Bernie and Hillary are target rich environments. askew Nov 2015 #198

Except that Bernie DIDN'T vote against 'immigration reform'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #199

He voted against comprehensive immigration reform in 2007 and he has spoken of askew Nov 2015 #208

Thank you for your concern. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #34

Um, she was at an HBCU today, speaking. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #38

Today we've had posts on women only voting for Clinton because she is a woman Godhumor Nov 2015 #40

I think that now that she is the "inevitable" nominee, she no longer feels the need to take Bernblu Nov 2015 #47

Why do some of you spend so much attacking Hillary instead of extolling your candidate? Beacool Nov 2015 #54

Who else are you going to vote for? ibegurpard Nov 2015 #63

They simply are unable to see their reflections in the mirror FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #191

ohhhhhhh... MrWendel Nov 2015 #57

well I'm a poc Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #59

That's what she (me) said bravenak Nov 2015 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #66

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #76

I will be glad when primary season is over and most of this needless intraparty sniping ceases. LonePirate Nov 2015 #88

wtf lovemydog Nov 2015 #91

LOL!! Number23 Nov 2015 #96

I'm always glad when I make you laugh my friend. lovemydog Nov 2015 #99

I laugh like that all the time!!! Especially at clueless white people!! Number23 Nov 2015 #100

Same. We need to start a webcast. lovemydog Nov 2015 #102

Starting with that abused and mistreated MLK quote. The one that betsuni said she Number23 Nov 2015 #106

Yeah. I have big laughs lovemydog Nov 2015 #116

p.s. I just served on a jury lovemydog Nov 2015 #131

Please!! bravenak Nov 2015 #134

Jury results: Denzil_DC Nov 2015 #145

I don't understand this JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #151

I'm not defending the alert, which I think was pointless, but I'll ask Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #171

Happens all the time at DU JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #174

Sorry, I can't see that thread. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #175

You GET it JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #176

I get a tiny bit of it. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #177

Are you seriously trying to suggest that I should be "banned" from DU for saying that I laugh Number23 Nov 2015 #214

No I'm not. If I was, I would have said it outright. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #216

White people have said far worse here and not gotten banned. Not even gotten hidden. Number23 Nov 2015 #217

Again, I'm not defending that alert. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #218

I bet this alert springs from the "Bravenak is a racist troll" school of DU "thought" around here Number23 Nov 2015 #212

I guess you are being facetious! Mrs. Clinton can't be everywhere at the same time! akbacchus_BC Nov 2015 #95

yep, Bernie would be accused of being racist over this. n/t 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #103

Probably am wrong, but what have the Democrats done for Blacks even akbacchus_BC Nov 2015 #104

Hi abc! lovemydog Nov 2015 #129

Not bloody much. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #173

I will never understand it AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #140

Another "PoC don't know what's good for them" thread. leftofcool Nov 2015 #153

It's incredible, isn't it? nt MADem Nov 2015 #158

I wonder if the people doing it realize it is racist Renew Deal Nov 2015 #160

Nope and most of them worship JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #164

Well you know leftofcool - JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #162

It just doesn't stop does it? leftofcool Nov 2015 #168

BET Criminal Justice Forum? Empowerer Nov 2015 #154

+ a million leftofcool Nov 2015 #169

The problem is Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #192

Nice race baiting Renew Deal Nov 2015 #159

Plus 100000 JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #163

I know why they do this. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #185

How so? TheProgressive Nov 2015 #203

Only if they come from black people. bravenak Nov 2015 #211

They are rethinking their support now that they are getting to know about Bernie. He has doubled sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #200

With zero help from the DWS and the Dems... TheProgressive Nov 2015 #204

Ya Think ? ruffburr Nov 2015 #201

Will any Hillary's super delegates attend? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #207