2016 Postmortem

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts) Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:42 PM Nov 2015

Another DU myth BUSTED: Hillary leading Sanders 53% to 32% with younger voters (+21 points) [View all]

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Clinton's leading within every demographic group on the Democratic side but it's closer with some segments of the electorate than others. She leads Sanders just 50/36 with white voters, but is up 70/13 with African Americans and 84/8 with Hispanics. She leads Sanders just 47/32 with men, but is up 69/22 with women. She leads Sanders just 53/32 with younger voters, but is up 66/17 with seniors. And she leads Sanders by just 17 with 'very liberal' voters at 56/39, but is up 34 with moderates at 56/22, and 49 points with 'somewhat liberal' voters at 72/23.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/11/gop-has-clear-top-4-clinton-dominant-for-dems-general-election-tight.html

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Another DU myth BUSTED: Hillary leading Sanders 53% to 32% with younger voters (+21 points) [View all] Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 OP

Numbers have a natural third-way bias. onehandle Nov 2015 #1

It's the MSM-science-logic conspiracy BainsBane Nov 2015 #6

I am not going to bother to read the responses. Benie supporters will reject them out of hand. olegramps Nov 2015 #47

This defines younger voters as 18-45 DemocraticWing Nov 2015 #2

18-45? frylock Nov 2015 #23

The CBS poll did that too Mnpaul Nov 2015 #92

Most 35 year olds are more in line with 25 year olds than 45 year olds as far as political views go. MillennialDem Nov 2015 #39

This one certainly is. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #70

Yep, I identify culturally more with my partner's niece (who is 16) then I do with her brothers MillennialDem Nov 2015 #71

For one, you don't assume the corporate media to be credible. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #79

Hehe. Indeed. What's the news? Haven't had cable or satellite in like 10 years. And I don't MillennialDem Nov 2015 #81

Actually, this shows that Bernie is winning! zappaman Nov 2015 #3

And in one high school class of 150 Senior Government Students, only 12 were registered to vote DhhD Nov 2015 #42

I think when we aren't limiting the conversation to high school students. I would wager that Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #75

lol treestar Nov 2015 #80

Fascinating! NurseJackie Nov 2015 #4

I learned yesterday that someone on the other upaloopa Nov 2015 #32

Now that really IS fascinating. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #35

Conducted via robocall, so landlines only and no rotation of candidates' names. n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #5

Clearly a conspiracy by the Fascist Oligarchy. nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #10

It's sloppy polling methodology, and perhaps why fivethirtyeight ranks PPP as a B-. n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #19

PPP was the most accurate pollster during the last presidential election cycle. Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #20

Then we had some shitty polling back then. Looks like we do now, too. n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #21

Only if you were Rove hoping Romney would win, poor things Hekate Nov 2015 #48

Yeah, Rove was let down by his pollsters. Obama wasn't. So there's a problem now? IDK. n/t freshwest Nov 2015 #88

Well a C is average ToxMarz Nov 2015 #38

And the pollster cited by Fox News yesterday is rated a B. winter is coming Nov 2015 #40

That scene where Rove thought Romney HAD to be winning was priceless! Hekate Nov 2015 #51

Wow, nothing is more convincing than a non-sequitur followed by a smilie. winter is coming Nov 2015 #56

FOX News strikes again. YMMV Hekate Nov 2015 #58

The same poll was later cited by The Hill. Better toss them under the bus, too. n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #61

I don't use busses, but YMMV. Hekate Nov 2015 #84

Any god damned port in a storm upaloopa Nov 2015 #33

I note you left out the term 'Millennials' AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #7

Bernie leads with millennials? Which poll are you looking at? nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #18

40 somethings are not Millennials AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #24

Above you said "I note you left out the term 'Millennials'...Which is the group he leads with" Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #28

It's what her supporters do AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #29

So you can't cite a poll showing him leading with millenials even though you said Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #30

IN fact Gen Xers AND Millinnials both reject all forms of right wingism. AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #41

Where's the poll showing Sanders leading Clinton among millennials? nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #46

There isn't one, but they're so cute when they insist there is Hekate Nov 2015 #53

Well Goblinmonger Nov 2015 #64

Any recent polls? You know...since the first debate, the Benghazi hearing and Biden dropped out? Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #66

Moving the goal posts much? Goblinmonger Nov 2015 #68

I never said there were no polls Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #69

So we're playing this cute little game of rhetorical passive aggression? Goblinmonger Nov 2015 #76

Here's one that came out yesterday AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #78

This is really good news! K&R! BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #8

Sad when splitting hairs = Best you can say for your candidate's bad poll #s.... Walk away Nov 2015 #12

You can use a creme rinse for split ends, you know Hekate Nov 2015 #54

I've been using Wen shampoo/cream rinse for years, and I haven't gotten any split ends BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #85

As long as you define "younger" as 26-45, with a landline. jeff47 Nov 2015 #9

What's up with that!? Cha Nov 2015 #11

When will polling catch up to the way society lives today? dragonfly301 Nov 2015 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author dragonfly301 Nov 2015 #14

This shows Sanders taking fifty states!!!!!!!!! NCTraveler Nov 2015 #15

KnR sheshe2 Nov 2015 #16

K & R Iliyah Nov 2015 #17

Another PPP poll coyote Nov 2015 #22

Denial is really getting bad now Gman Nov 2015 #25

Maybe they think Denial is a river in Egypt. olegramps Nov 2015 #45

It's the name of a mountain in Alaska. DFW Nov 2015 #55

A normal phase of grief. The first. Gman Nov 2015 #77

Yeah, there were a shitload of excuses. None of them were actually any good Number23 Nov 2015 #82

Mrs. Clinton are next president captainarizona Nov 2015 #26

We've already determined that HRC pays PPP for specific results Android3.14 Nov 2015 #27

we have? you forgot evidence to support this claim. nt msongs Nov 2015 #34

No correcttherecord paid PPP for a poll upaloopa Nov 2015 #36

It lets them feel better. Amimnoch Nov 2015 #37

Sources? Citations? links? You got nuttin' but the VRWC. Hekate Nov 2015 #86

Wonderful, enlightening revelation. Take note naysayers. oasis Nov 2015 #31

Honestly I don't really care all that much either way. I just want to flip the supreme court. That MillennialDem Nov 2015 #43

The future of SCOTUS depends on the 2016 vote. (eom) oasis Nov 2015 #52

cali-d, ppp polling = David Brock = Correct the Recore =Hillary superpac = total nonsense polling, litlbilly Nov 2015 #44

I don't think Corrupt the Record is the only group using PPP. winter is coming Nov 2015 #60

But Bernie SURGES Among . . . Gamecock Lefty Nov 2015 #49

My 13 year old grand daughter love One Direction. leftofcool Nov 2015 #62

How is he doing with those who want a lot of stuff for free? Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #50

The 1%? Not so good with them, I'm afraid. n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #67

.. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #72

Bullcrap Robbins Nov 2015 #57

coming at this as a Myth is silly PatrynXX Nov 2015 #59

First we need to check how much money that PPP polling outfit receives from the Clinton campaign. Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #63

she usually had a lead with young voters JI7 Nov 2015 #65

OLIGARCHY POLLS!!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #73

He's got this seniors vote newfie11 Nov 2015 #74

Enough with the bogus polls! Bernie's at 35% nationally, he's obvo doing way better with youngings. reformist2 Nov 2015 #83

Check the Scoreboard Bro! Alfresco Nov 2015 #87

K&R'd, but I hate the horse race thing. Americans are being denied real policy info. n/t freshwest Nov 2015 #89

The NBC poll has Sanders up 55-33 with those under 30 jfern Nov 2015 #90

Since younger voters are half women, this is to be expected. McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #91