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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:10 AM Nov 2015

So Campaign Hillary Is At It Again -- Pushing Another False Story About Super PACs [View all]

As some might remember, I called out how Clinton is using Rovian tactics to paint her opponent with her own flaws (see: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251817271 ). Well she's at it again with this latest Nurses Super PAC story. A couple of DUers here were the first to float this story, which as of today is now being picked up by some of the MSMS. This tells me there must be coordination among the campaign and sounds very similar to how the GOP used to float stories and phrases before making them go mainstream.

What's the story? "OH NOES BERNIE HAS A SUPER PAC!!!11!1"

Except that's note even close to the truth.

They are calling out that the National Nurses Union PAC (not a Super PAC) is has donated the Maximum of 10,000 (an FEC limit) to his campaign and that they have about $500,000 to spend (which they can no longer spend on his campaign).

The propagandists know this is not a Super PAC, a legal difference from a PAC. PACs have been around for a very long time, they are regulated, donations and transparent and monitored by the FEC. Super PACs are the results of Citizens United and they have no limit on the amount of money it can donate or spend for a candidate. And they also know that Clinton has a Super PAC called Priorities USA which has given her campaign millions (just check OpenSecrets).

Please don't buy the bullshit from Campaign Hillary. She played dirty in 2008 (see: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251758204 ). She's going to play dirty now. And she's going to use vast amounts of money from Wall Street to do it.

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The super PAC, is a non story. Agschmid Nov 2015 #1
Clinton had a coordinated effort to act against Obama in 2008 berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #2
Yes it's a campaign. Agschmid Nov 2015 #3
So not a conspiracy as you bullshittingly suggested berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #4
My suggestion is not bullshit. Agschmid Nov 2015 #7
That's not what you said before. berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #8
Me too. Agschmid Nov 2015 #10
Problem is that HRC is funded by the billionaires spending billions. They don't want to lose rhett o rick Nov 2015 #57
And some campaigns resort to sleazy tactics. It's vile & reprehensible. think Nov 2015 #5
Again how is this vile? Agschmid Nov 2015 #6
It's a lie; a sleazy attempt to deceive. winter is coming Nov 2015 #17
I don't think it's vile JackInGreen Nov 2015 #38
It's vile because the Clinton campaign is giving the Republicans A Simple Game Nov 2015 #49
Reason #1000 I do not trust Hillary Rodham Clinton. nc4bo Nov 2015 #9
And HOW they work matters, lying Rovian tactics use in a campaign tells a lot about the candiate. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #53
Agree. n/t cui bono Nov 2015 #60
One is crap. The second one has happened several times already. cui bono Nov 2015 #59
Hillary has the utmost faith that people retrowire Nov 2015 #11
The only person with faith in the stupidity of people here is the OP. DanTex Nov 2015 #15
there's definitely something you're not telling us. nt retrowire Nov 2015 #47
While I agree it is a super PAC that just endorsed Bernie passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #68
Sorry, but the Super PAC story is legit. DanTex Nov 2015 #12
has Bernie accepted the money? retrowire Nov 2015 #14
No candidate has accepted any money from SuperPACs because SuperPACs cannot donate DanTex Nov 2015 #16
Except Hillary and her campaign Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #18
LOL. You've just moved the goalposts to a different planet. DanTex Nov 2015 #21
Except Bernie does not have one Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #24
There's no such thing as "having" a SuperPAC. SuperPACs by definition are independent DanTex Nov 2015 #26
Some serious twisting there Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #29
The twisting is all on your end. DanTex Nov 2015 #31
Which one would that be? misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #42
Sorry, but DanTex really laid out the facts very nicely. Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #58
That's a pretty blatant accusation. You keeping the Name of that PAC secret for a reason? misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #43
Does this help Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #50
They have not given money to him directly. passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #70
interesting bigtree Nov 2015 #22
Thanks for the info so I didn't have to check. This OP had the usual Hortensis Nov 2015 #28
These expenditures would have been illegal if not for Citizens United. passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #69
Yes. NNU actually has two PACs. A "normal" PAC and a SuperPAC. DanTex Nov 2015 #71
you said: passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #74
Right here: DanTex Nov 2015 #75
That was from the article I can't find. passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #77
I posted the link to it. Here it is again. DanTex Nov 2015 #78
This is Bill working and he did the same thing in 2008 against Obama INdemo Nov 2015 #13
Don't believe it. Bill and Hillary have NO reason to be worried. On the other hand Laser102 Nov 2015 #20
Negative? ok whatever INdemo Nov 2015 #23
Oh jesus Robbins Nov 2015 #33
cult personality of Clinton?? O c'mon now your're down to stealing our memes? misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #37
But it doesn't make any sense for the HRCers to use it. ieoeja Nov 2015 #46
LOL Oh good lord! pretzel logic misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #48
Yes,the more hateful they got the greater her #'s & endorsements grew. misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #39
I think its the Hillary supporters that are posting the slime INdemo Nov 2015 #79
Hillary is Right! Gamecock Lefty Nov 2015 #19
Hillary is wrong. TM99 Nov 2015 #25
Technically, they have 2 months 12 days to right the ship misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #35
And the attack is based on a hit piece, blackspade Nov 2015 #27
Hey, cut 'em some slack. After all, they can't comment on policy. Scuba Nov 2015 #30
Same dirty sleazy tactics, different campaign. 99Forever Nov 2015 #32
Here a pac there a pac everywhere a pac pac, misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #34
Because it's her turn.... daleanime Nov 2015 #40
Legally, that entity is considered a super pac Gothmog Nov 2015 #36
So sad. Why do people support her? Android3.14 Nov 2015 #41
It boggles the mind, doesn't it? Lorien Nov 2015 #61
What foolishness--SEVEN DAYS in Vermont had this story a LONG WHILE ago. It's not evil DUers MADem Nov 2015 #44
Oh No! Sanders is under the thumb of big nursing! d_legendary1 Nov 2015 #55
Ha ha...! Actually, he's behaving just like a .... MADem Nov 2015 #56
Another DUer posted a link to Open Secrets which also called that group a Super PAC Number23 Nov 2015 #62
It's asinine--it only makes them look silly. MADem Nov 2015 #63
Absolutely. I have no problem with him taking this money and using it for his campaign Number23 Nov 2015 #64
Ha--I'm glad I was conducting some real-world business today!! nt MADem Nov 2015 #65
K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #45
K N R Faux pas Nov 2015 #51
Shows you how nervous they are when they have to lie so sblsatantly sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #52
Nothing New Here gordyfl Nov 2015 #54
Thank you. I figured it was a lie. So glad you debunked it. kath Nov 2015 #66
Duplicate post - deleted kath Nov 2015 #66
Hillary supporters will cost her the election... Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #72
Yes, a lot of people have noticed that false meme. To me it says they are sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #73
I don't buy anything at all from Campaign Hillary. n/t djean111 Nov 2015 #76
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