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2016 Postmortem

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sabrina 1

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Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:48 PM Nov 2015

Dear Bernie Supporters! Keep Up The Good Work. We Are Winning & Here's How We Know! [View all]

Last edited Wed Nov 18, 2015, 01:28 PM - Edit history (1)

Imagine you are the leadership of a Political Party.

You believe your candidate is a shoe-in.

You see no serious challenge to your candidate as you prepare to launch her/his campaign.

Why?

Mostly because NO ONE ELSE has the MONEY to launch a serious challenge to your incredibly well funded candidate!

And in YOUR world, MONEY TALKS!


With no serious challenge on the horizon you know your candidate can pretty much IGNORE what most polls show the PEOPLE WANT.

Things like a $15 minimum wage. Free college for students who are qualified. End student debt. Get rid of the draconian Bankruptcy laws, stop the Wars, cut the Pentagon budget, no TPP and the big one, GET THE MONEY OUT OF POLITICS etc etc

All s/he has to do is talk around the issues the people care about, sound better than the other guys, and the nomination is already in the bag.

You'll worry about the GE when you get there, move to the RIGHT if you have to, whatever it takes, but you will have the MONEY to put up a good fight against them. And the more of that MONEY you have, you think, the better the odds are you will win.

As everyone knows by now and YOU believe: MONEY TALKS! That's what it takes to win elections in the US now!



But then something you never anticipated happens!




Someone with virtually no name recognition, no Corporate funding, someone with a long, long people-oriented anti-corporate takeover of our government record on the VERY ISSUES THAT MATTER TO THE PEOPLE steps forward!

MOST OF ALL! He is running AGAINST CITIZENS UNITED. Not just TALKING about it, but refusing to take that money!

At first you think 'well, fine, he isn't going anywhere so we don't have to worry, he has NO MONEY, no one even KNOWS WHO HE IS! We'll keep an eye on him, but he has FUNNY HAIR and no one is going to take him SERIOUSLY!'


But then amazing thing begins to happen.

The people rally around this guy, they don't care about his hair, they LIKE the 'Optics'. They LOVE what he is saying!

Huge crowds come out to hear him speak and keep on GROWING.

The impossible, or so you thought, happens. HE DEFEATS YOUR 'inevitable candidate' in the polls in NH!

What to do? This is just AWFUL!! Money isn't talking the way it used to. In fact the PEOPLE HATE THAT MONEY!

But inside your DC bubble this makes no SENSE.

But it is HAPPENING. Your candidate's numbers start trending downwards everywhere the PEOPLE get to KNOW this candidate, after they hear his message! His numbers, amazingly, start trending UPWARDS!

Something has to be done!

Bernie supporters, THIS is how we KNOW how successful the people have been.

We know because the Super Pacs have been called in to disseminate SMEARS against the People's Candidate.

They include all the same old 'TALKING POINTS' that have their roots in the kind of smear campaigns that money buys whenever the status quo feels threatened.

They don't seem to be having much effect this time though.

Maybe the New Media has something to do with that, the quick responses calling out the smears before they take hold, whatever, the People's Candidate keeps on drawing the crowds, gaining more and more supporters, his base GROWING not DIMINISHING.

THEY have the Corp Media, whose lobbyists are working for THEIR candidate.

THEY have the CU facilitated Money flowing into the Super Pacs.

THEY have the Party Machine capable of pressuring people into early endorsements.

Fine, that's how politics in this country has worked.

AND they have the POWER to LIMIT the DEBATES and they have used it.

The very fact that they are AFRAID to let the PEOPLE hear him SHOWS how successful he is.


So rather than get MAD about all the ways in which they are trying to STOP the People's Candidates, we should see that all of the ways in which they ARE TRYING, is absolute proof of just how SCARED of him they are.

So DESPITE all the MONEY and POWER there are MORE OF US than there ARE OF THEM.

And the ONLY thing people have to do is keep on doing what they have been doing.

Because it's working.

We have a great candidate, one who truly does and has represented a majority of the people.

And the Establishment is scared to death of him!

They wouldn't be wasting all that time, money and effort on him if they weren't.

Take it for what it is, a sign that Bernie is truly resonating with the people who count the most, VOTERS!



Bernie on fire at Cleveland Rally this Past Weekend!

What Bernie's campaign has accomplished so far is UNPRECEDENTED! I admit that I did not think it was possible for him to get anywhere near where he is. Sometimes it good to be proven wrong.

Now I KNOW he can go all the way!

Go Bernie!
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This made me smile. Big K&R for the smile. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #1
No, Hillary is winning lewebley3 Nov 2015 #51
I agree. Clinton is winning in every single way. With damn near every single group. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #52
She is in the pockets of banks AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #69
I would much rather be in the pockets of labor unions than Wall Street anytime. Duckfan Nov 2015 #88
Sorry but labor unions endorse Hillary. MoonRiver Nov 2015 #99
Not all of them LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #129
True. Only the majority that have chosen to back a candidate do. Amimnoch Nov 2015 #221
Dame Hillary is for the People Plucketeer Nov 2015 #98
I have wondered why Democrats would side with the big money that is obviously trying rhett o rick Nov 2015 #144
^^this^^ Pharaoh Nov 2015 #177
If they did you'd have a good point. But.. they don't despite the election year hyperbole. Amimnoch Nov 2015 #222
Just like she was in 2008! I like that! I remember it well! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #61
Oh, crap! Was today Election Day?? Beartracks Nov 2015 #140
No, Hillary is whining. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #184
Sander's supporters are whining lewebley3 Nov 2015 #240
So you wanna play "I know you are but what am I"? BeanMusical Nov 2015 #241
No, but I won't let you get away with attacking Hillary lewebley3 Nov 2015 #242
I know you are but what am I? BeanMusical Nov 2015 #243
I do know what you are lewebley3 Nov 2015 #244
And what would that be? BeanMusical Nov 2015 #245
Great OP, Sabrina 1! peacebird Nov 2015 #2
Like stepping into sunshine whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #3
+1 great analogy! think Nov 2015 #6
K and R bigwillq Nov 2015 #4
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #5
Good post Dem2 Nov 2015 #7
If you can't broaden your support above 25% to 30% upaloopa Nov 2015 #8
If with all of the advantages your candidate has you lose over 30% of your support sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #10
Question for you DownriverDem Nov 2015 #25
Keep trying with these Loyalty Oaths aspirant Nov 2015 #30
99% of those that say they won't vote unless it's their darling, are Bernie supporters Sheepshank Nov 2015 #40
Weren't they called PUMAS? aspirant Nov 2015 #49
+1 BeanMusical Nov 2015 #185
If you are confident in your candidate's ability to win the GE you don't need to demand sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #63
I haven't asked anyone to take any loyalty oaths nt Sheepshank Nov 2015 #137
Persuasion is not a demand for a loyalty oath. Are you threatening... Nitram Nov 2015 #123
Tea and toast are a breakfast staple aspirant Nov 2015 #165
You don't seem to have much faith in your candidate! I KNOW my candidate will sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #191
Maybe he can win the GE Capn Sunshine Nov 2015 #199
Big problem for those who think he can't win the nomination. They are unaware of the groundswell sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #211
The Dem nominee is going to be the best candidate we've had the privilege to vote for sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #32
I get the feeling that many Bernie supporters will not vote for Hillary. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #60
Hillary supporters, of all people, demanding loyalty makes me laugh and laugh and laugh Scootaloo Nov 2015 #81
Scootaloo, enough with the straw man of loyalty oaths. It's so tiresome. Nitram Nov 2015 #102
The assumption that we won't, and the persistent browbeating tells another story. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #113
No, Scoot, you're misusing words and misrepresenting the facts. Nitram Nov 2015 #120
It's CONSTANT. It's BEEN constant since at least 2013, when people started talking about Warren Scootaloo Nov 2015 #124
I voted for McCain? You sound delirious. Nitram Nov 2015 #125
Very well said. All of your posts. Number23 Nov 2015 #198
How clever. You signed up in 2009 but have most of you posts in the last 90 days. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #146
Why are you harassing a new poster with your allegations, Rick? zappaman Nov 2015 #153
That is silly. Of course we will vote for our nominee. Sure, there are a few loud Bernie supporters tblue37 Nov 2015 #183
Sanders is flush BainsBane Nov 2015 #62
It's amazing isn't it? He's PROVING Hillary wrong wrt to have to take Corporate Money. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #68
Despite all that he's still losing. n/t MoonRiver Nov 2015 #101
Why would Democrats choose the side of the 1% and turn their backs on the 99%? rhett o rick Nov 2015 #148
I could not disagree with you more about HRC. MoonRiver Nov 2015 #150
But you won't be caught dead actually discussing any issues will you? As far as your vast majority, rhett o rick Nov 2015 #204
You assume a lot about someone you don't know. MoonRiver Nov 2015 #225
My criteria is that there are two sides in the class war. One side wants to help those in poverty, rhett o rick Nov 2015 #226
That is a very simplistic and, frankly, narrow minded analysis, imo. MoonRiver Nov 2015 #227
If helping those in need instead of helping corporations is "rigid ideology", then I am guilty. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #228
"My side" lol? MoonRiver Nov 2015 #229
You are choosing to support and lobby for a candidate that given the choice has openly choosen rhett o rick Nov 2015 #231
YOUR opinion. MoonRiver Nov 2015 #237
Well, according to you, Rick, maybe her supporters are trying to usher our country into fascism. zappaman Nov 2015 #155
Good question, but the more actual Democrats get to know Bernie, see Nina Turner eg sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #194
Yes but we will never win over the authoritarians that are willing to give up their freedoms and rhett o rick Nov 2015 #205
I wouldn't even try! Thare are far more ordinary people who are truly waking up to sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #232
Sadly some are desparately trying to hold on to the idea that the Emperor has clothes rhett o rick Nov 2015 #235
Why I'm not worried about those people is that they are very much in the minority sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #236
Guess you deleted your comment "Vote for HRC and let the country slide right into fascism" zappaman Nov 2015 #238
You wish! And we've only just begun. Hillary's been doing this for decades. Bernie just sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #192
That is the salient fact camp Clinton seems not to want to understand. eom Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #216
Not only that DownriverDem Nov 2015 #18
So a majority of people on this site are 'hate attackers' and 'Republicans' as far as you sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #34
stop making up shit...poster did not say "Majority" Sheepshank Nov 2015 #42
Poster came into this thread and personally ATTACKED Bernie supporters. Called them 'haters' and sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #45
Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Nov 2015 #176
Broad Brush Ned_Devine Nov 2015 #39
Yep! Good comment. Duval Nov 2015 #86
You've been here for 58 posts, and you can tell everyone is hate attackers? Fuddnik Nov 2015 #83
Yep, and with the old Bernie supporter' talking point too! Hilarious, they must think WE are asleep sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #195
Democrats oppose the Citizens United decision. floriduck Nov 2015 #96
What about folks who AREN'T the base. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #29
Like here in NY. I have helped previously non-voters to sign up as Dems in a state where they made sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #35
Came out of rehearsal last night here in Upstate. Vehicle next to me had a Bernie sticker. Bohunk68 Nov 2015 #224
Grass roots and the optics of these huge crowds aspirant Nov 2015 #9
Delegates not crowds DownriverDem Nov 2015 #15
Hills forced the primary to the very end, aspirant Nov 2015 #22
Not a joke DownriverDem Nov 2015 #33
Good, then write-in Elizabeth Warren for the GE aspirant Nov 2015 #38
+1000000 SammyWinstonJack Nov 2015 #131
You are accusing a long time Dem of being a Repub? That is how you advocate for your candidate? sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #50
"racking up" the supers is a virtually meaningless exercise restorefreedom Nov 2015 #66
Absolutely - she is forcing endorsements and collecting jwirr Nov 2015 #79
yup. smoke and mirrors. nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #85
Why do YOU act like your enemy, attacking fellow democrats. Nitram Nov 2015 #110
You support her because she's a woman? dflprincess Nov 2015 #187
You are aware that "super" delegates was a ploy the DNC came up with years ago dflprincess Nov 2015 #189
She's running the same campaign she ran last time. And if you think Bernie doesn't know what sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #197
She forced the primary to the very end? What? George II Nov 2015 #116
She can't really win delegates until the caucuses and primaries start mythology Nov 2015 #23
There are other Delegates DownriverDem Nov 2015 #31
What do you mean - there are other delegates? When we jwirr Nov 2015 #91
I don't think he/she understands the primary process. hedda_foil Nov 2015 #209
I agree. jwirr Nov 2015 #230
She's running the same campaign SHE ran in 2008. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #36
She is working on super delegates and they have in the past jwirr Nov 2015 #72
Hillary is running the same primary campaign that Hillary ran in 2008. frylock Nov 2015 #105
How you know a candidate is not winning DownriverDem Nov 2015 #11
Yes, that IS how we knew. The exposure eg, of Hillary's Brock run Super Pac trying to plant sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #13
All that counts DownriverDem Nov 2015 #16
Yes, Bernie's campaign knows this! He's not new to politics nor are many of his supporters. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #21
You do realize a good 85% of the delegates are appointed through elections in the states right? RichVRichV Nov 2015 #122
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #166
You keep talking about "smears", just about every day or two, but never say what they are! George II Nov 2015 #19
Mighty quiet! George II Nov 2015 #103
The smear I hear most often from Bernistas is that anyone who... Nitram Nov 2015 #112
Yeah, ironic, huh? George II Nov 2015 #118
Not ironic. Dishonest. Nitram Nov 2015 #121
Consider this Robbins Nov 2015 #12
Exactly! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #14
Okay, how did he "hint" that he is sexist and racist? Surely you can tell us. George II Nov 2015 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #17
Fair--but Sanders is no Obama no matter how big the crowds are riversedge Nov 2015 #24
..and Hills is no Obama no matter how small the crowds are. aspirant Nov 2015 #26
OINK riversedge Nov 2015 #28
Of course he isn't. And Obama is no Bernie, and I'm no one but me. I never get what that is supposed sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #37
sabrina 1, you rock! Duval Nov 2015 #92
No. He isn't an Obama. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #48
Thank you, that was my thought also. But both have one thing in common which probably sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #55
Rand Paul was drawing large crowds several year ago, too, and we know the results of that campaign. George II Nov 2015 #104
Imagine Rand Paul as POTUS and Paul Ryan as Speaker (oops). Geronimo, folks! freshwest Nov 2015 #115
And those disappointed Libertarians are now going to Bernie who they say, is HONEST, unlike Paul sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #212
"Winning!" zappaman Nov 2015 #27
Ha! Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #46
Really appropriate in so many ways. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #47
I like it too, it's just another sign of the desperation the OP is all about. No substance, because sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #76
"it's just another sign of the desperation the OP is all about" NCTraveler Nov 2015 #93
Because it's so obvious! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #233
Love the sarcasm. I agree. Extremely obvious. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #234
Hillary supporters HAVE been talking about the issues-what Clinton feels are the important issues... George II Nov 2015 #106
Cute, AlbertCat Nov 2015 #58
LOL SunSeeker Nov 2015 #114
If he is drawing crowds like that in Cleveland, the news will spread, and Bernie's ideas and Bernie' JDPriestly Nov 2015 #41
Excellent post! in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #43
The People's Candidate! DianeK Nov 2015 #44
more like 30% of the Democratic electorate's candidate redstateblues Nov 2015 #54
Until the PEOPLE get to know him, which they will. We have a long way to go sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #56
sabrina 1, you rule. roguevalley Nov 2015 #53
Even Sanders' own campaign manager does not think that Sanders will win Gothmog Nov 2015 #57
What? Because he's not predicting something that cannot be predicted at this point sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #59
There is a major difference between being the nominee and being taken seriously Gothmog Nov 2015 #111
Oh wonderful, Wall Street is casino capitalism aspirant Nov 2015 #169
The old Intrade market was very accurate in predicting election results Gothmog Nov 2015 #200
Casino gambling is now replacing polls in elections because they are more accurate. aspirant Nov 2015 #214
What? aspirant Nov 2015 #65
Read the last three paragraphs of the article Gothmog Nov 2015 #109
Sanders keeps showing up at the Debates! Others are dropping out. DhhD Nov 2015 #158
According to Sanders' campaign manager, success is doing as well as Jesse Jackson in 1984 Gothmog Nov 2015 #159
Read the Title aspirant Nov 2015 #170
Read the last three paragraphs of the article Gothmog Nov 2015 #201
When Bernie is taken seriously, he will win the nomination aspirant Nov 2015 #215
Lol, thanks for actually reading the article! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #143
According to the online quiz, Sanders is closer to my positions than Clinton Gothmog Nov 2015 #160
That's why I support SAnders. Hillary has no crossover appeal, she appeals only to older sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #162
Again, the predicitve markets and the experts disagree Gothmog Nov 2015 #203
...and they have the voting machines... joanbarnes Nov 2015 #64
So the Republicans who you claim rigged the 2004 Election turned the machines over to the Democrats? brooklynite Nov 2015 #73
Excellent!! MissDeeds Nov 2015 #67
"HE DEFEATS YOUR 'inevitable candidate' in the polls in NH! " brooklynite Nov 2015 #70
Lol! Okay! Remember 2008? Bernie is way ahead of Obama at this point. Let's face it sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #71
and Clinton is way ahead of Clinton at this point. That's the problem... brooklynite Nov 2015 #74
He already has, more than Obama had at this point. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #77
And Clinton has more that Clinton had at this point.... brooklynite Nov 2015 #80
Bookmarking... SidDithers Nov 2015 #75
So, how were the polls on Corbyn? Did you SEE how wrong they were? Old methologies, failing sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #89
Super OP, sabrina 1 Duval Nov 2015 #78
We're something right, have you SEEN all the POLLS they are desperately trying to sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #84
Sabrina, suggesting negative polls "prove" the polls are rigged against Bernie is sad. Nitram Nov 2015 #107
That's CLEVELAND????? MADem Nov 2015 #82
So where does Hllary stand on the TPP now? Is it STILL the 'GOLD STANDARD' of Trade sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #87
That's not her style. But you know that. MADem Nov 2015 #97
Lol, we know. Bernie is the candidate of the people. Hillary, she isn't comfortable in sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #135
She's very comfortable with ordinary people. MADem Nov 2015 #136
Behind the stage and flag. Fuddnik Nov 2015 #90
Those seats are always empty. I didn't bother explaining as most people know that, but thanks sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #151
ain't nothing more interesting than when the Hillary group on DU PatrynXX Nov 2015 #94
I see. Here: MineralMan Nov 2015 #95
If Bernie Sanders doesn't win the primary and the general monicaangela Nov 2015 #100
Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Nov 2015 #108
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2015 #117
Kicked and recommended! Well done, sabrina! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #119
K&R! pacalo Nov 2015 #126
Hillary and her supporters are nervous so expect the gutter politics to keep coming. pa28 Nov 2015 #127
What an inspiring and positive OP! LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #128
If you build it they will come. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2015 #130
K&R nt. Juicy_Bellows Nov 2015 #132
K&R! marym625 Nov 2015 #133
Thanks for the chuckle MaggieD Nov 2015 #134
Every time I see posts like that, I think of Hillary and 2008! And I chuckle louder. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #139
Maybe someday Sanders will actually win a poll of registered voters Tarc Nov 2015 #138
Lol, all I see from Hillary's campaign is POLLS. Maybe someday the pollsters will poll sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #142
"Bernie on fire at Cleveland Rally this Past Weekend! " brooklynite Nov 2015 #141
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #167
I suspect their supporters all said the same thing... brooklynite Nov 2015 #171
I admire the conviction of the OP taught_me_patience Nov 2015 #145
Thank you! n/t sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #149
Wow, talk about needing to rally the troops. Beacool Nov 2015 #147
All those desperate polls they are churning out almost every hour. They sure are worried sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #152
Au contraire, ma chérie. Beacool Nov 2015 #156
But she was way, way ahead a few months ago. When you start falling in the polls that's called sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #193
This may come as a surprise to you, but Hillary Clinton is campaigning in the real world... brooklynite Nov 2015 #196
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #168
I know! I know! Internet polls!!!!! nt Adrahil Nov 2015 #154
Hillary supporters don't like those polls do they? But they sure love POLLS that don't sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #161
Reality: aspirant Nov 2015 #174
I agree. Keep volunteering and donating azmom Nov 2015 #157
Wonderful upbeat post. Paka Nov 2015 #163
Registering voters on campus yesterday (Humboldt University) marlakay Nov 2015 #164
Fantastic, good for you! And don't let their games get you down, that's what they are trying to do sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #173
Kick !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #172
K & R!!! Thespian2 Nov 2015 #175
President Sanders Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #178
I Saw THREE Bernie Bumper Stickers Today... ChiciB1 Nov 2015 #179
The go around before last.... paleotn Nov 2015 #180
WHAT'S HAPPENING??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 cui bono Nov 2015 #181
Thank you for the positive thread. LWolf Nov 2015 #182
The proof is in the movement... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #186
In one great sense, Bernie and his supporters are winning! lovemydog Nov 2015 #188
Happy to have him as a candidate to support Babel_17 Nov 2015 #190
It will be very amusing to see Hillary lose to a second perfect storm. LS_Editor Nov 2015 #202
HUGE K&R Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #206
I sure do hope Bernie Sanders can pull it off ArcticFox Nov 2015 #207
Wonderful post sabrina Nite Owl Nov 2015 #208
K & R. He will go all the way. totodeinhere Nov 2015 #210
Oh come on Kalidurga Nov 2015 #213
Hillary is so toast! Helen Borg Nov 2015 #217
K&R DLevine Nov 2015 #218
K&R! nt raouldukelives Nov 2015 #219
Great diary! zomgitsjesus Nov 2015 #220
K&R. Yes please! Overseas Nov 2015 #223
K/R UglyGreed Nov 2015 #239
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