2016 Postmortem

PosterChild

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142. I think you are missing the point . ....

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:42 AM

Oct 2015

,... the point is that hillary has wide, deep and strong support amongst Democrats and independents, including those here on DU, who are not billionaires , millionaires, 1 percenters, oligarchs , wall street economic criminals or any of the other supposed riff-raff that she is accused of being subservient to.

That support amoung those good people is due to their justified belief that hillary will best serve their interests and the best interest of our country as a whole. Slander and vilification for what amounts to be nothing more than running an effective broad-based campaign for the presidency is, imho, petty and lame.

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Do Bernie fans not understand the difference between people and corporations? [View all] DanTex Oct 2015 OP

of course Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #1

They know who is going to be better for the country and it is not Bernie. DanTex Oct 2015 #3

Yeah if you are a billionaire, we agree. JRLeft Oct 2015 #4

The millionaires Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #10

Shessh, So do most democrats .... PosterChild Oct 2015 #23

So you say that people "love" government favoring corporations? Show us the polls please! cascadiance Oct 2015 #49

What I said was that the.... PosterChild Oct 2015 #119

The polls showed the same thing in 2007 for Hillary too.... cascadiance Oct 2015 #129

I think you are missing the point . .... PosterChild Oct 2015 #142

Well, personally I'm pretty offended by her support for H-1B visa program expansion... cascadiance Oct 2015 #144

Thanks for sharing... PosterChild Oct 2015 #146

It's not a smear to say she's a shill when she advocates H-1B visa expansion... cascadiance Oct 2015 #147

Yes it is... PosterChild Oct 2015 #148

Even those that work for these "body shops" as "indentured servants" would be insulted as well... cascadiance Oct 2015 #154

I think you are a bit too concerned.... PosterChild Oct 2015 #158

If they want people like me who've been screwed by this shit to vote for them they will! cascadiance Oct 2015 #159

It isn't exactly all us vs. them treestar Oct 2015 #138

Corporations and other entities are organizational entities, NOT people... cascadiance Oct 2015 #145

As I said, most voters are not treestar Oct 2015 #149

The Koch brothers are laughing at you (or laughing with you if you are one of the 1%)... cascadiance Oct 2015 #153

You've simplisticated that. Under Citizs United corps can give all they want to SuperPacs. leveymg Oct 2015 #47

I sure hope you're reading from talking points, Dan. If this is your takeout, it mispeaks leveymg Oct 2015 #81

I find that disinformation seems to be the purpose of all of this poster's missives. Blus4u Oct 2015 #156

They still can't vote treestar Oct 2015 #139

Well, I hear you, Dan. The only problem is this: PatrickforO Oct 2015 #2

So all people who work for banks or pharma companies are suspect? DanTex Oct 2015 #5

Gee, I hope that chemist working hard for cancer cures is not thrown under the bus. leftofcool Oct 2015 #7

Goldman Sachs, Big Pharma giants, et. al. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #9

It's illegal for an employer to coerce workers to donate to political campaigns. DanTex Oct 2015 #14

It is illegal to kill thousands of works every year because you didn't provide safe equipment Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #17

Obviously you have evidence that Goldman and Pfizer and the rest are illegally coercing their DanTex Oct 2015 #19

Only good corporations give to Hillary then? Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #21

I'll take that as a "no evidence." DanTex Oct 2015 #22

+100 !! (NT) PosterChild Oct 2015 #26

Citizens United Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #28

Yes, Hillary wants to overturn CU. DanTex Oct 2015 #56

But, she's perfectly happy to take corporate money given to her captive SuperPacs leveymg Oct 2015 #64

She's just keeping it a big secret! AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #66

A good start would be refusing PAC $ to show good faith perhaps? Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #67

Overturn this week Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #106

With an attitude Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #78

Interesting. What you're implying is, first, that Hillary is going to win (you're right about that) DanTex Oct 2015 #86

Not just U Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #98

amen. nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #120

"Their bosses have nothing to do with that." Oh please. I know bosses "can't coerce" 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #31

Like Omaha Steve, I'm sure you have evidence that Hillary's donations have been coerced. DanTex Oct 2015 #32

I've already SAID .. "of course employers cannot coerces" <- i don't disagree 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #33

Well, without coercion, all those donations that Bernie fans keep complaining about DanTex Oct 2015 #38

Here is what I'll be "speaking up" about 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #52

Hillary is in favor of overturning Citizens United. DanTex Oct 2015 #53

But it's not only "wealthy liberals" who give to pro-Hillary Super-PACs 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #55

Which huge Wall St corporations gave to pro-Hillary SuperPACs and how much? DanTex Oct 2015 #58

Dark Money donors - by definition - cannot be traced or identified, so it's anyone's guess on those 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #76

Aha, so your evidence is an article from TownHall. Lordy. DanTex Oct 2015 #83

You are right about that ONE link, I checked it, then removed it. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #88

Like I said, you repeated the same mistake of pretending that individual donations come from DanTex Oct 2015 #94

Your equivocations are duly noted. You nave NOTHING 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #101

None of them, as far as I could tell, presented any evidence of a Wall St bank or big pharma DanTex Oct 2015 #103

I've already flatly said, repeatedly, what you say I didn't say. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #109

When the lights are off I see no roaches. When the Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #80

So no evidence, huh. That seems to be the theme here. DanTex Oct 2015 #87

+1000 nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #95

You can't actually be seriously claiming that coercion wouldn't cover opportunities for promotion mythology Oct 2015 #84

I can't prove that banks that paid fines in the millions are honest on EVERYTHING else they do Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #35

You can't prove anything. That's my point. It's all conspiracy theories. DanTex Oct 2015 #39

Can you prove the Kochs are dishonest? Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #40

Umm, what? Not sure what that has to do with anything. DanTex Oct 2015 #45

ALL political donors are honest if I get your gist? Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #71

No, not all. Still don't see what your point is. DanTex Oct 2015 #75

Of course you don't. That would cause you to question your strident position. Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #152

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #34

I don't believe the moon landing was faked either. DanTex Oct 2015 #41

They can't coerce but they can advertise their company PAC and solicit contributions strategery blunder Oct 2015 #97

The donations you see on all those internet charts are primarily from individuals directly DanTex Oct 2015 #99

You completely missed or disregarded my point strategery blunder Oct 2015 #102

Is there any evidence that any of the Hillary donations were pressured? DanTex Oct 2015 #105

Well considering the FEC literally can't enforce election laws due to political paralysis strategery blunder Oct 2015 #108

In executive suites, coercion is commonplace. Nt lostnfound Oct 2015 #133

When individual union members employed at Boeing, for example, pnwmom Oct 2015 #131

I donlt think the average worker is in a position to chip in the maximum Armstead Oct 2015 #50

No, but the top people at those big banks are suspect. reformist2 Oct 2015 #59

OK, but there aren't many of them. I don't know of the CEOs wrote $2700 checks to Hillary, DanTex Oct 2015 #62

Exactly. treestar Oct 2015 #141

And millions of union employees of giant corporations have donated to pnwmom Oct 2015 #96

Show me the link where it says thousands of corporate officers from Wall Street, big pharma, upaloopa Oct 2015 #116

Yes, we've "heard that" many times, yet not a single person has been able to actually.... George II Oct 2015 #123

Is there proof of that? treestar Oct 2015 #140

Oh for crying out loud, Dan! leftofcool Oct 2015 #6

I'm a working class clerk at a bank ..... ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #51

According to some, yes emulatorloo Oct 2015 #61

Yup I saw that. ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #70

Ha ha ha ha! emulatorloo Oct 2015 #73

You cannot be pure if you work for any corporation. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #8

Heck, I'm just a Real Housewife of Orange County, R B Garr Oct 2015 #36

Remember Citizens United? Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #11

Ben and Jerry's is not a person AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #12

your points, debunked? DonCoquixote Oct 2015 #13

Wow, you're actually comparing bank and pharma employees to Mafia Godfathers! DanTex Oct 2015 #15

+100 !! (NT) PosterChild Oct 2015 #25

The bankers who stole over half of the middle class wealth? Those bankers? AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #27

Citibank has 100,000+ employees, are all of them evil? DanTex Oct 2015 #30

You don't jail 100,000 employees AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #42

All of the executives? Really? Anyone with an executive job, you would jail. DanTex Oct 2015 #43

Do you even know what we are talking about? AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #46

You keep posting a picture of that Pharma guy. Not sure why. DanTex Oct 2015 #48

You claim the public is gung ho behind the Pharma industry! AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #63

When did I claim that? DanTex Oct 2015 #90

You imply it AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #115

because he represents the status quo DonCoquixote Oct 2015 #113

Who said "the buck stops here?" Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #85

They are very much like extortionists! The more Bernie says this, the more the public will like him. reformist2 Oct 2015 #60

Oh right, it's all the janitors & secretaries ... Ino Oct 2015 #16

Who said anything about janitors and secretaries? DanTex Oct 2015 #18

They're heads are in the sand I can't hear you. JRLeft Oct 2015 #37

By your logic, some could claim Bernie's in the pocket of Kaiser Permanente, Federal Coal emulatorloo Oct 2015 #68

Keep at it Dan RobertEarl Oct 2015 #20

"Fans"? This is not a concert, Dan. This is real life TBF Oct 2015 #24

Yes. Corporations are the ones that bailed Hillary out of being "dead broke". Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #29

I guess those PACS and SuperPacs don't matter much. Armstead Oct 2015 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author Fairgo Oct 2015 #57

K & R, Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #54

Another great post from Dan Tex redstateblues Oct 2015 #65

Let's put it this way. I don't think the people who work in Wal Mart stores ... Armstead Oct 2015 #126

What they don't understand is campaign finance law BainsBane Oct 2015 #69

Then I guess the Kochs are irrelevant? Armstead Oct 2015 #72

The campaign finance system is a travesty BainsBane Oct 2015 #77

I want to know if they understand that Skidmore Oct 2015 #74

We're all corporations! Self loathing corporate Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #91

This started from my OP aout the AFSCME FaceBook graphic Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #79

Hey, Goldman Sachs, et. al. did NOT water-board their employees to get those Hillary donations!! 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #104

Clinton's been a loyal warrior for Wall Street, pharma, and the MIC, and her campaign is rolling in MisterP Oct 2015 #82

Corporations don't donate money to campaigns. The money on those charts you see comes from DanTex Oct 2015 #89

How bout those SuperPacs? Armstead Oct 2015 #125

They'll crawl over glass to vote for a Shkreli Democrat! Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #93

I understand quite well who is a wholly owned subsidiary of Goldman-Sachs. hobbit709 Oct 2015 #92

Some are quite obviously in denial about plutocracy. Garrett78 Oct 2015 #132

It's like a community of vampires Android3.14 Oct 2015 #100

The OP can't be serious. Vinca Oct 2015 #107

This is one of the most naive OPs I have ever read on DU. SandersDem Oct 2015 #110

NO they just believe in supporting democracy Armstead Oct 2015 #124

This comes up all the time tammywammy Oct 2015 #111

Why would you have to do that? Cleita Oct 2015 #127

It's on the form tammywammy Oct 2015 #130

bit of a disconnect when conservatives are funding PatrynXX Oct 2015 #112

OMG You had to really dig deep INdemo Oct 2015 #114

In what ways, I'm wondering, does Hillary break from the ideology of compassionate conservatism? Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #151

anything a Hillary supporter does or can understand, a Sanders supporter long has stupidicus Oct 2015 #117

First it is Stockholm Syndrome and now it is lack of mental acuity. leftofcool Oct 2015 #122

"If the shoe fits..." as they say stupidicus Oct 2015 #135

The individuals understand who butters their bread. Garrett78 Oct 2015 #118

dan, i appreciate your creativity, truly. restorefreedom Oct 2015 #121

As Progressives we are smart enough to know the difference between individual donations Autumn Oct 2015 #128

Everything you've just said is bull shit. Fearless Oct 2015 #134

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #136

The blind hatred of "corporations" is ridiculous treestar Oct 2015 #137

The blind hatred of us that hate UNCONSTITUIONAL "corporate PERSONHOOD" is more ridiculous! cascadiance Oct 2015 #160

No, they don't. NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #143

You seem to be the one lacking an understanding. Garrett78 Oct 2015 #150

Hillary fans don't seem to be able to figure out what superpacs are, where the money comes from or Autumn Oct 2015 #155

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Oct 2015 #157