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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 12:42 PM Oct 2015

The Trouble With Bernie Sanders [View all]

The trouble with Bernie
BY MICKEY HIRTEN
Oct. 7 2015 11:18 AM


Here's my problem with Bernie Sanders. With few exceptions, I agree with his positions on issues. But I don't like him or his political temperament. He'd be an awful president.

I followed him carefully when I was editor of the Burlington Free Press in Vermont. Sanders was the state's sole congressman, lived in Burlington, and would periodically visit with the newspaper's editors and publisher.

Considering that the Free Press' editorial positions were very liberal, reflecting the nature of a very liberal Vermont community, one might think that meetings with Sanders were cordial, even celebratory.

They weren't. Sanders was always full of himself: pious, self-righteous and utterly humorless. Burdened by the cross of his socialist crusade, he was a scold whose counter-culture moralizing appealed to the state's liberal sensibilities as well as its conservatives, who embraced his gun ownership stance, his defense of individual rights, an antipathy toward big corporations and, generally speaking, his stick-it-to-them approach to politics.

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I'm not alone in my opinions about Sanders. Chris Graf, long-time Associated Press bureau chief in Vermont, in an article published Sept. 30 in Theweek.com, had this to say about the senator.

“Bernie has no social skills, no sense of humor, and he's quick to boil over. He's the most unpolitical person in politics I've ever come across,” Graf said. Others who have covered Sanders agree.

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http://lansingcitypulse.com/article-12189-The-trouble-with-Bernie.html
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The Trouble With Bernie Sanders [View all] Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 OP
And Maybe.... rsmith6621 Oct 2015 #1
From the article: Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #4
So you're voting for O'Malley, then? Fawke Em Oct 2015 #9
I am more worried about Hillary using those codes, in order to prove she is "tough", a Maggie djean111 Oct 2015 #13
Then Vote For Hillary or Trump rsmith6621 Oct 2015 #14
Marco Rubio seems to be an even-keeled sort of idiot. Maybe we should all vote for him instead. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #19
I would rather have a man with passion and a mission than the roguevalley Oct 2015 #90
You're a DUer I have a lot of respect for Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #98
Kind of funny, Bernie has reached accross the aisle numerous times and worked with Dustlawyer Oct 2015 #105
To which heart of America are you referring?-nt Anansi1171 Oct 2015 #127
Wow! A terrible thing having a serious person representing us. Maybe he should be joking around,.... dmosh42 Oct 2015 #2
Can't find a positive message on Clinton? HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #3
Well, we are talking about someone who doesn't know about the pic in their own sig. jeff47 Oct 2015 #10
Why are you folks so obsessed with my sig pic? Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #15
Because your use of it is a perfect example of your style-over-substance leanings. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #27
LOL...clearly it's touching a nerve. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #31
Nah, I wouldn't be laughing at you if it was. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #35
... Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #37
Yep. The nerve in my funny bone. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #118
Opinions vary, now don't they? R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #5
I know this question will be seen as furthering the attack/smear; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #48
This kind of comity we can do without: Bill Clinton conspires with Paul Ryan on Medicare cuts. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #55
Agreed ... But what does that have to do with what I posted? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #59
This. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #66
Psst ... Bill Clinton isn't running for office. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #68
Uh huh. Weird talking to you, as usual <nt> AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #72
Bill isn't, but Chimpy's "sister-in-law" is LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #74
Who would that be? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #76
Here is your clue. Time_Lord Oct 2015 #80
Not to mention Henry Kissinger's protege Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #95
That would be... LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #100
Sorry I asked ... I should have looked and saw who I was asking ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #101
Sorry I gave you the answer LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #102
Whatever. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #104
Sorry about the facts. They would like to apoloigize. LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #106
Whatever. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #107
No really, I'm sorry about reality. How can reality and I make it up to you? LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #108
Here ... Let's save some time ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #110
And I'll keep posting the facts, and when the facts show you are wrong you can say LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #111
Whatever. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #112
Whenever I am confronted with facts I don't like and can't refute, LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #115
Whatever. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #116
Age appropriate LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #134
Whatever. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #135
That was stunning! ebayfool Jan 2016 #136
Lets see Rilgin Oct 2015 #56
That doesn't answer my question ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #62
It could suggest that Rilgin Oct 2015 #63
I find your closing argument to be complete fantasy. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #64
This ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #65
Bullshit. You can return to your alternate reality any time you wish. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #73
Okay. Thank you. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #75
You're welcome. Any time I can point the way for you. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #77
If you can really say/think the advances we have seen ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #78
Like the wall street bailout without any real reform? R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #81
No, but he's worked with Ron Paul to pass an "Audit the Fed" thing...I think... ancianita Oct 2015 #113
Here is the one discussion I've seen on your question GitRDun Oct 2015 #131
BTW, Sanders gave Mr. Hirten an honest answer. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #6
I think that author has sour grapes GitRDun Oct 2015 #132
Why would I care about some editor's personal dislike of Bernie's manner? Enough to switch my djean111 Oct 2015 #7
Style over substance... whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #8
He isn't running for Prom King Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #11
The ability to work with others, is not a matter of participating in a popularity contest ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #50
It is just more BS from Clinton supporters. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #69
I just heard that a lot of people are talking about pangaia Oct 2015 #109
I tried to get a picture of him smiling. JEFF9K Oct 2015 #12
Try for a screenshot of his interview with Larry Wilmore. Actually laughing! djean111 Oct 2015 #17
What a grim, humorless crank deutsey Oct 2015 #47
My strategy in getting shots for my videos is to watch a TV interview and take pics of the screen. JEFF9K Oct 2015 #84
must be running out of slag if his 'lack of social skills' (which belies his roguevalley Oct 2015 #91
Try Google. Autumn Oct 2015 #20
Guess you didn't try hard enough ornotna Oct 2015 #22
Maybe he didn't like you. 840high Oct 2015 #82
sounds good ibegurpard Oct 2015 #16
Nonsense. kenfrequed Oct 2015 #18
Mickey who? 99Forever Oct 2015 #21
Odd. I feel that way often, too, MineralMan Oct 2015 #24
Strange you would say so. 99Forever Oct 2015 #26
Don't forget about his azmom Oct 2015 #23
Differences of opinion are what make horse races. Mark Twain Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #25
Y.A.W.N. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #28
blah blah blah bowens43 Oct 2015 #29
At the rate you're going Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #30
I can think of a few more with "temperaments" like that ... Myrina Oct 2015 #32
Bill Clinton (although he does have charm), LBJ Armstead Oct 2015 #40
yeah. I remember George Stepanopolous who used to get all bill's tirades roguevalley Oct 2015 #92
The problem with Bernie Sanders is he exposes the hypocrisy of Hillary Clinton Android3.14 Oct 2015 #33
Yeah, without even trying tularetom Oct 2015 #86
It sounds like somebody didn't get the story they were looking for. Vinca Oct 2015 #34
Ahhh.. I love him even more wendylaroux Oct 2015 #39
Cali-Democrat, this is gossip These stories by disgruntled staffers or pissed off reporters emulatorloo Oct 2015 #36
Horror! Boomer Oct 2015 #38
Yes sir!!!! BOOM!!! wendylaroux Oct 2015 #41
Warning shots? Like "I'll throw a temper tantrum If you don't redstateblues Oct 2015 #53
Why overrated? Because Obama refuses to use it? WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #87
the bully pulpit is the only thing that matters but since you probably have roguevalley Oct 2015 #93
Was this meant for #53? WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #120
it was drop downs kill me :D roguevalley Oct 2015 #124
That's a wee bit harsh! WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #128
snicker. Your smilie is adorable. I feel awesome today. My mom roguevalley Oct 2015 #133
bern enid602 Oct 2015 #42
Yep. Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #43
their latest delusion roguevalley Oct 2015 #126
so for you it's personality over policies? ish of the hammer Oct 2015 #44
this crap again? restorefreedom Oct 2015 #45
This post reminds me of another one... thesquanderer Oct 2015 #46
You're on a board where a vocal minority claims to not support Sanders... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #88
they decried the source of the hillary fuck you remark but glide roguevalley Oct 2015 #94
That's why so few take them seriously. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #123
The issues are the only things that matters to me. hifiguy Oct 2015 #49
Great article Gothmog Oct 2015 #51
These are fair criticisms and real impediments if he were ever to make it out of the primaries BeyondGeography Oct 2015 #52
I wonder if Bernie will lose his temper at the debates workinclasszero Oct 2015 #54
I suggest that you and all Camp Weathervane members... 99Forever Oct 2015 #71
Yeah, what kind of politician is he anyway? tularetom Oct 2015 #57
^^^THIS!^^^ 99Forever Oct 2015 #70
+1 840high Oct 2015 #83
And? mmonk Oct 2015 #58
Having a President who is quick to boil over is not a good thing. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #60
this is absurd dsc Oct 2015 #61
There is no trouble with Bernie Sanders AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #67
I want a president who is serious about the issues, and Bernie is best on the issues I care about peacebird Oct 2015 #79
Thanks for your concern. GoneOffShore Oct 2015 #85
The Trouble is he's running against Clinton Armstead Oct 2015 #89
... romanic Oct 2015 #96
K & R SunSeeker Oct 2015 #97
Explains why he can't even join a party treestar Oct 2015 #99
insert cookie here roguevalley Oct 2015 #125
That Mr. Hirtan doesn't like Bernie is apparently not relevant 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #103
Cali_Democrat has put a Hurtin on us all. nt DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #117
I haven't paid attention to MoDo in, I'm guessing, a decade. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #121
A wise choice 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #122
From Kelly, the current Director of the VermontProgressive Party and FORMER BERNIE STAFFER: in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #114
"He's the most unpolitical person in politics..." Sounds like a helluva good reason to vote for him Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #119
Ever More Attacks On Bernie And Supporters - So Sad To See Democrats Suckered By These Tactics cantbeserious Oct 2015 #129
One could have criticized Harry S Truman for the same social deficiencies. no_hypocrisy Oct 2015 #130
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