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DanTex

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Fri Oct 9, 2015, 10:14 AM Oct 2015

Steve Leser for VP! [View all]

I've noticed a pretty strong correlation between the amount that DU hates a person, and how effective that person is in promoting progressive policies and moving the nation in the right direction. For example, as of now the two most hated people on DU are Obama and Hillary Clinton, both great Democratic leaders, one a transformative president, and the other likely to be the next president to protect and extend on Obama's legacy of progressive accomplishments.

But who should be VP? Well, based on the DU hate-o-meter, for some reason a journalist named Steve Leser is getting pounded almost as hard as Clinton and Obama. I don't know if he'd consider a run for office, but in my mind there isn't a much better endorsement that a person can receive than being detested by the same group that has spent the last 7 years attacking Obama.

Steve for VP!

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Steve Leser for VP! [View all] DanTex Oct 2015 OP
I don't think hate means what you think it means. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #1
I don't think "progressive" means what he thinks, either. Scuba Oct 2015 #28
I think he may be trying to redeem the word BainsBane Oct 2015 #107
I'm not too sure he's that clear on what 'DU' mean either (nt) muriel_volestrangler Oct 2015 #135
damn it! Leser is outpolling me!!! wyldwolf Oct 2015 #2
He's a guy, what'd ya expect? leftofcool Oct 2015 #4
So am I last I checked.. I mean... wyldwolf Oct 2015 #11
ROFLMAO! leftofcool Oct 2015 #16
I like that. Come on, Steve, throw your hat into the ring! leftofcool Oct 2015 #3
The hate and vitriol on DU has made me question liberalism and JaneyVee Oct 2015 #5
Take heart DFW Oct 2015 #54
Fortunately for you zalinda Oct 2015 #78
+10 - well put. nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #82
. Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #83
Bernie supporters are on average wealthier than Hillary supporters. DanTex Oct 2015 #88
Might that change once Vermonters are only a small portion? Hortensis Oct 2015 #121
Right, beware the limousine liberals, they're everywhere DFW Oct 2015 #94
And, IMO, yours sounds like classic "where's mine" belated populism. Hortensis Oct 2015 #122
Very well said. I have 'hung out' also with the elite of the Dem party (it was a summer job sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #131
+ another Scuba Oct 2015 #137
Suuuuure. It's DU that's caused that. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #61
Whatever this is, JaneyVee, it's NOT liberalism. Liberals are Hortensis Oct 2015 #119
Really? zalinda Oct 2015 #145
Good night, Zalinda. Hortensis Oct 2015 #146
Great post DJ13 Oct 2015 #157
Just when I think you've reached the summit of Mount Inanity... whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #6
Didn't Obama rename Mt Inanity recently to Denial? Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #143
You don't understand, and misuse, the word "hate." You insult those who have been victims of morningfog Oct 2015 #7
Oy vey William769 Oct 2015 #13
Yes yes, Hillary supporters are victims of hate crimes by DUers. morningfog Oct 2015 #77
Hate and hate crimes are two different things. William769 Oct 2015 #81
I predict the misplaced bitterness will get worse sufrommich Oct 2015 #8
Who better to be her VP than someone who savaged her in 2008 whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #9
Really. It is like there is no awareness of irony or hypocrisy. n/t djean111 Oct 2015 #10
Performance art I'm starting to suspect Fumesucker Oct 2015 #15
He is consistent in that regard, I must admit. Scuba Oct 2015 #30
You want irony and hypocrisy? NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #96
Here's the thing - I consider that Bernie represents what Democrats SHOULD represent. djean111 Oct 2015 #104
Here's the thing ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #105
As if Hillary is not a political opportunist. djean111 Oct 2015 #106
I'll bet you're really good at picking the fleas off cats. senz Oct 2015 #111
Sometimes those "fleas" ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #112
Oohhh...yeah... senz Oct 2015 #113
He respected our party enough to run as a D and took plenty of grief from the far left for doing so. PotatoChip Oct 2015 #114
He respected our party enough to run as a D? NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #116
I appreciate the fact that he's respecting our wishes to not run as an Independent. PotatoChip Oct 2015 #123
Well, I don't share your "appreciation". NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #125
I'm well aware of what he said, since you guys keep parroting that one line over and over. PotatoChip Oct 2015 #129
Nance, is it painful to be so wrong so often? Scuba Oct 2015 #136
Wrong about what? NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #144
Hey, if a pro-war, pro-Wall Street, pro-fracking, pro-H1B Visas woman can be a Democrat ... Scuba Oct 2015 #148
Except he isn't a Democrat. NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #151
In case you've not noticed, Bernie is running as a Democrat. Scuba Oct 2015 #154
In case you've not noticed ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #158
A Hillary fan complaining about "political convenience." Hilarious. Scuba Oct 2015 #159
As I said upthread ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #160
Sorry Nance, but in my opinion it's about principles, not party. You apparently disagree. Scuba Oct 2015 #166
I fail to see what is "principled" ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #169
So Bernie's principles are a moving target but Hillary has been consistent. Got it. Scuba Oct 2015 #170
Yet again ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #171
He plays one on TV. okasha Oct 2015 #163
Oh, after all this time being wrong I guess that she's used to the pain, it's just a mild annoyance. NealK Oct 2015 #164
And our money, okasha Oct 2015 #152
You're right, except for the part about the DNC using Bernie to raise money. Scuba Oct 2015 #165
Well, to be fair, the OP does not specify which presidential candidate... stone space Oct 2015 #32
Kicked and recommended!!! DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #12
Kind of like this? William769 Oct 2015 #17
Yeah, I asked you for a citation on that. You ignored the request. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #18
Steve gave you an answer. William769 Oct 2015 #21
I responded to it. Did you not see that, Bill? DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #36
Google. DanTex Oct 2015 #31
Google DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #38
TWENTY-FIVE YEARS AGO !! :>))))))))))) pangaia Oct 2015 #132
Here ya go! leftofcool Oct 2015 #33
Thanks, but... DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #39
Or this: George II Oct 2015 #80
Now I'm off to rec a thread by someone who voted for Reagan! NuclearDem Oct 2015 #40
Awesome. Tell Manny I said hello. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #42
Dearest me! People can change their minds? MOST UNORTHODOX NuclearDem Oct 2015 #46
The arc of progress is a far cry from starkly opposite binary states. Have a good weekend. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #47
yes! Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #52
You mean Elizabeth Warren? Lisa D Oct 2015 #45
Bullshit gotcha games are bullshit gotcha games, no matter the target. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #49
I absolutely agree! Lisa D Oct 2015 #50
Perhaps you haven't changed as much as you think. sibelian Oct 2015 #93
Well, you know what they say about staring into the abyss... NuclearDem Oct 2015 #97
I disagree that people are not responsible for prior actions just because Hortensis Oct 2015 #128
Steve would be a great addition to the team! William769 Oct 2015 #14
Dan needs to be on the cabinet. Skidmore Oct 2015 #22
Press Secretary! William769 Oct 2015 #23
press sec is actually a realistic position in his case JI7 Oct 2015 #100
Already the weeping and knashing of teeth .. ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #19
Gnashing. opiate69 Oct 2015 #58
knashing is noshing on a knish! dorkzilla Oct 2015 #64
I admit... opiate69 Oct 2015 #65
Thank you! ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #108
I'd vote for Steve Skidmore Oct 2015 #20
K&R Fumesucker Oct 2015 #24
Should I do a new poll? BooScout Oct 2015 #25
I think a new poll is in order. leftofcool Oct 2015 #35
Your wish is my pleasure! BooScout Oct 2015 #69
Nailed it. Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #26
Steven Leser is a pundit, of sorts. MineralMan Oct 2015 #27
What'd you say?!? ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #70
LOL. Hortensis Oct 2015 #124
I once remarked ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #130
Wise man. I think I'd choose to undergo a "paradigm shift" Hortensis Oct 2015 #133
Laughing at is "pounding"? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #29
Do you think calling a DUer a "bullet headed goon" is funny? nt sufrommich Oct 2015 #34
That got hidden, so a jury of his peers at "Bernie Underground" told him in no uncertain terms that Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #53
Anything JackInGreen Oct 2015 #37
it's the rightwing debating tactics I"ve noticed and noted from DU thirdwayers stupidicus Oct 2015 #48
they also say we're the "loony left" and back GOP policies if it's a Dem doing it MisterP Oct 2015 #161
you know it stupidicus Oct 2015 #173
that's the kinda illogic or dishonesty about any chummaster might deploy stupidicus Oct 2015 #41
Oh, wait... You're serious? frylock Oct 2015 #43
With Steven on Fox News, the Murdoch connection is complete. OnyxCollie Oct 2015 #44
Seriously, Dan - we're defining "hate" as illustrating hypocrisy by recalling one's own bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #51
Yes! He would be perfect for Hillary's VP. I think this will be a first for me when I rec this OP Autumn Oct 2015 #55
A pair of flip flops! panader0 Oct 2015 #87
If Julian Castro is not the VP nominee, then Steve Leser is a good second choice Gothmog Oct 2015 #56
I really doubt that she would want anything to do with the guy who wrote this: NealK Oct 2015 #57
He's a fellow flip-flopper, she'd LOVE him. senz Oct 2015 #110
Lol, so true. NealK Oct 2015 #162
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #59
What is it with people who were so virulently against one candidate in 2008 and now for in 2016? Fumesucker Oct 2015 #66
Perhaps you should be addressing your question to DanTex. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #68
That poster is so far gone he doesn't even notice Fumesucker Oct 2015 #71
I disagree. And don't appreciate your unnecessary, over the top, attack on him. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #72
You brought him up and I never mentioned names... Fumesucker Oct 2015 #75
Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #79
.... ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #120
two most hated people on DU are Obama and Hillary Clinton AlbertCat Oct 2015 #60
+1000 nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #84
Saturn cat! I want one. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #126
Saturn cat! I want one. AlbertCat Oct 2015 #138
Thank you. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #140
A ridiculous posting. SoapBox Oct 2015 #62
^this^ retrowire Oct 2015 #76
Right up there as one of the most ridiculous OPs ever. kath Oct 2015 #95
Hate. NealK Oct 2015 #63
Don't know who Steve is, but it sounds about right. n/t ffr Oct 2015 #67
Does this thread have a beneficial or meaningful purpose? floriduck Oct 2015 #73
Showing my support in a jovial manner for a long-time DUer who the hate squad has recently decided DanTex Oct 2015 #74
Thanks for the link. Now I can give it my K&R 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #85
Gotta watch out for those sarroguts. Is that like some kind of fish or something? DanTex Oct 2015 #89
haa-haa. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #92
do any of this poster's? Doctor_J Oct 2015 #155
So much fail packed into just two paragraphs. Way to go, Dan! Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #86
Then we'd be voting Spirochete Oct 2015 #90
Love Steve! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #91
primary campaigns can get really ugly JI7 Oct 2015 #98
Would he and Clinton be able to keep their ever shifting positions in sync? nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #99
Hmmm, now that would be quite a trick! kath Oct 2015 #115
Silly rabbit... Unknown Beatle Oct 2015 #101
He's too busy cashing his checks from his Fux News appearances. Why would he give up Exilednight Oct 2015 #102
I don't think many people on 'DU' hate President Obama WI_DEM Oct 2015 #103
I don't think Trump would have him. Rubio might, though. senz Oct 2015 #109
I like Steve just fine Puzzledtraveller Oct 2015 #117
Absolutely. Jamaal510 Oct 2015 #118
I agree. Go Steve. And I applaud him for being a serious national journalist and also DanTex Oct 2015 #139
Feel better now? pangaia Oct 2015 #127
Are you talking about Fox's pivot man and foil who Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #134
I think you mean Dennis Kucinich a.k.a. the last Bernie Sanders. DanTex Oct 2015 #141
Kucinich I know. Terrible candidate. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #150
Steve Leser is a teller of truth. Autumn Oct 2015 #142
He is going to have a hard time squaring that circle. They'll only people Exilednight Oct 2015 #147
LOL I like your reasoning! treestar Oct 2015 #149
I think the republicans would have fun with that. he's already written their ads for them Doctor_J Oct 2015 #153
First-Way Steve? Or Third-Way Steve? MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #156
I tweeted him & linked him to the thread here pinebox Oct 2015 #167
Ridiculous. He's unknown and unqualified. RBInMaine Oct 2015 #168
I will accept any position to which Democratic nominee Clinton or President Clinton calls on me stevenleser Oct 2015 #172
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