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Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts) Thu Oct 8, 2015, 07:43 AM Oct 2015

Clinton supporters: are you maintaining your principled support for TPP? [View all]

Or have you also switched to a newly principled opposition to TPP?

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Clinton supporters: are you maintaining your principled support for TPP? [View all] Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 OP

I have the same position I had before dsc Oct 2015 #1

Me too. That's a good way of putting it. MADem Oct 2015 #126

I am maintaining my principled "on the fence" stance on TPP. I've always believed DanTex Oct 2015 #2

I am in similiar space regarding TPP ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #93

If it's anything like other modern day agreements, it will be a disaster. Garrett78 Oct 2015 #142

<snickers> Android3.14 Oct 2015 #104

+1 treestar Oct 2015 #145

My thoughts are here... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #3

Oh, but it's different now. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #4

Looks like they're waiting for the weathervane to stop spinning. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #5

Hence the fervent support for Hillary. Birds of a feather so forth. cpompilo Oct 2015 #56

And you wholeheartedly suppot how Sanders Gloria Oct 2015 #81

What's the point of all these constant flame wars? procon Oct 2015 #6

These pleas for comity fall on deaf ears. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #7

Be careful what you wish for Fumesucker Oct 2015 #30

<--- Fellow usenet participant checking in. n/t Aerows Oct 2015 #53

Thank you jehop61 Oct 2015 #8

+ 1 JoePhilly Oct 2015 #18

People don't post in GDP to change minds or win other over. morningfog Oct 2015 #9

How is this a flame war? Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #13

Hogwash. procon Oct 2015 #17

I didn't ask for "an explanation for which candidate they choose", I asked if they were a Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #113

Really? nt MADem Oct 2015 #127

You must have missed the anti-Bernie "racists" "Useless White Supremacist Liberals" threads. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #21

That's not the focus of this thread, yeah? procon Oct 2015 #24

Respectfully, you brought up flame wars in this thread. aidbo Oct 2015 #31

I see you deleted your post where you said Bernie shouldn't jump through hoops for African Americans Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #45

Ouch. zappaman Oct 2015 #54

Maybe on you. darkangel218 Oct 2015 #64

LOL!!!! zappaman Oct 2015 #68

I loathe Budweiser. darkangel218 Oct 2015 #69

My bad! zappaman Oct 2015 #70

Wrong again! darkangel218 Oct 2015 #71

LOL!!!! zappaman Oct 2015 #72

That was 2 and a half years ago! I like Corona now darkangel218 Oct 2015 #73

Congrats for moving on to the next shitty beer! zappaman Oct 2015 #74

Thats none of your concern, is it? darkangel218 Oct 2015 #75

Concerned? NO. Amused? YES!!! zappaman Oct 2015 #76

Enjoy your Bud!!!! darkangel218 Oct 2015 #77

I'll make sure to pour one out upon your next time out, homie. zappaman Oct 2015 #79

Youre calling a female " homie"? darkangel218 Oct 2015 #80

yes. zappaman Oct 2015 #84

Lame excuses for your personal attacks. darkangel218 Oct 2015 #87

Sorry your alerts didn't work out. zappaman Oct 2015 #88

What does the above pic have to do with the OP or my posts to you? darkangel218 Oct 2015 #94

I always thought "Homie" or "Homey" was a gender-free designator. MADem Oct 2015 #128

I guess I learned something today. darkangel218 Oct 2015 #129

Results... Major Nikon Oct 2015 #83

You have deleted so many your posts in the past few days darkangel218 Oct 2015 #62

If they find those ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #95

These are desperation OPs upaloopa Oct 2015 #55

"I like your Bernie. I do not like your Bernie supporters. Your Bernie supporters are so unlike Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #102

lol! treestar Oct 2015 #146

To bait Hillary supporters into hides. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #67

Aren't you better than this? Aerows Oct 2015 #86

Wow! Do me a favor and don't send me pms anymore telling me your my friemd if you are going to hrmjustin Oct 2015 #89

Damn. Aerows Oct 2015 #90

Good. I hate people who say one thing in private and another in public. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #91

Because I obviously do that Aerows Oct 2015 #92

No you and others don't like that I speak out for Hillary and call Samders supporters out hrmjustin Oct 2015 #96

Not to worry. Aerows Oct 2015 #97

Good! I don't care for fair weather friends. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #98

Neither do we, hrmjustin. Nt. darkangel218 Oct 2015 #99

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #10

If by chance the TPP starts polling well she'll have 2nd principled evolution... Indepatriot Oct 2015 #11

If the people want something treestar Oct 2015 #147

I'm more than a little skeptical that she would change a long-held position if she were still Indepatriot Oct 2015 #153

Corporations can't vote treestar Oct 2015 #155

I look for a leader who can show me how to speak openly, edgineered Oct 2015 #12

As soon as I learn the details i will let you know. nt kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #14

Yeah...so what did she learn in these few short weeks artislife Oct 2015 #154

I think it disingenuous to equate supporting Clinton with de-facto support of the TPP. randome Oct 2015 #15

You'd have to be willfully ignorant to fail to acknowledge that some of bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #16

I disagree... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #20

'Some'. I agree. That's not how the OP worded it. The implication is clear. randome Oct 2015 #25

You've read "all" into an op that did not make that assertion. Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #114

If it is so painfully obvious, link to some of the posts. stevenleser Oct 2015 #42

Same here. Control-Z Oct 2015 #149

Yes, I am. Freddie Stubbs Oct 2015 #19

Yes, and I am very disappointed in Clinton for such a nakedly political move. tritsofme Oct 2015 #22

She doesn't want a repeat of 08 where she was flogged for her NAFTA support. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #23

Awesome, change your principles like a pantsuit to avoid political discomfort! whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #28

There are principles and there are issues positions. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #32

Well, maybe you could instruct us whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #34

If every issue is of primary importance than no issue is of primary importance. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #35

That's nice but whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #36

When she violates those principles I will withdraw my support. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #37

I think I understand clearly whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #38

Donald Trump is steadfast in his nativism. That is why I oppose him. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #39

And the principle is corporations before country. nt mhatrw Oct 2015 #85

That's kind of the point Armstead Oct 2015 #33

What I want to know is why Clinton is throwing Obama under the bus and now TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #26

They're currently alternating between whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #27

I was neutral on the TPP before, and I am neutral on it now. nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #29

Well, Clinton's latest pandering sure seems to be a case of, as someone once put it, LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #143

Excellent question. K&R! nt Zorra Oct 2015 #40

That's quite the broad brush there BainsBane Oct 2015 #41

You're reading a claim that all Clinton supporters Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #50

Do you think we can expect this same aspirant Oct 2015 #43

lol Matariki Oct 2015 #44

Warren Stupidity: excellent click bait and rec bait. emulatorloo Oct 2015 #46

I'm not the OP, but you are obviously missing the point. darkangel218 Oct 2015 #52

IMHO OP's "point" is to start a flame-war. I'm just glad it benefits DU's bottom line. emulatorloo Oct 2015 #59

You are just wrong there. darkangel218 Oct 2015 #61

The thread title is snarky and confrontational emulatorloo Oct 2015 #63

No it is not. darkangel218 Oct 2015 #65

I've read Warren's posts emulatorloo Oct 2015 #78

He asked a straight forward question. darkangel218 Oct 2015 #101

Oh hold on there. I most certainly do think that there are people who hold a position of Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #115

Then maybe your thread title should reflect your true beliefs emulatorloo Oct 2015 #116

The question only applies to you if a) you support Clinton and b) you are a principled supporter of Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #118

Warren, I have an interest in rhetoric and rhetorical strategies. emulatorloo Oct 2015 #124

! Kali Oct 2015 #133

We'll, we're dueling with things like this Doctor_J Oct 2015 #132

We DemsForHillary move lockstep in whatever direction our leader does. You should too. ;) reformist2 Oct 2015 #47

So much for Hillary being a true fighter. azmom Oct 2015 #48

That!!!!!^^ darkangel218 Oct 2015 #51

He is going to mop the floor with this bonehead move Android3.14 Oct 2015 #105

Are principles in the Triangulation Handbook? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #49

Good a gotcha thread upaloopa Oct 2015 #57

Why would some of you "say something really awful"? (quotting you here) darkangel218 Oct 2015 #58

It is a simple direct question no gotcha involved YabaDabaNoDinoNo Oct 2015 #60

Remember the questions they ask candidates upaloopa Oct 2015 #103

All yes the cult of personality response YabaDabaNoDinoNo Oct 2015 #134

I never was for TTP. Your attempt to bait us into hides is transparent Warren. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #66

Results: tishaLA Oct 2015 #108

I have 4 hides and was out with 5 in September. If I get another I am out till late November so... hrmjustin Oct 2015 #109

Ah, now it's clearer to me. nt tishaLA Oct 2015 #110

Perhaps you should stop with the personal attacks then. Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #111

In your mind it was a fair question but in the real world it was a loaded question. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #119

Well it was just a suggestion, Justin. If you want to flame out again Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #120

Spare me warren. You asked me the other day if was searching for responses to alert on. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #121

yes I did. Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #122

And my point is an observation. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #123

"...someone is trying very hard to silence me." cleanhippie Oct 2015 #138

Glad you got a laugh. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #139

which way is the wind blowing? mhatrw Oct 2015 #82

East, West, East North East, West!!! darkangel218 Oct 2015 #100

Well played, sir. hifiguy Oct 2015 #106

Your implication is sexist. AngryAmish Oct 2015 #107

That is so off the wall I have no clue how to respond. Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #112

No one I know has seen it so it's kind of hard to say. moobu2 Oct 2015 #117

good question. my guess is that they will now be against it. then when the candidate flips back Doctor_J Oct 2015 #125

Lol!! darkangel218 Oct 2015 #131

OP assumes HRH's supporters support her because of her positions. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #130

or they are just like her will say or do anything to win even if it is a lie. YabaDabaNoDinoNo Oct 2015 #135

Surely not ... TheFarS1de Oct 2015 #136

Got to admit is is funny watching them flip and flop like a fish out of water on the ground! YabaDabaNoDinoNo Oct 2015 #137

Well really it is only the subset of supporters who also supported tpp Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #140

I remember several TPP supporters, one in particular... HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #141

Her position appears to be do what the People want treestar Oct 2015 #148

What's with the HRH? Control-Z Oct 2015 #150

I can still support Hillary treestar Oct 2015 #144

A weather vane will ALWAYS point in the direction that the wind is blowing. guillaumeb Oct 2015 #151

I'll have a principled position after I read it. okasha Oct 2015 #152