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(48,121 posts) Wed Oct 7, 2015, 04:05 PM Oct 2015

Clinton opposes Pacific Rim trade deal [View all]

MOUNT VERNON, Iowa (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton says she opposes the big Pacific Rim trade accord backed by President Barack Obama.

The Democratic presidential candidate says in an interview with PBS there are too many "unanswered questions" about the Trans-Pacific Partnership. She says, "What I know about it as of today, I am not in favor."

The free trade deal backed by the administration has been opposed by liberal Democrats and labor unions.

Clinton helped lay the foundation for the deal as Obama's secretary of state.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/c470a54cc2b341b19ff3a16ef17e5fcb/clinton-opposes-pacific-rim-trade-deal

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Where's that weathervane gif when you need it? HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author 4139 Oct 2015 #5

This one? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #13

Seriously...little late. Tired of Hillary's "me too" phony populist rhetoric. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #81

She's getting ready for the debate next week Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #114

Can't wait to hear the polling data's flip-flop answer to that question, with a half twist of triangulation thrown in. Bernie will smoke Hillary in the debate...can't wait! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #2

Link to the story on PBS.org... PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #3

Yeah, leaving herself the usual wiggle room. CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #4

Exactly smilingwen Oct 2015 #11

Yes, what I know today. jwirr Oct 2015 #19

I don't know what she stands for - changes 840high Oct 2015 #6

Yeah, she stands for winning MissDeeds Oct 2015 #8

Yeah. She believes she should be president. senz Oct 2015 #86

You'd think that someone who has been involved in politics for 50+ years, Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #135

Well this Bernie supporter is happy mvd Oct 2015 #7

As a Bernie supporter, I welcome her opposition. mmonk Oct 2015 #9

Bernie is against it because-- he is against it. pangaia Oct 2015 #95

Duck! Here comes that moving goalpost! Divernan Oct 2015 #10

"Not good enough!" say the Hillary haters. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #12

The anti-Hillary crowd has been bashing her for days for not saying anything and now..... leftofcool Oct 2015 #24

How do you keep track of where she stands on things? virtualobserver Oct 2015 #101

Its too funny isn't it? workinclasszero Oct 2015 #131

Good for her! Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #14

My thoughts exactly. Bernie is having an impact. Broward Oct 2015 #16

This isn't Bernie. This is Hillary wanting to lock down union endorsements before Biden askew Oct 2015 #42

Well, there's that (wanting to lock down union endorsements before Biden)... tex-wyo-dem Oct 2015 #76

lol...good luck with that! Bernie will get the union vote over both Biden and Hillary. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #83

"What I know about it as of today, I am not in favor." jfern Oct 2015 #15

Of course she does Autumn Oct 2015 #17

She knows which way the political winds are blowing. Broward Oct 2015 #18

Thank God she finally made up her mind! left-of-center2012 Oct 2015 #20

"what i know about it as of today....." restorefreedom Oct 2015 #21

Caught that too! The Hillary-speak...leave just a little wiggle room for triangulation proposes. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #133

I'm glad she opposes it now but can we trust her to oppose similar agreements in the future? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #22

We can "trust" her to initate them ... if she has an office-holding future. senz Oct 2015 #25

Yes, just like we can trust Sanders not to do stupid shit like support the Minuteman... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #31

Results... Major Nikon Oct 2015 #122

It's been fun watching her followers defend the TPP. It's going to even more fun senz Oct 2015 #23

hahaha grasswire Oct 2015 #66

Good point...thought the same thing. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #84

Sanders doesn't evolve on anything!! NOT ONE ISSUE!! uponit7771 Oct 2015 #26

What has he evolved on? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #29

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A thread with that vile smear was hidden because it's from a banned DUer. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #33

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Got proof that Bernie the son of immigrants is anti-immigrant? Tia! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #40

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That's just a list of who voted what. No content. arcane1 Oct 2015 #48

Here's some content... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #51

So where does it say he supports the Minutemen? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #55

So, government funds should be used for this purpose? arcane1 Oct 2015 #60

You mean this bill?: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #50

No, this one... http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Immigration.htm uponit7771 Oct 2015 #54

Again, where is the proof he's anti-immigrant? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #57

Who is the "anti immigrant racist punk"? arcane1 Oct 2015 #41

Bernie says that we are a "nation of immigrants. That is, in fact, the strength of America." beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #59

Bernie: Offer path to citizenship; waive deportation for DREAMers beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #61

English-Only, based in xenophobia, hurts legal immigrants beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #63

Anti-immigration Bernie voted YES on continuing federal funds for declared "sanctuary cities". beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #64

Anti-immigration "racist punk" Bernie rated 0% by FAIR beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #68

Anti-immigration Bernie Voted NO on reporting illegal aliens who receive hospital treatment. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #69

That Member of DU is not banned, Not PPR'd — not even on a timeout. Raine1967 Oct 2015 #70

You're really going to defend the honour of Spandan Chakrabarti? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #73

My point remains: Raine1967 Oct 2015 #80

I cited info from the hidden thread: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #82

No you didn't. Raine1967 Oct 2015 #103

Are you saying the author of that article isn't a banned DUer? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #104

No I am not saying that. I am saying that you said Raine1967 Oct 2015 #105

That is most certainly NOT what I said. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #106

Go back and take a look at post #33. Raine1967 Oct 2015 #108

Point out where I said the member who posted the article was banned. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #109

Maybe you could actually share a link (permalink, perhaps) from the Member who was PPR'd. Raine1967 Oct 2015 #110

No, pathetic is repeatedly claiming I said something I didn't and not proving your assertion. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #112

you may assume whatever you choose. Raine1967 Oct 2015 #118

What a bizarre subthread. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2015 #120

Thanks, I was beginning to wonder if I was crazy. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #123

Nothing personal, but you have to parse the language to get it right. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #121

The wording was a bit clumsy. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2015 #124

It was a little clunky, yes. And I did have to read it again to make sure I got it right. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #125

You'll have to forgive me, I was angry to see it posted here again. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #126

You are forgiven! Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2015 #128

Tank you veddy much! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #129

Yeah, this was due to be re-re-recycled any day now. arcane1 Oct 2015 #37

You mean his vote for the Minutemen to be recycled!? http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll224.xml uponit7771 Oct 2015 #39

Please cite proof that he "voted for the Minutemen". Tia! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #43

The GOP gumper legislation was in support of them, play obtuse... I could care less. uponit7771 Oct 2015 #47

Where does it say he voted for the "Minutemen" specifically? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #53

Oh, he evolved when he betrayed Ron Paul on their Gloria Oct 2015 #74

Did she give a clue to what the "unanswered questions" are? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #27

"How will this affect my run for president?" senz Oct 2015 #89

LOL. I think you're on to something there. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #96

So what. Would she veto it if she became President? closeupready Oct 2015 #28

"As of today" But what about tomorrow? ram2008 Oct 2015 #30

Good. Let's keep it that way n/t arcane1 Oct 2015 #34

I don't know how Hillary supporters aren't just embarassed by their candidate. askew Oct 2015 #36

I haven't seen an issue oriented post from them in ages. their campaign seems to have three planks Doctor_J Oct 2015 #46

Yeah, I guess that is it. askew Oct 2015 #52

and when she starts attacking Obama DonCoquixote Oct 2015 #97

She already has. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #99

Yeah... kenfrequed Oct 2015 #113

Oh they are. It expresses itself in vitriolic smears n/t arcane1 Oct 2015 #49

she'll be in favor again as soon as the primaries are over Doctor_J Oct 2015 #38

We'll see how hard she fights it. ibegurpard Oct 2015 #45

I wonder "what I know about it as of" tomorrow will bring? cpompilo Oct 2015 #56

Well done Mrs. Clinton. Finally something I can actually get behind if she wins the nod. ion_theory Oct 2015 #58

ANY adults here ? Gloria Oct 2015 #62

"positive environmental sections"...? tex-wyo-dem Oct 2015 #85

There was a lot more in there than expected, that's Gloria Oct 2015 #115

These all-encompassing "free trade" agreements negotiated in secret are bad by definition Armstead Oct 2015 #88

I totally agree.. Gloria Oct 2015 #116

It's a good day for some kabuki Bernblu Oct 2015 #65

Yep. As of today blah blah blah. N/t azmom Oct 2015 #71

It's been signed. It's too late to change it. Qutzupalotl Oct 2015 #67

She totally Berned Obama on that one! Bucky Oct 2015 #72

Well, if she truly has, Good for Her Armstead Oct 2015 #75

Incredibly disingenuous and disappointing. tritsofme Oct 2015 #77

As of today I'm happy she does. ornotna Oct 2015 #78

I am glad that Hillary Clinton is taking this position Gothmog Oct 2015 #79

Yeah it's a good thing her focus group finally weighed in. senz Oct 2015 #90

then she shoukd have taken it DonCoquixote Oct 2015 #98

Cynical Politics - Too little too late! Bernblu Oct 2015 #100

I'm even more glad that Sanders took it (more firmly) months ago Doctor_J Oct 2015 #102

. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #87

Pacific Rim sounds like a double entendre DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #91

There is much bad in the TPP, but the worst is this: senz Oct 2015 #92

Surprised, did not see this coming. joshcryer Oct 2015 #93

so one of the main archoitects of this deal DonCoquixote Oct 2015 #94

You all realize that this will make Biden THE "pro-TPP" candidate, bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #107

Yes, it does.... Gloria Oct 2015 #117

Which might actually work in his favor Egnever Oct 2015 #134

I don't buy it. kenfrequed Oct 2015 #111

I don't believe a word she says anymore. 840high Oct 2015 #127

So she was for it, until Pharma CEO's, Big Tobacco and Republicans were against it. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2015 #119

Now *that* is cynicism. Like - in your back, Obama. delrem Oct 2015 #130