2016 Postmortem

Bonobo

(29,257 posts) Sun Sep 27, 2015, 11:22 AM Sep 2015

You say Hillary would win the GE and Sanders would lose because...? [View all]

A. Hillary would draw more Republican votes.

B. Hillary would draw more Independent votes.

C. There are many Democrats that won't vote for Sanders, but will vote for Hillary.

Which one(s)?

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You say Hillary would win the GE and Sanders would lose because...? [View all] Bonobo Sep 2015 OP

d. restorefreedom Sep 2015 #1

E. Stupid question. Gman Sep 2015 #2

Don't you know? Krytan11c Sep 2015 #3

That was a Black man with a huge war chest, right? brooklynite Sep 2015 #9

Yes, how much money someone has should be our first consideration... mak3cats Sep 2015 #12

That’s his response to EVERYTHING - always points out the MONEY nt. dorkzilla Sep 2015 #26

I don't really have anything to say right now... cui bono Sep 2015 #31

Hahahahahahaha! YOU MADE ME SPIT UP MY DRINK! dorkzilla Sep 2015 #34

I hope your keyboard is okay! cui bono Sep 2015 #37

Yeah profundity is not one of my strong suits right now either dorkzilla Sep 2015 #38

He's what you might call "insulated" Scootaloo Sep 2015 #33

He claims he’s also had dinner with Bernie and Jane dorkzilla Sep 2015 #36

Talk about the horns of a dilemma... brooklynite Sep 2015 #47

He's raised money. Just not the familiar slimy quid pro quo way this country traditionally does dorkzilla Sep 2015 #51

Actually I did correct my assertion, but you probably didn't bother to check... brooklynite Sep 2015 #57

Well, if you had it either was buried in the thread or you did it several days later. dorkzilla Sep 2015 #59

I have been to a bundler event and made a decent size contribution Gothmog Sep 2015 #61

"Bernie Sanders Courts Martha’s Vineyard Donors" brooklynite Sep 2015 #60

That's like saying someone is a hypocrite for voting on an electronic voting machine... cascadiance Sep 2015 #63

"you have to play by its rigged and corrupt rules" brooklynite Sep 2015 #65

Some rules you can push on... cascadiance Sep 2015 #66

Title should be Sanders courts rich uber-liberals.... Historic NY Sep 2015 #67

Again that was 2011 dorkzilla Sep 2015 #69

That was 2011 dorkzilla Sep 2015 #68

We did. brooklynite Sep 2015 #70

Holy cow dude dorkzilla Sep 2015 #71

I never said he invited me home...I said I had dinner with him... brooklynite Sep 2015 #77

Time will tell...and you’re not going to win anyone over by constantly talking $ dorkzilla Sep 2015 #79

When money stops being an issue in campaigns, I'll stop talking about it... brooklynite Sep 2015 #80

That day may be at hand. One can hope. nt dorkzilla Sep 2015 #81

Because it's a threshold requirement... brooklynite Sep 2015 #46

That's merely your theory dorkzilla Sep 2015 #48

That theory has been built on every campaign for the last 80 years... brooklynite Sep 2015 #50

Your obsession with money is tiresome. Nt dorkzilla Sep 2015 #52

Think of it as being my obsession with the Democrats actually winning the election. brooklynite Sep 2015 #55

OK, that explains it..... daleanime Sep 2015 #76

Being a self-declared socialist is whole different ballgame. He can not win the American presidency. RBInMaine Sep 2015 #49

Hey, good to see you back and still pushing the "a socialist can't become POTUS" canard tularetom Sep 2015 #54

Before calling it a "canard", care to provide evidence that a Socialist CAN become President? brooklynite Sep 2015 #58

Hey better being that than someone who lives off of Joseph Stalin empire money through the Kochs... cascadiance Sep 2015 #64

Truth: Sanders beats many Republicans among Republicans! MindfulOne Sep 2015 #4

That was taken on Mackinac Island last weekend corkhead Sep 2015 #6

Cool! MindfulOne Sep 2015 #20

Not first, but on the list definitely. Skating along on social media Hortensis Sep 2015 #18

Jury Results oneshooter Sep 2015 #28

Well! MindfulOne Sep 2015 #32

Real oR photoshopped? cui bono Sep 2015 #39

AFAIK it was an epic photo bomb n/t hootinholler Sep 2015 #56

Where voters know Sanders best (Vermont) Bernie ties GOP front-runners. 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #5

...and Vermont is a bellwether for national Republican voting trends? brooklynite Sep 2015 #8

Vermonters know Bernie best. You must be thinking of New Hampshire, Bernie's ahead there too. 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #13

Actually, I'm thinking about Ohio and Michigan. brooklynite Sep 2015 #22

Team Bernie is working on that 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #23

We probably should care more about which candidate is stronger with independents in stillwaiting Sep 2015 #25

That would be Sanders too I suspect. Chan790 Sep 2015 #72

A and B. brooklynite Sep 2015 #7

His depth of support among Democrats is really bad Recursion Sep 2015 #15

"Progressive" is being misused all over the place by various Hortensis Sep 2015 #19

Hillary claims she is the Moderate candidate Fumesucker Sep 2015 #21

...and has repeatedly rejected identification by others of being either "liberal" or "progressive". Chan790 Sep 2015 #74

They're not real Democrats. Chan790 Sep 2015 #73

You just say that 'cuz you are one of us mean Sanders supporters. 99Forever Sep 2015 #10

Hillary garners no Republican or Independent votes AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #11

A and C Recursion Sep 2015 #14

and other polling suggests Robbins Sep 2015 #17

I just saw a poll that said he had 5% unfavorability within his party anti partisan Sep 2015 #27

What polling? He's doing better in the general election polls than Hillary. jfern Sep 2015 #35

I'm assuming that you're familiar with the concept of the "grudging vote?" Chan790 Sep 2015 #75

I would be concerned about Michael Bloomberg getting in as an Independent. Vinca Sep 2015 #16

Unfortunately a Sanders/Trump or Sanders/Cruz contest essentially guarantees that Recursion Sep 2015 #24

That's a good point, hadn't thought about it that way before. nt DanTex Sep 2015 #30

A, B, and a little C. He's a self-described socialist. Grossly underfunded. If anyone as far left DanTex Sep 2015 #29

I disagree with A and B but think that C might be true. Bonobo Sep 2015 #40

OK, so we disagree about electability. That's basically what the primary is about anyway. DanTex Sep 2015 #41

It's relative. Bonobo Sep 2015 #42

"More of" sure, but that doesn't make her an actual war hawk. DanTex Sep 2015 #44

Making sense mostly. Bonobo Sep 2015 #45

It's a ridiculous assertion. hifiguy Sep 2015 #43

Shit, the GOP could nominate Boehner.... HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #53

Clinton is likely to be able to run an adequately fianced campaign Gothmog Sep 2015 #62

he just doesn't have TV Q olddots Sep 2015 #78