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2016 Postmortem

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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:37 PM Sep 2015

(The Hill) DNC's new meme is Bernie is "unelectable"...really? Never would have guessed. [View all]

Democrats: Sanders unelectable
9/19/15

The surging popularity of Sen. Bernie Sanders has done little to alleviate the chief concern that Democrats have about his presidential bid: Namely, that he's simply unelectable on a national stage.

The Vermont Independent has quickly closed the gap on frontrunner Hillary Clinton in national polls, while overtaking the former State secretary in the early voting states of Iowa and New Hampshire. Supporters say his rising momentum and populist message will carry him to the White House.

....snip...

Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas), who has not endorsed a primary candidate, said Sanders is doing "a great job" bringing the Democrats' policy agenda into the public eye. But he's concerned how the "socialist" label attached to the senator will play in a national election.

"The fact that he's been on that ticket raises some questions in other parts of the country: 'Can anyone who has ever had that label as an official candidate, as distinguished from an Independent, [win]?'" Doggett asked. "That's a question that many of us have had."

The doubts surrounding Sanders' electability are hardly universal. A growing number of lawmakers are pushing back as Sanders gains prominence in the race.

Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.), a 2016 Senate candidate who has not endorsed a primary contender, characterized Sanders as one of Congress's most effective legislators, saying all claims that he's unelectable are "politically motivated attacks" designed to undermine his bid.

"Bernie has the appeal of being able to demonstrate to people that he can get good things done. He is not some kind of liberal stick figure; he's someone who has a record of actual accomplishment," Grayson said. "If Bernie's the nominee, then Bernie very likely will be the next president of the United States."

Rep. Raúl Grijalva (D-Ariz.) echoed that message, warning that Democrats, by doubting Sanders' viability as a candidate, risk undermining the party's agenda.....

Full story here (or just read the posts here at GD: P)~
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/254280-democrats-sanders-is-unelectable


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So was Truman in '48. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #1
Thank you. RiverLover Sep 2015 #6
the fix is in..... movonne Sep 2015 #30
Fixisin? No, it's political toxin; typical campaign spread alleleopathic toxin HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #39
So was Truman a... PosterChild Sep 2015 #36
Hillary and all of the Republican candidates are corporatists. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #49
And I'll wager .,.. PosterChild Sep 2015 #66
Truman was a Democrat! The GOP had endured 16 consecutive years of Democrats in WH Demeter Sep 2015 #73
Yep - I'm old enough to remember. 840high Sep 2015 #82
Nice how quick people are picking up on this utter bullshit that Bernie is "unelectable". djean111 Sep 2015 #2
Boom! RiverLover Sep 2015 #4
Desperation play by the DNClinton and Team Hillary - the ultimate "political outsider" peacebird Sep 2015 #10
Exactly. The GOP are praying Hillary get's the nomination... ReallyIAmAnOptimist Sep 2015 #17
Minor tweak jeff47 Sep 2015 #25
Completely unelectable from my family Pope Sweet Jesus Sep 2015 #27
Here's Why The South Poses A Huge Problem For Bernie Sanders still_one Sep 2015 #3
Meh. This Southerner is voting for him. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #8
So is this one peacebird Sep 2015 #11
Great. Is that the Southern consensus? still_one Sep 2015 #12
This one too AND... tosh Sep 2015 #21
If you look at my FB timeline, Bernie is the only candidate running. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #62
but the election is decided by all the voters, or a majority of them treestar Sep 2015 #51
I've gone into only about four threads just now and this was in two of them. cui bono Sep 2015 #15
So? I only posted it in two threads. One thread indicated Bernie would win by a landslide, so I still_one Sep 2015 #43
Well look at his rising popularity. The more he gets out there, the more people support him. cui bono Sep 2015 #57
No doubt that his popularity is rising, at least within progressive circles, just as Hillary still_one Sep 2015 #65
His popularity is rising among conservatives as well! cui bono Sep 2015 #67
I do not believe there is evidence to suggest that his popularity is increasing among conservatives still_one Sep 2015 #68
I do believe. There's a group "Republicans for Bernie" or something like that. cui bono Sep 2015 #69
Those students at Liberty are not going to vote for any Democrat including Bernie. The conservative still_one Sep 2015 #70
No, there are moderate Republicans who respond to Bernie's message. cui bono Sep 2015 #79
No, and I certainly give very little credence in savage and his ilk. His still_one Sep 2015 #81
Ernst won IA because the Democratic candidate followed the failed DNC strategy of running as a GOP Vincardog Sep 2015 #94
we will see. I am not convienced that the country has suddenly turned more progressive, and most of still_one Sep 2015 #95
"The Country" has always been progressive on the issues. Money and cheating have given us the Vincardog Sep 2015 #97
I agree with your assessment of the corrupting influence of money, which also influences the MSM still_one Sep 2015 #98
Too often the "Sources" are the OWNERS of the RWM. Vincardog Sep 2015 #99
That problem is potentially solvable thesquanderer Sep 2015 #20
That is a good point still_one Sep 2015 #55
In Texas, Sanders has to break the 15% barrier to get any delegates Gothmog Sep 2015 #34
Obama one three Southern states in 2008: JDPriestly Sep 2015 #53
So? No Democrat will win any southern state in the general n/t eridani Sep 2015 #85
the party bigwigs and dear Hillary will stop at nothing. cali Sep 2015 #5
It is disgusting. RiverLover Sep 2015 #7
Its clear the Party has it collective heads tucked somewhere dark. I hope Bernie can pull CentralMass Sep 2015 #9
Wow. We've never heard that thrown at a candidate before. LWolf Sep 2015 #13
Not against a..... PosterChild Sep 2015 #33
They've been calling Obama a socialist since '08. LWolf Sep 2015 #47
Perhaps because he didn't call himself one? brooklynite Sep 2015 #58
I don't think it's going to matter much LWolf Sep 2015 #61
Obana doesn't call HIMSELF a socialist .... PosterChild Sep 2015 #64
His name is Obama, LWolf Sep 2015 #89
Are they already recycling memes? Can't come up with anything new? cui bono Sep 2015 #14
She also insisted Obama couldn't win. How'd that work out again? AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #16
Dunno. But Hillary clearly learned the lessons of her last campaign ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2015 #29
It is breathtaking. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #41
Does she have a blind spot, or is it bad advice from someone, somewhere? ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2015 #72
The DNC is backing Hillary left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #18
They don't seem to be. RiverLover Sep 2015 #22
Rigging reminds me of Republican behavior. Well they do behave more than half-way Cal33 Sep 2015 #48
And neither is it "leadership" anymore, not really. DNC is neither. -nt- 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #24
Is this a fact or did you just pull it out of the air? Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #38
"My last communication with the DNC" Android3.14 Sep 2015 #45
I guess left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #56
Remind me again how Hillary was The Inevitable One SheilaT Sep 2015 #19
Yep I was told that as well. By a wealthy NYer... RiverLover Sep 2015 #23
Laugh! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #26
Ummm, there AREN'T ... PosterChild Sep 2015 #35
This isn't really new. People have been saying it hughee99 Sep 2015 #28
As I mentioned in another thread, "unelectable" is an appalling tautology RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #31
I keep asking the same question and I keep getting unsatisifactory answers Gothmog Sep 2015 #32
add +1 to the "Bernie is unelectable" meme counter. nt antigop Sep 2015 #37
Actually, people have answered you a thousand times, but you don't like the answers. eom Fawke Em Sep 2015 #63
The answers so far rely on magic twitter and youtube accounts Gothmog Sep 2015 #77
Well, you convinced me. Maedhros Sep 2015 #74
Clinton does not support Citizens United either Gothmog Sep 2015 #90
I don't believe her, though. Maedhros Sep 2015 #93
The sockpuppets have been scurrying around here of late, as well Android3.14 Sep 2015 #40
Yep. RiverLover Sep 2015 #52
That meme might be out there, but it's not a DNC meme Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #42
As I read your post, I heard you say the words as if you were Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men RiverLover Sep 2015 #54
If you'll notice, the DNC wasn't really mentioned inthat article Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #84
PDA? Is that . .. PosterChild Sep 2015 #75
Yes Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #83
So was a little known black Senator from Illinois. He was unelectable too. Autumn Sep 2015 #44
As Bernie has recently shown in Vermont polls, he appeals to some GOP voters. Vinca Sep 2015 #46
Show me some Republican support in the South or in the Midwest tossup States? brooklynite Sep 2015 #59
If he had more exposure - like more debates with Hillary - he would have it. Vinca Sep 2015 #86
So he was able to get enough exposure in IA and NH to lead, but he can't get noticed elsewhere? brooklynite Sep 2015 #87
I fold - can't argue with a Hillary supporter. Vinca Sep 2015 #88
He is. treestar Sep 2015 #50
The DNC isn't saying this. Enough of the bullshit lies and propaganda. RBInMaine Sep 2015 #60
Oh that's rich. RiverLover Sep 2015 #71
That talking point had it's tires tested here nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #76
Like this morning... RiverLover Sep 2015 #78
Ha ha! We have had a socialist in the White House for over 6 years! KelleyKramer Sep 2015 #80
Why they should quickly drop that argument Babel_17 Sep 2015 #91
Nothing "new" about that. Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #92
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #96
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