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askew

(1,464 posts)
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:22 PM Sep 2015

IT Staffer who set-up Hillary's private email server is pleading the 5th [View all]

For those who say this is a big nothingburger or that this email scandal is going away, think again.

From Washington Post:

A former State Department staffer who worked on Hillary Rodham Clinton’s private e-mail server this week tried to fend off a subpoena to testify before Congress, saying he would assert his constitutional right not to answer questions to avoid incriminating himself.

The move by Bryan Pagliano, who had worked on Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign before setting up the server in her New York home in 2009, came in a Monday letter from his lawyer to the House panel investigating the 2012 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya.

The letter cited the ongoing FBI inquiry into the security of Clinton’s e-mail system, and it quoted a Supreme Court ruling in which justices described the Fifth Amendment as protecting “innocent men .?.?. who otherwise might be ensnared by ambiguous circumstances.’?”

The FBI is investigating whether Clinton’s system — in which she exclusively used private e-mail for her work as secretary of state — may have jeopardized sensitive national security information.

Thousands of e-mails that have been released by the State Department as part of a public records lawsuit show Clinton herself writing at least six e-mails containing information that has since been deemed classified. Large portions of those e-mails were redacted before their release, on the argument that their publication could harm national security.

“While we understand that Mr. Pagliano’s response to this subpoena may be controversial in the current political environment, we hope that the members of the Select Committee will respect our client’s right to invoke the protections of the Constitution,” his attorney, Mark MacDougall, wrote.

Two other Senate committees also have contacted Pagliano in the past week, according to a copy of the letter, which was obtained by The Washington Post. The requests came from the Senate Judiciary Committee and the Homeland Security Committee, according to people familiar with the requests.

The Senate Judiciary Committee confirmed Wednesday that it sought to ask Pagliano about his work for Clinton.

Pagliano, who worked in the State Department’s information-technology department from May 2009 until February 2013, left the agency when Clinton departed as secretary. He now works for a technology contractor that provides some services to the State Department.


This is horrible news for Hillary's campaign.

This on topic of the latest news from Reuters that additional FGI (Foreign Government Information) was found in her latest batch of emails. FGI is considered classified at birth with no exceptions. Bad news all-around for Hillary.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/02/us-usa-election-clinton-idUSKCN0R22C120150902
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Sneering dismissals appearing soon. DavidDvorkin Sep 2015 #1
DU needs a sneering smiley MoveIt Sep 2015 #2
That's a great idea. DavidDvorkin Sep 2015 #6
how's this one? teach me everything Sep 2015 #53
And precinct captains. merrily Sep 2015 #72
UNCLEAR HOW CLOSELY REGULATIONS FOLLOWED riversedge Sep 2015 #8
How does the "she may not have been the only one" defense work for most people? merrily Sep 2015 #73
Hell of a way to demean and dismiss the opinions of those that disagree with you... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #98
Some opinions aren't worthy of anything more. DavidDvorkin Sep 2015 #114
Interesting development. morningfog Sep 2015 #3
He's exercising his constitutional rights and pleading the fifth moobu2 Sep 2015 #4
optics. He doesn't want to incriminate himself. Get it? delrem Sep 2015 #11
Oh it's something. It will keep this going with another chapter. morningfog Sep 2015 #16
This isn't going to get any better for Hillary. askew Sep 2015 #31
If they restrict questions to what he did as an employee? Babel_17 Sep 2015 #60
He can not be made to testify against himself. moobu2 Sep 2015 #69
They can give him immunity, but that doesn't always work well. merrily Sep 2015 #75
You know it’s all bullshit!! busterbrown Sep 2015 #68
I don't blame the guy Travis_0004 Sep 2015 #44
Isn't that what his lawyer is supposed to tell him? merrily Sep 2015 #76
You can't possibly be serious. merrily Sep 2015 #74
This is wishful thinking and speculation tymorial Sep 2015 #151
"in which she exclusively used private e-mail for her work as secretary of state" AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #5
You better go correct her lawyers then. jeff47 Sep 2015 #12
I read it the opposite: official work was done exclusively via private email n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #15
In which case almost every email on the server would have been classified AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #19
Likely, assuming more business emails were sent/received than personal ones. arcane1 Sep 2015 #21
From your link... BooScout Sep 2015 #7
Our allies and enemies are watching this shit and DURHAM D Sep 2015 #10
Gowdy is using the committee for the political purpose of trying to smear... George II Sep 2015 #89
LOL - so many idiots so little time DURHAM D Sep 2015 #9
It's called a STE. jeff47 Sep 2015 #13
So if you are across the desk from each other DURHAM D Sep 2015 #28
Now try to read the second sentence of that post. jeff47 Sep 2015 #30
Well Jeff - you didn't explain what a secure whatever is. DURHAM D Sep 2015 #37
No, the truth is I'm not desperately flailing about for dumb reasons to ignore the story jeff47 Sep 2015 #41
LOL - great on the 'I'm not desperately flailing...' comment. That's pithy. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #51
Nah, that would be silly. You use the Cone of Silence, of course! Buns_of_Fire Sep 2015 #58
No, the cone of silence.... louis-t Sep 2015 #128
You don't seem to know anything about data security with respect to the federal government. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #14
And you don't seem to read well. DURHAM D Sep 2015 #26
Well that stings a little. But you're right and I was wrong. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #153
You use... PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #23
LOL. n/t FourScore Sep 2015 #45
You use a Secure Telephone Unit (STU). It's a big phone with a key, you turn the key and you MADem Sep 2015 #38
The truth is that so much of the state department's work, DURHAM D Sep 2015 #43
A shitload of it comes right off the front pages of foreign newspapers and magazines. MADem Sep 2015 #46
Look how far in the weeds we are and much of it because of alleged liberals bashing Hillary randys1 Sep 2015 #142
Yep, and alleged is an operative term. MADem Sep 2015 #154
Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Sep 2015 #18
i'll take Cummings' statement above for the truth, Alexis! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #20
I'm aware of it. Don't give a shit. I say this as a Sanders supporter. cheapdate Sep 2015 #22
Discussed on Lawrence show. elleng Sep 2015 #24
What did Lawrence say? askew Sep 2015 #29
Wondered what 'self-incrimination' at issue. elleng Sep 2015 #32
Yeah, I am curious about that. askew Sep 2015 #34
you said "What Did Lawrence Say?" I can tell you randys1 Sep 2015 #140
That is what is called a big drop nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #25
Do you understand what "pleading the fifth" means? If you think this is "bad news for Hillary" then MADem Sep 2015 #27
It means no evidence 6chars Sep 2015 #54
It means the guy does not want to incriminate HIMSELF. MADem Sep 2015 #57
His job description might have entailed reporting on lapses in security Babel_17 Sep 2015 #61
Who knows? He's not talking because he's worried about himself, though-not anyone else. nt MADem Sep 2015 #63
"One can't "plead the fifth" to protect a boss or an associate." Oh yes they can if they did... aikoaiko Sep 2015 #91
Oh boy ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #107
Show me case law where someone did something illegal and was forced to testify aikoaiko Sep 2015 #109
That's not what you said ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #110
That's not protecting the boss, though. That's protecting themselves. MADem Sep 2015 #117
I am truly agnostic on the whole email thing. It wouldn't surprise me if they was or wasn't aikoaiko Sep 2015 #121
Oh sure, it could happen, I absolutely acknowledge that. MADem Sep 2015 #123
and obviously doesn't know what happened during the McCarthey hearings still_one Sep 2015 #56
+1. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #108
It means he believes he is exposed to criminal liability. That is not good morningfog Sep 2015 #80
How is it "not good for Hillary" if a low level worker takes the fifth about HIS -- not her-- MADem Sep 2015 #82
It what world is this a good thing for Hillary? morningfog Sep 2015 #83
Or he is smartly aware there is a witch hunt by the GOP and others, people who claim to be Democrats randys1 Sep 2015 #127
That is not a ground to invoke the 5th amendment. morningfog Sep 2015 #130
This guy has such limited technical background Halliburton Sep 2015 #33
Well, it would explain why the server had the default encryption keys installed... (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #35
Yeah, I am sure he is regretting ever installing that server now. askew Sep 2015 #39
It is just dumb artislife Sep 2015 #71
"He now works for a technology contractor that provides some services to the State Department." It Metric System Sep 2015 #42
I wouldn't jump to conclusions. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #67
I don't blame him.pleading the fith with this Congress bigdarryl Sep 2015 #36
+1 GitRDun Sep 2015 #49
Rep. Elijah Cummings has it right in the article. Leave it to Sanders supporters to side with Gowdy Metric System Sep 2015 #40
OUCH. Truth sure hurts! But that IS the truth....and I'm guessing the candidate doesn't MADem Sep 2015 #47
Indeed. nt DURHAM D Sep 2015 #50
Yep, and thus far every supposed damning revelation has fizzled out to nothing. stevenleser Sep 2015 #62
If your candidate wasn't so reckless at State, AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #65
"Your candidate"? George II Sep 2015 #86
Yes ... sad, sad state ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #103
We are LONG past the charade that some folks here support a liberal for president. randys1 Sep 2015 #141
I guess it's ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #101
I am glad you limited that to Sanders supporters and not Bernie himself. I agree that MANY randys1 Sep 2015 #134
Subpoenaed by Howdy Gowdy? Oh noes! It's over for Hillary! Metric System Sep 2015 #48
Amazing that on a progressive board some assume guilt if the 5th is taken. That is what a Kangaroo still_one Sep 2015 #55
Well, it is a progressive board, sort of. Designed to be but has MANY non liberals on it. randys1 Sep 2015 #135
You do realize there are many people who plead the fifth when testifying before Congress, and not still_one Sep 2015 #52
Given the cost of lawyers ... Babel_17 Sep 2015 #59
Curious as to why she used a campaign staffer to be her personal IT guy, and THEN TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #64
The answer to that may go all the way back to 'travelgate' HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #79
I thought you were joking bringing up "Travelgate." I should have known better. Metric System Sep 2015 #126
Travelgate really was the non-Arkansas public's first introduction to Clinton's and patronage HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #150
As would I. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #66
False, but I guess posting it gave you comfort anyway. merrily Sep 2015 #77
You wouldn't take the fifth in front of Trey Gowdy? nt msanthrope Sep 2015 #104
Of course she wouldn't ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #106
The 101st Chairborne are special ops keyboard warriors. nt msanthrope Sep 2015 #129
I was just told that being afraid you are being railroaded is not a reason you can claim randys1 Sep 2015 #137
people like that always made fantastic goddamn clients. msanthrope Sep 2015 #147
There is a word that often describes individuals who fail to follow an attorney's advice: OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #111
That is PATENTLY false ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #99
I meant everyone posting here does not need to avoid incriminating themselves. merrily Sep 2015 #113
Any competent attorney would offer this advice under the circumstances. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #115
Do you really want to plead the fifth for no earthly reason, then try to get certain kinds of jobs? merrily Sep 2015 #118
Bye. (n/t) OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #120
Before a Republican witch hunt/kangaroo court? You're damned right I would DonViejo Sep 2015 #136
No no no, right here on this thread i have been ASSURED you cant exercise that right randys1 Sep 2015 #138
Guess what? It is a nothingburger eridani Sep 2015 #70
Heartening to see respect for the rule of law. merrily Sep 2015 #78
What are you talking about? ... Respect for Rule of Law? 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #100
Yeah, that one's weird. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #119
DemocratSinceBirth, had the perfect response to this crap ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #122
He deserves an Attaboy for that one. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #125
Do they hate Women this much? What is the reason the HATE and BASHING of Hillary randys1 Sep 2015 #143
LOL ... n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #148
Drip, drip, drip! nt Romulox Sep 2015 #81
So Mr. Pagliano was subpoenaed by Trey Gowdy's Benghazi Committee with no input... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #84
And its sad that people here, who presumably are DEMOCRATS, are jumping on the Republican.... George II Sep 2015 #85
Cheryl Mills is testifying today. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #87
As a 40+ year Democrat, me too! And as of this morning her request has been denied. George II Sep 2015 #90
Hillary's 10/22 testimony is going to be a circus... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #92
It's going to give each republican member of the committee a soapbox on which... George II Sep 2015 #93
And later on 10/22, into 10/23 ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #96
Against you? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #95
"Presumably are DEMOCRATS"??? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #94
Gloating and if you confront them you are silenced as they seem to outnumber the randys1 Sep 2015 #144
Sigh. tymorial Sep 2015 #152
Gowdy and the GOP are on a witch hunt.... Adrahil Sep 2015 #88
Actually ... I would say this is a republican attempt to destroy the entire Democratic brand ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #97
Correct DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #102
Oh, Damn ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #105
Remember, Gowdy would have HATED the Ambassador who was killed. randys1 Sep 2015 #145
Don't care. kenfrequed Sep 2015 #112
I am not a Bernie supporter. I'm an O'Malley supporter. askew Sep 2015 #132
I have. kenfrequed Sep 2015 #133
Reporting this on CNN now ram2008 Sep 2015 #116
Your concern is noted. But I agree that Gowdy and company have made a mess of the Benghazi hearings Metric System Sep 2015 #124
The last paragraph is very telling Motown_Johnny Sep 2015 #131
Maybe he's the guy that wiped the server clean. morningfog Sep 2015 #139
shit gets real Hiraeth Sep 2015 #146
not sure what planet someone is on if, as SOS, they think it is acceptable to transact official Agony Sep 2015 #149
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