2016 Postmortem

WillyT

(72,631 posts) Fri Aug 28, 2015, 10:48 PM Aug 2015

Ya Know... The Whole Party Loyalty Thing Has Been A Lifelong Mystery To Me... [View all]

Most of my Aunts and Uncles, My Grandparents were mostly Republican...

Pretty sure money and taxes were involved...

My family was not.

But no matter what

My vote is just that... MY VOTE.

One tends to join and lend their vote to a group that has common goals.

Now I understand, that these days, the common goal is to make sure the Republicans do not...

Win the Presidency... Set The Supreme Court, etc. etc....

But I maintain that if ANYONE wants my vote... they have to earn it.

I OWE IT TO NONE.

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Ya Know... The Whole Party Loyalty Thing Has Been A Lifelong Mystery To Me... [View all] WillyT Aug 2015 OP

Read the party platforms Buzz cook Aug 2015 #1

Rhetoric is not policy. Garrett78 Aug 2015 #4

Me too. moobu2 Aug 2015 #46

Go to your local Democratic convention, regional or district. Buzz cook Aug 2015 #84

As I aged I thought more and more 840high Aug 2015 #2

That's your choice MohRokTah Aug 2015 #3

Just curioius...Suppose he joined the Democratic Party and won the primary? Armstead Aug 2015 #6

If he wins the primary I've got no choice MohRokTah Aug 2015 #7

Okay....just wanted to know if you were consistent Armstead Aug 2015 #9

After Bernie loses the GE, I'd have to reconsider my position with the party. MohRokTah Aug 2015 #10

"Far leftist" is all relative... Garrett78 Aug 2015 #11

Today's Democratic PArty is the most liberal party in American history. MohRokTah Aug 2015 #13

Based on what? Garrett78 Aug 2015 #17

Based upon EVERYTHING. eom MohRokTah Aug 2015 #18

To be fair, the Republicans have gone absolutely insane ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2015 #48

All of 'em frylock Aug 2015 #50

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #20

Nobody is putting a race in camps, like FDR did. MohRokTah Aug 2015 #22

Yes.. Of Course... We Must Be Both Practical And Pragmatic... And Those That We Want To Vote For Us WillyT Aug 2015 #24

That's how US national politics work BY DESIGN. MohRokTah Aug 2015 #26

And THAT Is What Bernie Sanders, Wolf-PAC, And Others Are Trying To Do... WillyT Aug 2015 #34

Then I oppose them. eom MohRokTah Aug 2015 #39

You're opposed to wolf-pac? Why? Nt. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #56

Kaufman lives apparently. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #57

FDR also brought us the New Deal Garrett78 Aug 2015 #63

That's ridiculous. Scuba Aug 2015 #67

And the far left refuses to admit it. eom MohRokTah Aug 2015 #69

Lol. You could follow the lifelong Democrats who were turning over black kids school buses in '71 jtuck004 Aug 2015 #45

These days "far left" is thinking that the New Deal was a good idea eridani Aug 2015 #60

Good Thing You're A Good Thinker With Your Franchise... WillyT Aug 2015 #14

Unequivocably yes. MohRokTah Aug 2015 #16

Sorry... Cannot Do That... WillyT Aug 2015 #19

It;s good to know you are no Democrat. eom MohRokTah Aug 2015 #27

You're Correct... I'm An American... And A Voter... WillyT Aug 2015 #28

Which means on many issues, you and I cannot be political allies. MohRokTah Aug 2015 #29

Hatred ??? - So You Hate A Voter's Franchise ??? WillyT Aug 2015 #30

You hate my party. MohRokTah Aug 2015 #31

I've Voted Straight Democrat Since Jerry Brown For CA Governor On 1974 When I Turned 18 WillyT Aug 2015 #35

I have no reason to believe a word you say after the outright... MohRokTah Aug 2015 #37

No... You Don't... And I Couldn't Care Less WillyT Aug 2015 #40

Wow. That was some Jonestown-level commitment there.. frylock Aug 2015 #54

Yeah... Huh... WillyT Aug 2015 #55

Your party? Didn't you just state that if we lost this election you would switch parties? Live and Learn Aug 2015 #36

I stated I would have to reconsider my position... MohRokTah Aug 2015 #38

And join the Republican party and try to change it from the inside, no? Live and Learn Aug 2015 #41

The Democratic Party would be dead and buried after such a debacle. eom MohRokTah Aug 2015 #73

Many of us have already reached the point where we reconsidered our position in Autumn Aug 2015 #71

I would only do so if a non-Democrat is nominated MohRokTah Aug 2015 #74

Once again, it would be impossible for him to register as a Democra in Vermont. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #76

HE has never been a Democrat. MohRokTah Aug 2015 #77

Since his critique of the party comes from the left... Garrett78 Aug 2015 #79

When Bush was awarded the presidency by a corrupt supreme court and the Autumn Aug 2015 #78

But you'd work for Zell Miller or Joe Lieberman. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #83

The Democratic Party is not homogeneous Garrett78 Aug 2015 #64

But, what? Lordquinton Aug 2015 #44

So you would never vote for someone from Vermont? Live and Learn Aug 2015 #42

yayyy team frylock Aug 2015 #51

I still vote for common goals. KMOD Aug 2015 #5

I am SO there! Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #8

:fistbump: WillyT Aug 2015 #25

LTH...ditto to writing in the Proggressive candidate... SoapBox Aug 2015 #32

i like my democrats. god, i would love to live around democrats. i will keep my dems. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #12

I like and love many Democrats, as well. Garrett78 Aug 2015 #15

things have gotten to point where our votes don't matter as much as they used to olddots Aug 2015 #21

They love party over policy PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #23

Party loyalty keeps us divided, issues do matter ... they have to earn my vote ... slipslidingaway Aug 2015 #33

I don't vote for labels. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #43

It's no mystery to me WillyT zeemike Aug 2015 #47

+ 1,000,000,000 - What You Said !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #53

party loyalty if you look after the democratic party it will look after you captainarizona Aug 2015 #49

I've been saying that for years. Fuddnik Aug 2015 #52

The party sure hasn't been loyal to us the people jfern Aug 2015 #58

I learned the hard way that when it comes to doctors & attorneys, senz Aug 2015 #59

The primary function of any political party is to seek power. sibelian Aug 2015 #61

Why can't you be true? Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #62

The party that supports a Catfood Commission/Gang of Six CharlotteVale Aug 2015 #65

So if your primary candidate loses, you will help turn the country over to Donald Trump or Squinch Aug 2015 #66

To me it's about policy, not team colors. Scuba Aug 2015 #68

I was a proud yellow dog. Jamie Dimon on the Senate floor whipping votes Autumn Aug 2015 #70

successful politics involves building coalitions and reconciling differences bigtree Aug 2015 #72

As a boomer and Vietnam vet what I've notived is the rise of 'independents' HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #75

I know. LWolf Aug 2015 #80

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #81

I'd never vote for a freaking Republican nor even imply that such was an option. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #82