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Zorra

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Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:42 PM Aug 2015

DLC's PNAC Document - Hillary Clinton On America's Strategy [View all]

From the Council on Foreign Relations' publication.

BY HILLARY CLINTON | NOVEMBER 2011

As the war in Iraq winds down and America begins to withdraw its forces from Afghanistan, the United States stands at a pivot point. Over the last 10 years, we have allocated immense resources to those two theaters. In the next 10 years, we need to be smart and systematic about where we invest time and energy, so that we put ourselves in the best position to sustain our leadership, secure our interests, and advance our values. One of the most important tasks of American statecraft over the next decade will therefore be to lock in a substantially increased investment -- diplomatic, economic, strategic, and otherwise -- in the Asia-Pacific region.
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t a time when the region is building a more mature security and economic architecture to promote stability and prosperity, U.S. commitment there is essential. It will help build that architecture and pay dividends for continued American leadership well into this century, just as our post-World War II commitment to building a comprehensive and lasting transatlantic network of institutions and relationships has paid off many times over -- and continues to do so. The time has come for the United States to make similar investments as a Pacific power, a strategic course set by President Barack Obama from the outset of his administration and one that is already yielding benefits.

With Iraq and Afghanistan still in transition and serious economic challenges in our own country, there are those on the American political scene who are calling for us not to reposition, but to come home. They seek a downsizing of our foreign engagement in favor of our pressing domestic priorities. These impulses are understandable, but they are misguided. Those who say that we can no longer afford to engage with the world have it exactly backward -- we cannot afford not to. From opening new markets for American businesses to curbing nuclear proliferation to keeping the sea lanes free for commerce and navigation, our work abroad holds the key to our prosperity and security at home. For more than six decades, the United States has resisted the gravitational pull of these "come home" debates and the implicit zero-sum logic of these arguments. We must do so again.
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We are also making progress on the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), which will bring together economies from across the Pacific -- developed and developing alike -- into a single trading community. Our goal is to create not just more growth, but better growth. We believe trade agreements need to include strong protections for workers, the environment, intellectual property, and innovation. They should also promote the free flow of information technology and the spread of green technology, as well as the coherence of our regulatory system and the efficiency of supply chains. Ultimately, our progress will be measured by the quality of people's lives -- whether men and women can work in dignity, earn a decent wage, raise healthy families, educate their children, and take hold of the opportunities to improve their own and the next generation's fortunes. Our hope is that a TPP agreement with high standards can serve as a benchmark for future agreements -- and grow to serve as a platform for broader regional interaction and eventually a free trade area of the Asia-Pacific.

http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2012/09/dlcs-pnac-document-hillary-clinton-americas-strategy


From SwampRat in 2008: Does Hillary Clinton support the neoconservative manifesto the Project for the New American Century?

Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 02:26 PM
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Does Hillary Clinton support the neoconservative manifesto the Project for the New American Century?

Before you vote for Hillary Clinton, please consider the following:

Research Questions:

Does Hillary Clinton support the neoconservative manifesto the Project for the New American Century (PNAC)?

Will electing her to be the President of the United States not only enable the destruction of the Democratic Party, but will it also damage the U.S. Government for generations, if not forever, thus transforming it into a permanent police state or empire?

Data:

1. Hillary Clinton is a team leader of the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC).

2. Hillary Clinton praised the work of DLC and Progressive Policy Institute (PPI) founders, specifically with regard to their work in transforming the Democratic Party in the manner in which they proscribed (see below).

3-5. The founders of the DLC and PPI are members of or ideologically associated with PNAC; These DLC founders want to transform the Democratic Party, making it compatible with neo-liberalism/neo-conservatism.

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1. Hillary Clinton is a DLC team leader:

The DLC Leadership Team
http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ka.cfm?kaid=137

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2. Hillary Clinton praises the work of Will Marshall and Al From, among others:


DLC | Speech | July 26, 2005
Remarks of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton to the 2005 DLC National Conversation

(snip)

"So I would like to start by thanking Al From and Will Marshall, Bruce Reed, and all of the people at the DLC and the PPI, not only for the rich legacy of your ideas, which have helped to transform our party and reinvigorate our country, but for your determination to stay focused on the future, laying the groundwork for the next great era of Democratic leadership."

(snip)

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=137&subid=900111&co...

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The co-founder of the DLC is a member of PNAC: Will Marshall

3. Will Marshall:
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1295

(snip)

With Al From, in 1985 Marshall cofounded the DLC, an important bastion of center-right Democrats that was once chaired by Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-CT). In 1989, Marshall founded the PPI, a think tank that is affiliated with the DLC. Both organizations are sometimes described as neoconservative for their foreign policy positions. In an analysis of the two groups' stance on the Israeli offensive against Hezbollah in summer 2006, Tom Barry wrote: "In practice, though, DLC/PPI positions differ little from that of the Bush administration. As Israel rained bombs down on Lebanon, the DLC's New Dem Dispatch echoed the neoconservative camp in its plea for the Bush administration to avoid the supposed shame of appeasement in the Middle East. Adopting the same line taken by the Bush administration and the Israeli government, the newsletter recommended that the war be taken to Tehran and Damascus, which 'have become clear threats to regional and world peace, and must be isolated and sanctioned, not appeased.'"

(snip)

Marshall was one of 15 analysts who co-wrote the PPI's October 2003 foreign policy blueprint, "Progressive Internationalism: A Democratic National Security Strategy." Using language that closely mirrors that of the neoconservative-led Project for the New American Century (PNAC), the PPI hailed the "tough-minded internationalism" of past Democratic presidents such as Harry Truman. Like PNAC, which in its founding statement warned of grave present dangers confronting America, the PPI strategy declared that, "Today America is threatened once again" and is in need of assertive individuals committed to strong leadership. The authors' observation that, "like the Cold War, the struggle we face today is likely to last not years but decades," echoes both neoconservative and Bush administration national security assessments. As the "Progressive Internationalism" authors explain, the PPI endorsed the invasion of Iraq "because the previous policy of containment was failing, because Saddam posed a grave danger to America as well as to his own brutalized people, and because his blatant defiance of more than a decade's worth of UN Security Council resolutions was undermining both collective security and international law."

(snip)

Although Marshall calls himself a "centrist," he has associated himself with neoconservative organizations and their radical foreign policy agendas. At the onset of the Iraq invasion, Marshall signed statements issued by the Project for the New American Century calling for the removal of Saddam Hussein, advocating that NATO help "secure and destroy all of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction," and arguing that the invasion "can contribute decisively to the democratization of the Middle East."

Marshall's credentials as a liberal hawk have been well established by his affinity for other PNAC-associated groups, including the U.S. Committee on NATO and the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq. Marshall served on the board of directors of the U.S. Committee on NATO alongside such leading neoconservative figures as Robert Kagan, Richard Perle, Randy Scheunemann, Paul Wolfowitz, Stephen Hadley, Peter Rodman, Jeffrey Gedmin, Gary Schmitt, and the committee's founder and president Bruce Jackson. At the request of the Bush administration, Jackson also formed the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, which, with former DLC chairman Joseph Lieberman serving as co-chair with Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), aimed to build bipartisan support for the liberation, occupation, and democratization of Iraq. Marshall, together with former Democratic Sen. Robert Kerrey of Nebraska (who coauthored "Progressive Internationalism&quot , represented the liberal hawk wing of the Democratic Party on the committee's neocon-dominated advisory board. Other advisers included James Woolsey, Eliot Cohen, Newt Gingrich, William Kristol, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Joshua Muravchik, Chris Williams, and Richard Perle.

On February 25, 2003, Marshall joined an array of neoconservatives marshaled by the Social Democrats/USA (SD/USA)—a wellspring of neoconservative strategy—to sign a letter to Bush calling for the invasion of Iraq. Marshall and others asked the president to "act alone if that proves necessary" and then, as a follow-up to a military-induced regime change in Iraq, to implement a democratization plan. The SD/USA letter urged the president to commit his administration to "maintaining substantial U.S. military forces in Iraq for as long as may be required to ensure a stable, representative regime is in place and functioning." Others signing the SD/USA letter included Jackson, Kagan, Woolsey, Hillel Fradkin, Rachelle Horowitz, Penn Kemble, Nina Shea, Michael Novak, Clifford May, and Ben Wattenberg.

(snip)

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1295

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http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1463

4. Democratic Leadership Council

(snip)

The DLC was established in the wake of President Ronald Reagan's 1984 landslide victory, in which he won 49 states, over Democrat Walter Mondale. During the Democratic convention in San Francisco, Mondale had successfully beat back a challenge from Gary Hart, who predicted that unless the Democratic Party adopted a new image it would be decisively defeated. Mondale proved unable to respond effectively to charges from the Republican right and neoconservative Democrats that the Democratic Party was the party of progressives-which Jeane Kirkpatrick variously labeled as the "San Francisco Democrats" and the "blame America first" Democrats-who were out of touch with mainstream America. As Dan Balz and Ronald Brownstein concluded in their book Storming the Gates, "Mondale's landslide defeat exposed as a dead end the vision of regaining the White House by mobilizing an army of the disaffected with a message of unreconstructed liberalism."

Pondering the Mondale defeat, a gathering coalition of Southern Democrats and northern neoliberals expressed concerns that the Democratic Party faced extinction, particularly in the South and West, if the party continued to rely on its New Deal message of government intervention and kept catering to traditional constituencies of labor, minorities, and anti-war progressives. In 1985, Al From, an aide to Rep. Gillis Long (D-LA), took the lead in formulating a new messaging strategy for the party's centrists, neoliberals, and conservatives. Will Marshall, at that time Long's policy analyst and speechwriter, worked closely with From to establish the DLC and then became its first policy director.

In his "Saving the Democratic Party" memo of January 1985, From advocated the formation of a "governing council" that would draft a "blueprint" for reforming the party. According to From, the new leadership should aim to create distance from "the new bosses"-organized labor, feminists, and other progressive constituency groups-that were keeping the party from modernizing. From's memo sparked the formation of the Democratic Leadership Council in early 1985. According to Balz and Brownstein, "Within a few weeks, it counted 75 members, primarily governors and members of Congress, most of them from the Sunbelt, and almost all of them white; liberal critics instantly dubbed the group 'the white male caucus.'"
(snip)

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1463

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http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1534.html

5. Progressive Policy Institute

"Don't look now, but neoconservatism is making a comeback-and not among the Republicans who have made it famous, but in the Democratic Party," declared writer Jacob Heilbrunn in a May 28, 2006 op-ed for the Los Angeles Times. In "Neocons in the Democratic Party," Heilbrunn argued that a new generation of Democratic "pundits and young national security experts" are trying to revive the Cold War precepts of President Harry S. Truman and apply them to the war on terror. "The fledgling neocons of the left are based at places such as the Progressive Policy Institute (PPI), whose president, Will Marshall, has just released a volume of doctrine called With All Our Might: A Progressive Strategy for Defeating Jihadism and Defending Liberty . Their political champions include Connecticut Sen. Joseph Lieberman and such likely presidential candidates as former Virginia Gov. Mark Warner and Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, who is chairman of the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC)."

(snip)

PPI, founded in 1989 by Marshall and Al From, is a project of the Third Way Foundation, a nonprofit 501(c)(3) organization. As the think tank for the Democratic Leadership Council, the PPI says its mission "arises from the belief that America is ill-served by an obsolete left-right debate that is out of step with the powerful forces reshaping our society and economy." PPI claims to advocate "a philosophy that adapts the progressive tradition in American politics to the realities of the information age and points to a 'third way' beyond the liberal impulse to defend the bureaucratic status quo and the conservative bid to simply dismantle government."

Marshall and From have long advocated for a "third way" in the political debate that consists of free-market principles that largely echo the right-wing platform, making their organization's name misleading. Indeed, one of PPI's five strategies includes "confronting global disorder by building enduring new international structures of economic and political freedom" (PPI Overview, June 1, 1998).

Marshall is president of the Third Way Foundation and of PPI, and From is the foundation's chairman. Paul Weinstein is the institute's chief operating officer. In fiscal 2004, Third Way board members included Linda Peek Schacht, Charles Alston, William Budinger, William Galston, and Susan Hothem, according to the IRS Form 990 provided at GuideStar.org. PPI staff includes Marshall, Steven Nider (expert in foreign and security studies), Michele Stockwell (education and social policy), David Kendall (health), Edward Gresser (trade), and Jan Mazurek (energy and environment). PPI senior fellows include Weinstein, Andrew Rotherham, Marshall Wittmann, and Fred Siegel. PPI operates on an annual budget approaching $3 million. Seymour Martin Lipset, a leading neoconservative political sociologist, is a former PPI board member, according to a 2002 report by Capital Research Center.

The core principles of the "third way movement" are set forth in the DLC/PPI's 1996 publication, The New Progressive Declaration: A Political Philosophy for the Information Age. As the New Democrats explain, the enduring progressive values must be adapted to the information age, which translates into policy recommendations that are very close to policies articulated by the administration of George W. Bush: uncompromising support for free market and free trade economics, a strong military with a global presence, an end to the politics of entitlement, rejection of affirmative action, and an embrace of competitive enterprise while at the same time rejecting a key role for government in development policy. Expressing the opinion of many progressive Democrats, Robert Kuttner, American Prospect editor, wrote that the political approach of the DLC amounts to "splitting the difference with a Republican administration" (American Prospect, July 7, 2002).

(snip)

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1534.html

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Conclusion:

You decide.

Will a vote for a PNAC-PPI-DLC candidate, not only enable the destruction of the Democratic Party, but will it also empower those who will continue to use our government, hence our good name, to commit and condone mass murder and theft on a global scale?

Should we support people who have openly stated they will reshape our democracy to conform to the mission principles of the PNAC manifesto?

Finally, will this lead to a permanent police state, governed by and for an elite ruling class, thus transforming the United States of America into an empire?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5222518

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K&R Scootaloo Aug 2015 #1
Yeah, she got a lot of splainin to do tularetom Aug 2015 #2
+ 1000 Well Put !!!!!!!!!! orpupilofnature57 Aug 2015 #54
The trade stuff is a bunch of B.S. which explains why unions are against it. n/t Skwmom Aug 2015 #125
That small group is irrelevant. We knew something had gone wrong with our party. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #176
Those of us who know about this don't understand why any Cleita Aug 2015 #3
Exactly. SoapBox Aug 2015 #7
In addition, I remember DLC being regarded as Republican Lite back Cleita Aug 2015 #14
Notice the right-wing and their media pundits never - never - criticize Hillary for this. Scuba Aug 2015 #67
I think there are at least two explanations. zeemike Aug 2015 #19
if all you care about, is a celebration party for donkey brand HFRN Aug 2015 #35
Yep, ignore policy and just root for the laundry, as Seinfeld put it. hifiguy Aug 2015 #65
Correct. 840high Aug 2015 #59
She's a neocon on foreign policy. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #133
Her record as SOS shows that and the fact that she considers Cleita Aug 2015 #134
Yep. That alone speaks volumes. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #135
People Need To Dig Deeper colsohlibgal Aug 2015 #4
Perhaps they work backwards from "I want Hillary" and filter accordingly. n/t winter is coming Aug 2015 #5
The Democratic Party has entered a period of "personality cult politics." Maedhros Aug 2015 #20
You nailed it. It's like a popularity contest and Hillary is going to be Student Body President! jalan48 Aug 2015 #21
Yup. Maedhros Aug 2015 #22
HA! So right on. It was a very funny movie as well. jalan48 Aug 2015 #25
Yup - just spent a weekend with one of them erronis Aug 2015 #12
The problem is this: Maedhros Aug 2015 #24
You are right. Unfortunately. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #39
K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #6
Excellent post. Thanks for taking the time to put this together. Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #8
Hillary Clinton will never be the President of these United States of America madokie Aug 2015 #9
I agree. Too many Democrats I know have an Cleita Aug 2015 #26
Perhaps, but at this point in time the polls seem to disagree with that statement still_one Aug 2015 #27
If Hillary Clinton is never president, then history NYCButterfinger Aug 2015 #40
I wanted her to run that year... John Poet Sep 2015 #152
It's dangerous to be so certain. This is not a "done deal." senz Aug 2015 #98
I agree with you. Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #123
Thats how it will be spun no doubt madokie Aug 2015 #132
Yup, madokie Oct 2015 #175
plain,simple, and right on. nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #172
+ trillions dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #10
+ 1 senz Aug 2015 #99
+ 1,000,000 cantbeserious Sep 2015 #155
Well...there we have it. Hillary Clinton: "There are Those Who Would" -- "Those Who Say" KoKo Aug 2015 #11
Funny how we're the only country who needs a global military presence just for "opening new markets" arcane1 Aug 2015 #55
Good Point... KoKo Aug 2015 #62
It's not about selling products, which is what the Chinese focus on. hifiguy Aug 2015 #64
^^^BINGO! arcane1 Aug 2015 #70
You hit the nail on the head passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #86
Mic drop. blackspade Aug 2015 #107
Our relationship with China is unique. They treat us like a colony. We provide them the raw rhett o rick Aug 2015 #74
The U.S. Armed Forces are serving as mercenaries for China? oasis Aug 2015 #76
That's what you are adding to the conversation? I hope your emoticon rhett o rick Aug 2015 #81
nope, no rudeness intended. I was waiting for an expanded oasis Aug 2015 #84
The analogy to mercenaries is a valid comparison hueymahl Aug 2015 #89
Rather interested to read the reply. nt msanthrope Sep 2015 #154
And who the hell is trying to close off the sea lanes? Ken Burch Aug 2015 #79
Dar. He's a clever bugger, that one. Zorra Aug 2015 #82
Kick! nt. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #13
What's the point of posting 3-4 year old "stuff" (cleaned up for mixed audiences!) now? George II Aug 2015 #15
Quite obvious, isn't it? a leopard doesn't change its spots Roland99 Aug 2015 #17
+1 azurnoir Aug 2015 #23
leopards may not change their spots, but cheetos sometimes change their flavor nt HFRN Aug 2015 #37
only going from baked to fried Roland99 Aug 2015 #114
This post needs a theme song... zeemike Aug 2015 #29
Oh has she evolved? ibegurpard Aug 2015 #31
Better to evolve (why is that in quotes??) than to still be living in the '60s. George II Aug 2015 #48
Because the 60s was 3 years ago. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #60
We are living in the 60s Kelvin Mace Aug 2015 #101
on issues of *substance*, 3-4 years old is nothing HFRN Aug 2015 #36
3 to 4 years ibegurpard Aug 2015 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author Armstead Aug 2015 #44
Do you think Hillary has "evolved" on foreign policy like she has on so many other issues? JDPriestly Aug 2015 #45
It's totally UNFAIR to compare her to a chameleon. Chameleon don't change their accent arcane1 Aug 2015 #57
I'm sure most voters used Obama's first term to judge whether to give him a 2nd term. arcane1 Aug 2015 #56
Heck, why even post what she said a month ago whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #128
K&R n/t Michigan-Arizona Aug 2015 #16
K&R; This is serious stuff. Hillary has revealed herself time and time again. stillwaiting Aug 2015 #18
Kissinger must be SO PROUD of his hifiguy Aug 2015 #28
K&R CharlotteVale Aug 2015 #30
Yawn ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #32
Time to wake up Android3.14 Aug 2015 #95
They won't, Kelvin Mace Aug 2015 #102
That is all you have, "Yawn"? -none Aug 2015 #104
Facts are stubborn things, hifiguy Aug 2015 #117
Her splendid credentials: Neoliberal & Neocon HFRN Aug 2015 #33
Supporter of trade bills, H-1b visas and outsourcing HFRN Aug 2015 #34
This is a keeper article. zentrum Aug 2015 #38
The Thatcher Effect. hifiguy Aug 2015 #49
That's my big worry too. n/t zentrum Aug 2015 #66
I'm bookmarking this puppy. Thanks for posting, indeed. Purveyor Aug 2015 #41
Never. Never. Ever. FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #42
I also. NEVER. hifiguy Aug 2015 #50
OKAY I clicked the links and this is not there Armstead Aug 2015 #43
Found the Hillary article here: Purveyor Aug 2015 #53
Thanks for saving me more work, Purveyor! Zorra Aug 2015 #58
I found it via a text search: Aerows Aug 2015 #61
K&R and bookmarking - Excellent post n/t udbcrzy2 Aug 2015 #46
Kicked and recommended! The American people have been abused enough. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #47
"They sure as shit haven't!!! hifiguy Aug 2015 #51
+1 Enthusiast Aug 2015 #63
Enjoy that fuzzy Feeling . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2015 #52
America’s Pacific Century BlueStateLib Aug 2015 #69
False. The OP did not in any way, shape, or form, imply that Will Marshall Zorra Aug 2015 #71
"March 25, 2002, Seventy-Two Percent of Americans Support War Against Iraq" blackspade Aug 2015 #109
In a few months Hillary will be the Democratic nominee... onehandle Aug 2015 #72
You old party pooper you. oasis Aug 2015 #73
If that's so, you and others will have a hayday banning people. I guess that's your happiness. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #75
+10000 nashville_brook Aug 2015 #91
Add my approval of the post also. -none Aug 2015 #105
plus a million. nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #171
So you'd embrace JackInGreen Aug 2015 #77
... Zorra Aug 2015 #78
What's bullshit about it? Ken Burch Aug 2015 #80
Why would we be banned for questioning a candidate's past record on issues? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #87
Imagine that. Democrats who care about democracy. raouldukelives Aug 2015 #90
That sounds like you just want to get revenge on anyone who doesn't back Hillary. senz Aug 2015 #100
In the school yard there were always those that chose to stand behind the biggest bully. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #108
Gee, I always thought that was a Republican trait. nt senz Aug 2015 #113
It would be nice if the only bad politicians were Republicons. But to think such, rhett o rick Aug 2015 #116
Indeed. senz Aug 2015 #119
Welcome to DU rhett o rick Aug 2015 #120
Thanks, rhett o rick. senz Aug 2015 #121
If that happens, enjoy your gloating blackspade Aug 2015 #110
The voting does not start for 5 months Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #127
Once again, a Hillary supporter having a fit because people dared post LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #137
Not much different then Bernie supporters being upset about folks criticizing his Brady Bill vote still_one Oct 2015 #177
Are you saying that we won't be able to question or criticize the candidate? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #169
They've been asking over and over who will support Clinton if nominated. They are keeping a list and rhett o rick Oct 2015 #174
thank you! Humongous big K and R! bbgrunt Aug 2015 #83
Boy that Swamprat thread is full of goodies Ichingcarpenter Aug 2015 #85
Yeah it is. I plan to copy and paste in case it all gets scrubbed. Zorra Aug 2015 #118
I miss Swampy n2doc Aug 2015 #88
But, but .. Hillary now says she wants to 'wait & see" about TPP? 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #92
k and r nashville_brook Aug 2015 #93
Cleanup in aisle GD P. L0oniX Aug 2015 #94
So according to HRC, it's no longer about defense. It's about corporate well-being. senz Aug 2015 #96
What happened to PNAC's website? senz Aug 2015 #97
It's gone. Try this: Zorra Aug 2015 #103
Thanks, Zorra. Wonder why they took it down? The Neil Mackay article senz Aug 2015 #111
It lives on at the wayback machine nationalize the fed Sep 2015 #158
Thanks, nationalize the fed. I'd forgotten about the wayback machine. senz Sep 2015 #161
Must read, in all it's depressing glory. blackspade Aug 2015 #106
Hillary Clinton was writing this in her capacity as Secretary of State moobu2 Aug 2015 #112
Then why did she criticise her President in it? senz Aug 2015 #115
We are told that she got her foreign policy credentials as SOS - and now she was just djean111 Aug 2015 #130
^ Zorra Aug 2015 #122
Bumping your own month old thread. onehandle Aug 2015 #143
This enormous elephant in the room makes people uncomfortable, I get it. Zorra Sep 2015 #147
DO It ! John Poet Sep 2015 #153
Swamp Rat pictures collection: www.seedsofdoubt.com/distressedamerican/swamprat.htm L0oniX Sep 2015 #160
Oh, we need to keep this baby kicked! Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #124
Is there a reason no comment on the misleading description of the TPP - Strong worker protections, Skwmom Aug 2015 #126
The really stinky part: "coherence of our regulatory system and the efficiency of supply chains" Armstead Aug 2015 #136
So they are trying to get around worker safety and environmental standards, etc. But the way it is Skwmom Aug 2015 #142
Thank you for putting this together, I'll read at length later. Avalux Aug 2015 #129
Hillary came out early to support Obama and Kerry on Iran --- the single biggest change in US policy karynnj Aug 2015 #131
It has often been noted that she says whatever is expedient for her political interests Zorra Aug 2015 #138
However, Iran is more recent, and long before the way the wind was blowing was obvious. karynnj Aug 2015 #139
Millions of progressives knew immediately that Bush was lying. Zorra Aug 2015 #140
Yes, we know she "evolved." From attacking Obama from the right on foreign policy eridani Sep 2015 #151
K&R azmom Aug 2015 #141
Yawn ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #144
Nah, I'm not ready to let this sink. Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #145
~140 replies, and NOT A SINGLE ANSWER to counter the charges in the OP DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #146
but, but, but...she's FEMALE. It's her turn! nt antigop Sep 2015 #148
^ Zorra Sep 2015 #149
Because endless war and loss of well-paying jobs are GOOD for women eridani Sep 2015 #150
She's a neolib. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #156
she just wants to be president olddots Sep 2015 #157
It is going to be very hard to clean up aisle GD-P. Please repeat this op often. L0oniX Sep 2015 #159
HAPPY LABOR DAY!!! Zorra Sep 2015 #162
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #163
^ Zorra Sep 2015 #164
^ Zorra Sep 2015 #165
... Purveyor Sep 2015 #166
What does she mean by 'leadership'? Do other countries view US as THEIR leaders? Not in any sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #167
^ Zorra Oct 2015 #168
Thank you. Another thread to trash. leftofcool Oct 2015 #170
A thread with enough cobwebs to decorate Trump Tower on halloween. oasis Oct 2015 #173
Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Oct 2015 #178
^ Zorra Oct 2015 #179
Reminder kick Zorra Oct 2015 #180
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