2016 Postmortem

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts) Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:33 PM Jul 2015

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Cover on Time Magazine: This is what Oligarchy looks like [View all]

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Or is it Dynasty? Or both.

George W Bush and Bill Clinton have revealed how they started to grow close, to the point where Bush has taken to calling his Democratic predecessor his “brother from another mother”.

Clinton began working with Bush’s father, President George HW Bush, in the aftermath of the 2004 Asian tsunami. The two continued such fundraising work after Hurricane Katrina and a relationship was born. If that meant that one Bush became a surrogate father to Clinton, the other became a surrogate brother.

In an interview with Time magazine, the two ex-presidents weighed in on the 2016 election – in which it is possible Clinton’s wife, Hillary, could face Bush’s brother, Jeb.

In Bush’s analysis of such contests, “there’s kind of a general pattern”. The 43rd president added: “There will be flashes in the pans, there will be this crisis, there will be the funding thing. There will be all these things that happen, but eventually the person who can best lead their party will be nominated.”

The two also talked about the need for bipartisanship.

More: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/23/bill-clinton-george-w-bush-friends-2016-elections

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Cover on Time Magazine: This is what Oligarchy looks like [View all] 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 OP

Duping American Citizens Daily - So Glad That HRC Was Well Trained cantbeserious Jul 2015 #1

They Have a Worked Together Since 1980 billhicks76 Jul 2015 #111

Yeah, that'll help Hillary. -none Jul 2015 #2

It's a NEW WORLD ORDER, folks! Step right on up! PatrickforO Jul 2015 #3

God I fucking hate GWB's shitty smirking face. cyberswede Jul 2015 #4

I hear ya. John Poet Jul 2015 #6

can't exactly say "my pleasure", but you are most welcome cyberswede. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #7

Yes it is somewhat painful, but DeeDeeNY Jul 2015 #45

it is amazing my tv survived restorefreedom Jul 2015 #52

ugh, he's starting to look like Poppy MisterP Jul 2015 #32

Did not know Bush was... Mike Nelson Jul 2015 #5

He isn't. He's shorter if anything. eom John Poet Jul 2015 #8

all the living Presidents, maybe 2009? irisblue Jul 2015 #83

The best stuff does come in small packages. chknltl Jul 2015 #97

That Picture, Like the OP, Evokes a Very Strong Gag Reflex The Roux Comes First Jul 2015 #139

Good catch on the height thing. I think you're correct. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #9

Looking at Clinton's hips, it almost appears that he may be Marie Marie Jul 2015 #11

I agree. Bill's sitting or leaning into the Shrub. ew. -nt- 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #15

Clinton is sitting True Blue American Jul 2015 #74

Bush looks mush better in this pic than Clinton - on purpose, I believe. tecelote Jul 2015 #85

he's not. This is the same magazine ericson00 Jul 2015 #12

Do you know anything about Bush, other than the image presented sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #18

ummm I know a lot about the Bushes ericson00 Jul 2015 #19

He is hated everywhere, and for good reason. The Bush administration sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #21

Carter didn't broker Camp David, ericson00 Jul 2015 #24

Carter awarded Nobel Peace Prize for Camp David accords. Divernan Jul 2015 #37

Thank you True Blue American Jul 2015 #90

Carter True Blue American Jul 2015 #89

You may know a lot... Cheviteau Jul 2015 #98

Yes! haikugal Jul 2015 #26

Thank you True Blue American Jul 2015 #75

That has to be the most twisted post I've ever seen on DU. Fuddnik Jul 2015 #91

height privilege 6chars Jul 2015 #38

Clinton is 6'2" and Unknown Beatle Jul 2015 #43

Game of Thrones- Full pic ram2008 Jul 2015 #10

Thanks,, that is helpful. ^ nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #13

"I'm not going to stop the wheel. I'm going to break the wheel." Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #31

And it really is a game to the media tazkcmo Jul 2015 #67

* Fuddnik Jul 2015 #92

It's a small club and we ain't in it! Which is why I joined Bernie's club sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #14

+1 840high Jul 2015 #16

Me too. nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #22

I'm with you... Thespian2 Jul 2015 #122

+10000000000 azmom Jul 2015 #152

Man, could they just rub it in our faces some more? Hydra Jul 2015 #17

Well, that coziness should be enough sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #20

Some of the comments I see most from people everywhere involve sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #25

The need for bipartisanship??? Lol, here we go again! sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #23

I couldn't have said it better myself. Unknown Beatle Jul 2015 #44

Maybe Hillary will give shrub a cabinet position whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #27

Oh Gawd! SoapBox Jul 2015 #28

How true-with the same families vying to run the show again. jalan48 Jul 2015 #29

Sickening! And now Hillary????? JDPriestly Jul 2015 #30

well said. nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #53

Thank you. Very well put. -nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #101

Is Clinton actively trying to ruin his wife's chances in the primaries. Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #33

I think the issue may be that NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #47

TIME is Republican--the deal here is to burnish Jeb! by association.... nt MADem Jul 2015 #55

Ohhhw, it's the other way around. Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #64

They want Democrats who hate women to vote for Jeb! MADem Jul 2015 #66

I see. What will they do when Sanders wins the nomination (against the odds)? Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #141

If he won the nomination, there's a host of stuff they could go after him with. MADem Jul 2015 #142

Haters gonna hate ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #34

Proud Member of the Reality Based Community WillyT Jul 2015 #35

Indeed.. ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #36

You know whats sad? bunnies Jul 2015 #58

+thewholekitandkaboodle n/t whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #65

Oh I'd never do that ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #80

Calling DUers ignorant gets you alerted on? bunnies Jul 2015 #81

More like saying "Bernie isn't going to win, the polls prove it" ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #114

No, you're not. WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #147

People who really belong to the Reality Based Community... bvar22 Jul 2015 #109

Your response was perfect dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #40

+1 MissDeeds Jul 2015 #68

It's just a guy in a small boat, fishing in lake DU. delrem Jul 2015 #128

You keep telling yourself your silly little stories ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #140

Since your so-called "reality" is hawking this "inevitable" Dynasty, count me out. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #60

The willfully blind ain't gonna see Reality Martin Eden Jul 2015 #73

Ostriches Will Be Ostriches billhicks76 Jul 2015 #112

At least we know Barbara Bush will be happy whoever wins a Bush v. Clinton race Dems to Win Jul 2015 #39

They go way back, the Clintons and Bushes .... Scuba Jul 2015 #41

Bill Clinton said he and Bush would go on a diplomatic mission if Hillary elected Ichingcarpenter Jul 2015 #49

Wow I didn't realize they went back THAT far. -nt- 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #57

Oh yah, they're tight as tight can be. delrem Jul 2015 #129

So much for Clinton's "humble upbringing" that's touted here on DU -nt- 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #130

He sure doesn't look "humble" in that pic! delrem Jul 2015 #132

that is just gross irisblue Jul 2015 #86

Now, that's priceless! Fuddnik Jul 2015 #93

Yes, the infamous die-hard racist, George Wallace 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #133

I have never seen that photo. wilsonbooks Jul 2015 #123

That is indeed Governor Wallace. Scuba Jul 2015 #143

Birds of a feather. CharlotteVale Jul 2015 #42

320 million people in this country, and we are allowed 2 candidates . . . hatrack Jul 2015 #46

The elephant in the room has been noted Babel_17 Jul 2015 #48

There are none so blind. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #50

Bush is an oligarch, Clinton is not. Darb Jul 2015 #51

If "Dynasty" works better for you, then go with that. -nt- 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #59

do you know what oligarch means? spqr78 Jul 2015 #78

Bill & Hillary are in fact part of the 1% - That's an Oligarch in my book 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #102

The Clintons have been adopted into the 1%, and more specifically the Bush Family Hydra Jul 2015 #82

And We the People & uppity 'Socialists' were not invited to this "party" -nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #119

I don't expect the Obamas to join them. delrem Jul 2015 #131

We'll see Hydra Jul 2015 #137

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!!!! nt SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #54

This nauseates me. n/t LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #56

This should help Sanders campaign Doctor_J Jul 2015 #61

Should have included Poppy, Jeb, and Hillary. The Oligarchs are becoming more daring. rhett o rick Jul 2015 #62

Great quote. Spot on. Thanks. -nt- 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #63

*lmao* Hydra Jul 2015 #87

The system isn't broken; the system is fixed. -nt CrispyQ Jul 2015 #69

+10 ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #124

The Clintons are a power couple, not an oligarchy perdita9 Jul 2015 #70

Bill And Hillary ARE part of the 1% actually 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #99

Those numbers represent $ they earned for themselves perdita9 Jul 2015 #148

Bush Crime Family & Clintons go WAY back 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #150

True awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #103

~ L0oniX Jul 2015 #71

Here's my gut reaction when GW Bush is treated with honor and respect ... Martin Eden Jul 2015 #72

That is more revolting, nauseating hifiguy Jul 2015 #76

What's even more revolting and nauseating is the importance some people put on all of this. George II Jul 2015 #94

Ah, shrubs new game: elder statesman!!! gag jomin41 Jul 2015 #77

I will say this much, that picture does NOT look good. For many reasons. AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #79

Bill Clinton is not a trust fund baby like Bush: He came from a poor state: lewebley3 Jul 2015 #84

lol Hydra Jul 2015 #88

Bill And Hillary ARE part of the 1% actually 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #100

Bill and Hillary worked there way into the 1%: They earned that money in public Service lewebley3 Jul 2015 #145

"If the Clintons were poor you'd call them losers" 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #149

Who cares what Carlin thought: The American people want Hillary lewebley3 Jul 2015 #151

WTF are you talking about?? 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #153

As Popeye used to say..... Fuddnik Jul 2015 #95

Popeye's slogan was hifiguy Jul 2015 #108

"meet the new boss" onethatcares Jul 2015 #96

Right-on onethatcares! 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #107

There is a 50 50 chance that Bill Clinton will screw it up for Hillary still_one Jul 2015 #104

I don't see how. delrem Jul 2015 #106

Sick and Wrong on SO many levels it defies description. It is all about the money and who keeps it. Ford_Prefect Jul 2015 #105

Beyond appalling nt zentrum Jul 2015 #110

This is why I don't like Bill Clinton. He just has to be liked by everybody and seems too willing to craigmatic Jul 2015 #113

It's not that he "has to be liked by everybody", delrem Jul 2015 #134

Oh I get that too but it's kind of a mute point when we're both on this site that supports democrats craigmatic Jul 2015 #156

I Can't Even Put Into Words How Disgusted This ChiciB1 Jul 2015 #115

I have to remind myself alot 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #125

Remember: even if against all $ and odds Bernie wins the primary, these fuckers will be wreckers. delrem Jul 2015 #135

I hear you. I don't think I'm deluding myself, but you are right. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #138

Good advice. All we have to do is look azmom Jul 2015 #154

both heaven05 Jul 2015 #116

This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Jul 2015 #117

bush is a smirky, smarmy looking heaven05 Jul 2015 #118

They look the same. They're friends. Peas in a pod. They are the same. nt delrem Jul 2015 #136

oh I agree heaven05 Jul 2015 #146

Disgusting. Both of them. mahannah Jul 2015 #120

I'm gonna go buy a parrot and put him in a cage tularetom Jul 2015 #121

Billy Clinton: The Son Poppy always wanted PeoViejo Jul 2015 #126

Reminds me of this pic. Bill, Poppy & Geo. Wallace go way back. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #127

The look on Billy's face is precious. PeoViejo Jul 2015 #144

"America's corporate and political elites azmom Jul 2015 #155