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Sun Jun 17, 2012, 08:45 PM

42. You and I cannot/will not settle this. There's a thread in this very forum where an atty general...

explains that the president (constitutional scholar) is well within his rights. That's why we have courts, because people disagree.

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You know I hated it when Bush bypassed Congress [View all]	SoutherDem	Jun 2012	OP
It all boils down to you gotta do what ya gotta do. n/t	monmouth	Jun 2012	#1
I think that is what Obama concluded	siligut	Jun 2012	#3
There is a document that forbids him from doing that. We don't elect kings in the United States.	SlimJimmy	Jun 2012	#5
Obama taught Constitutional law	siligut	Jun 2012	#6
The President had two years with both houses of Congress to do this. Why didn't he?	SlimJimmy	Jun 2012	#7
Who do you think you are talking to?	siligut	Jun 2012	#9
Answer my question and I'll answer yours.	SlimJimmy	Jun 2012	#13
He did not have a majority for two years	siligut	Jun 2012	#18
Why did it take a back seat? I was in favor of the legislation, as were a majority of Democrats in	SlimJimmy	Jun 2012	#20
I answered your question. nt	siligut	Jun 2012	#21
And I answered yours. It wasn't politically favorable to do so at the time. Now the President	SlimJimmy	Jun 2012	#24
He has/had the Hispanic vote	siligut	Jun 2012	#26
What does the Catholic/Mormon comment have to do with what we're discussing? President Obama	SlimJimmy	Jun 2012	#28
Latinos tend to be Catholic	siligut	Jun 2012	#29
Obama believes in the law/Constitution	siligut	Jun 2012	#25
Thank you for putting that silly lie to rest. I hear it all the time on talk radio, and usually....	Tarheel_Dem	Jun 2012	#31
We need to change the constitution to allow four terms	BamaFanLee	Jun 2012	#27
"We don't elect kings"	GoCubsGo	Jun 2012	#11
Bush Jr tried to do immigration reform and he was stopped in the same manner.	SlimJimmy	Jun 2012	#14
Yes, I think Congress should work "as designed".	GoCubsGo	Jun 2012	#15
The majority has the option of changing the rules at the beginning of each session.	SlimJimmy	Jun 2012	#16
Yes, I know that.	GoCubsGo	Jun 2012	#19
Absolutely. The Founding Fathers never envisioned the use of a filibuster at all, let alone a 60	SlimJimmy	Jun 2012	#22
Lincoln is revered for doing so.	GeorgeGist	Jun 2012	#12
When Lincoln used the executive pen to suspend Habeus Corpus, he was reviled for it. Historians to	SlimJimmy	Jun 2012	#23
I care more about kids than I care about the abstract concept of law. nt	ZombieHorde	Jun 2012	#17
"Forbids"? Obviously, you're completely wrong, as he did it. And it's been done before.	Tarheel_Dem	Jun 2012	#30
I believe that's what they're going to do if the reports are correct.	SlimJimmy	Jun 2012	#32
That's fine. Let's have this debate, but you used the word "forbid", and that's simply not true. nt	Tarheel_Dem	Jun 2012	#33
The US Constitution does forbid the President from using executive orders to skirt Congress.	SlimJimmy	Jun 2012	#35
Where in the Constitution is that forbidden?	morningfog	Jun 2012	#36
When the President writes an executive order that directs a department to not enforce a law, then	SlimJimmy	Jun 2012	#39
Well said.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jun 2012	#43
You and I cannot/will not settle this. There's a thread in this very forum where an atty general...	Tarheel_Dem	Jun 2012	#42
I keep thinking	SoFlaJet	Jun 2012	#2
Congress doesn't want to do anything	high density	Jun 2012	#4
But, it's not quite the same in this case.	GoCubsGo	Jun 2012	#8
+1	DCBob	Jun 2012	#10
Totally true.	joshcryer	Jun 2012	#34
Filibuster had nothing to do with it...	rayofreason	Jun 2012	#37
I am sure no one here will complain...	rayofreason	Jun 2012	#38
They made the rules	GarroHorus	Jun 2012	#40
Congress gave Obama the authority under 8 U.S.C. § 1227	aint_no_life_nowhere	Jun 2012	#41
So after these "temporary stays," they will be rounded up and sent back to their countries?	AnotherMcIntosh	Jun 2012	#44
It happens all the time	aint_no_life_nowhere	Jun 2012	#45
No. This is the first time that a president has issued an executive order to prohibit enforcing	AnotherMcIntosh	Jun 2012	#46

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