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bravenak

(34,648 posts)
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 01:40 AM Jul 2015

The Challenge for White Liberals [View all]

Nancy LeTourneau




It’s relatively easy for liberals to recognize and call out the racism of conservatives. But the interaction between #BlackLivesMatter activists and Bernie Sanders has given us an opportunity to examine our own unique brand.

I’m not here to judge or support the manner in which these activists confronted Sanders. I’ll simply note that many of the people criticizing them are the ones who have celebrated the same tactics when used in other situations: Exhibit A.

As so often happens when these opportunities present themselves, I am reminded of something “Zuky” wrote way back in 2007 about the “white liberal conundrum.” I’d like to take a moment to review what he said because it captures many of the interactions I’m reading on social media lately.

First of all, let’s define what we’re talking about:

Anti-racism is a rewarding but grueling journey which must be consciously undertaken and intrepidly pursued (both inwardly and outwardly) if one hopes to make serious progress along its twisting passageways and steep inclines. There’s no static end-condition at which an anti-racist can arrive and definitively declare, “Hallelujah! I am Not A Racist!” Rather, it’s a lifelong process of historical education, vigilant self-interrogation, personal growth, and socio-political agitation.
Now, let’s look at the difference between conservative and liberal racism.

Some might be surprised to learn that when people of color talk about racism amongst ourselves, white liberals often receive a far harsher skewering than white conservatives or overt racists. Many of my POC friends would actually prefer to hang out with an Archie Bunker-type who spits flagrantly offensive opinions, rather than a colorblind liberal whose insidious paternalism, dehumanizing tokenism, and cognitive indoctrination ooze out between superficially progressive words. At least the former gives you something to work with, something above-board to engage and argue against; the latter tacitly insists on imposing and maintaining an illusion of non-racist moral purity which provides little to no room for genuine self-examination or racial dialogue.
Ouch! If that one didn’t sting a bit, you’re probably not paying attention.

What usually happens when we’re confronted about this?




http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2015_07/the_challenge_for_white_libera056674.php

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Immasmartypants? UNREC. WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #1
You could have just ignored it. It's about an article written in 2007. bravenak Jul 2015 #2
Her writing sucks... and that's just for starters. WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #3
Sweet dreams! bravenak Jul 2015 #4
Thanks! You too, whenever the time comes. WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #5
Now! bravenak Jul 2015 #6
In the same way that you don't wish to hear about Sanders' civil rights record... DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #7
Hmmm. You do not have to read anything I post. Nobody is trying to force you. bravenak Jul 2015 #8
I enjoy reading some of your posts. Others I disagree with. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #9
Certain people never really have to listen. bravenak Jul 2015 #10
I appreciate your response. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #17
Thank you. I think we are on the same side. bravenak Jul 2015 #18
a very uncomfortable thought DonCoquixote Jul 2015 #83
They feel like they did us a favor by voting for the black man and now we owe. bravenak Jul 2015 #86
nods DonCoquixote Jul 2015 #96
+1 840high Jul 2015 #11
"I’m not here to judge or support the manner in which these activists confronted Sanders. I’ll Cha Jul 2015 #12
It's a good article. bravenak Jul 2015 #13
Yes, it is and still holding true today, exponentially, around here. Cha Jul 2015 #14
It is a good article. calimary Jul 2015 #15
Colorblind sucks. bravenak Jul 2015 #16
^^^this. artislife Jul 2015 #97
K & R SunSeeker Jul 2015 #19
Holy Moly... Did this woman just see the front page of DU or what???! Number23 Jul 2015 #20
It is from an article from 2007. Been going on that long. In general. bravenak Jul 2015 #21
"It is from an article from 2007" Huh??? Number23 Jul 2015 #22
The good parts seem to be from the article. bravenak Jul 2015 #23
"Brutal in its honesty"? BillZBubb Jul 2015 #56
It was perfect. bravenak Jul 2015 #57
Perfect bullshit. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #65
I guess you put our UPPITY selves in our places!! bravenak Jul 2015 #66
Your comment makes no sense. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #67
You talk down to people. We cannot tell your tone but your words are cold and harsh and demanding. bravenak Jul 2015 #68
Perhaps, but I'm not talking down, I am reacting in anger to accusations I find offensive. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #70
Please calm down. You will find that we are quite awesome if you approach us like you like us. bravenak Jul 2015 #71
Who is we? BillZBubb Jul 2015 #73
Humans. bravenak Jul 2015 #75
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #106
Ain't none of them READ a damn word of it. bravenak Jul 2015 #107
It also points to exactly the problem you aren't seeing BainsBane Jul 2015 #81
Bullshit! BillZBubb Jul 2015 #94
You're right. I'm so sorry. All of these people trotting out Cornel West and cherry picked Number23 Jul 2015 #58
Again, it was a generalization and frankly bullshit. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #63
You sound angry and I don't blame you. I'd be angry too if my sole purpose for entering a Number23 Jul 2015 #69
Again you miss the point. The OP was a generalization about white liberals. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #72
I used to think that this behavior ONLY applied to the white "liberals" on DU Number23 Jul 2015 #80
Yes!nt bravenak Jul 2015 #89
BillZBubb. I have questions about your post: freshwest Jul 2015 #74
I read it. LWolf Jul 2015 #24
I missed this earlier. bravenak Jul 2015 #29
I haven't dealt with this kind of shit in a decade, LWolf Jul 2015 #37
What an excellent read ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #25
My eyes bugged out reading it. So apt. bravenak Jul 2015 #31
Excellent OP and article. k&r. nt sufrommich Jul 2015 #26
Ouch! That's got to smart! gollygee Jul 2015 #27
Racism is in the American DNA. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #28
Native americans are non white. bravenak Jul 2015 #30
Interesting about First People blood making one non-white. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #36
My mother's father was Cree. When I asked for some services for my kid, they tried to shunt us off freshwest Jul 2015 #84
My grandmother's people have lived in the Quebec/New Brunswick area for many centuries. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #95
My grandfater lived on the Redcliff Reservation artislife Jul 2015 #98
Interesting story. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #104
My people were in Alabama and Georgia where my grandfather lived with his second wife. freshwest Jul 2015 #99
Excellent points. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #105
My sense is that America belongs more to African Americans than any group but natives. freshwest Jul 2015 #108
What about actions from President Obama? He has TIME LEFT to do ACTION.... KoKo Jul 2015 #32
What does he have to do with it? Is this a find a black guy to blame for racism day? bravenak Jul 2015 #33
Everyday is "find a black guy to blame for racism day" bettyellen Jul 2015 #38
I hope they see after the buzz wears off that they were a FOOL at this party. bravenak Jul 2015 #43
I was amazed at the accusations of racism against BLM members- a whole bunch of people claimed they bettyellen Jul 2015 #45
I think they are blinded by the constant back patting they recieve from each other. bravenak Jul 2015 #49
What does this have to do with the OP? sufrommich Jul 2015 #34
This is a challenge for WHITE LIBERALS. Not for President Obama. He's BLACK. bravenak Jul 2015 #35
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #39
Which is black like my husband. I dare you to tell my husband he's not black to his face. bravenak Jul 2015 #40
What is inaccurate about it? Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #41
You are not black. You do not get to identify us. Obama says he's black. bravenak Jul 2015 #42
Since when am I a white dude? Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #44
Because black people NEVER tell hlaf black folks that that is not black. Never. bravenak Jul 2015 #47
So where does the "white" come from? Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #50
If you were the word mulatto would have never slipped out. bravenak Jul 2015 #52
I addressed that misconception in post 51 Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #60
Oh, so he's not fixing so let's do absolutely nothing. White people have no fault in racism. bravenak Jul 2015 #62
That's no requirement Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #76
Are you done ranting at me about that black man yet? bravenak Jul 2015 #77
Sure Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #78
ok, let me stop you here DonCoquixote Jul 2015 #82
Just a hint for ya... M0rpheus Jul 2015 #46
Your culturally provinical definition is limited in scope Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #51
We are NOT in South America!!!! bravenak Jul 2015 #54
We are on planet Earth Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #61
We are discussing AMERICA, not the WORLD. bravenak Jul 2015 #64
I see no such stipulation Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #79
I posted the op, and it never once mentions any place not in America. It is about AMERICAN politics bravenak Jul 2015 #85
Sorry I didn't see this until I got called to jury, thank you for standing up to it.... marble falls Jul 2015 #90
Thank you. bravenak Jul 2015 #91
I don't alert on much, but I certainly would have on this one. I'm glad I got on the jury.... marble falls Jul 2015 #92
Thank you for that. bravenak Jul 2015 #93
Alas, I don't live in South America. M0rpheus Jul 2015 #59
mulatto is a very insulting term btw luvspeas Jul 2015 #55
"Obama is a mulatto" ? What century are you living in buddy where you get to make the call? bettyellen Jul 2015 #48
Even my grandma didn't say mulatto. bravenak Jul 2015 #53
Mulatto to me is an old slave owner term. This thread is making me ill. On that note... freshwest Jul 2015 #87
Nice kitties!!! bravenak Jul 2015 #88
Yes, this is a white problem that is spilling onto black people. It starts with whites working on it freshwest Jul 2015 #100
indeed. +1 bazillion luvspeas Jul 2015 #101
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